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I know she stepped in later but those games have never been high sellers. I meant more in the sense that with her gone I'm not sure there's really anyone left in a position to push for these niche projects. Honestly, with her and Tom (a huge Falcom fan in general) gone, I wouldn't be surprised if they don't tackle any more Falcom games. Not that there's much left, I guess. Zwei really seemed like they were scraping the bottom of the barrel.

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Yeah, I'm also getting Xanadu vibes here. Would be interesting if it turns out to be a completely new title, though. Last I heard, Kondo said they wanted Tokyo Xanadu to become their third main IP along with Ys and Trails. So with Ys VIII and Sen IV both out, I just kind of assumed Tokyo Xanadu 2 was probably next.

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Where's Adol? Where's my boi!?

inb4 he's not playable

 

This Gothic theme is kind of new. I'm just curious where this fits in the timeline and all since I never got the impression that something like this was around. There is the Romun (Roman) Empire after all. Not to mention that the other games are very Mediterranean. I think the closest it got to Gothic is Oath. Specifically Valestein Castle.

 

Anyhow, I'll look at it what's available some more later.


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https://www.falcom.co.jp/ys9/

Adol is indeed not the focus (like Origin)... and the more I look at it, the more I agree that it kind of feels like a different game but we'll see.

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I'm fine with a lesser focus on Adol, Origin is one of my favorites of the entire series and he wasn't in it. I expect he'll be in the game to some extent, though. Apparently fans weren't too crazy about his absence in Origin.

 

I'm really surprised they're already going ahead with Ys IX, though. I figured another Tokyo Xanadu or something new was gonna come first. I also expected the next Ys to be a remake of Ys V, so I was doubly wrong. I'm guessing with the next Kiseki being a few years away, they wanted their next project to be more of a safe bet.

 

Also, fuck everything. Kondo acknowledged NISA's fuck up but says the financial impact wasn't significant. Please be excited for Ys IX coming via NISA!!!

 

 

 Between this and XSEED having essentially lost and/or fired their main Falcom/Trails people, the future suddenly feels very bleak for western Falcom fans. :bun-cry:

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'There were many oversights by the people in charge due to how busy the company was at that time.'

Bullshit. NISA been doing this shit for FOREVER. My expectations were low yet they even blew the floor away and got close to Hell. Seriously, I gave them a chance. Even I went "Umm... wow." at the level of incompetence/malice they showed.

 

7 minutes ago, FLD said:

 Between this and XSEED having essentially lost and/or fired their main Falcom/Trails people, the future suddenly feels very bleak for western Falcom fans. 

Actually, I think we are in Hell.

 

I will (so should Falcom) only give NISA one more chance. I WANT THEM TO SURPRISE ME.

 

With that all said, I've been hearing troubling news about Falcom lately, mainly with regards to their music department. You know, a major part of what makes Falcom games so awesome. I think from Ys VIII onwards, most of the old people are gone. The new lead guy is apparently subpar but I need to play Ys VIII to really know. I think the Steam sale might have it at 20% but that is not low enough for me considering my large backlog.

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NISA and PS4 exclusivity. Lmao holy shit, Falcom really don't give a fuck and it's getting really hard for me not to feel the same way. I'm not expecting a quality localization nor am I expecting them to make any effort whatsoever to maintain consistency with previous titles. Even their vague mention of a "longer discussion" with Falcom about Crossbell just pisses me off.

 

I'm also wondering what the fuck XSEED are doing at this point. If they were simply outbid then that really sucks but with the recent firing of Hatsuu I'm honestly wondering if they even tried to get it. I actually kinda regret getting invested in this series now...

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Is it? I thought they had teased an announcement for today. There's been PR material released and everything so I don't think this is just some leak.

 

I'm also having a hard time coming up with any one person whose involvement could give me a change of heart here. Even within XSEED, the series changed hands quite a few times. Even if they somehow specifically hired the person(s?) who translated CSI and CSII, I don't expect they'll still have access to the series bible that was compiled at XSEED and it's kind of necessary here.

 

edit: Actually now that I think about it, they may have hired Jessica Chavez. She's been tweeting vaguely about being back to work and I saw some posts on ERA where people assumed she was back at XSEED. She worked on Tokyo Xanadu for Aksys and I was pretty okay with that translation. There were some weird decisions here and there but overall there certainly wasn't anything as distracting as a big hole.

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Yeah, that Kiseki Bible is a big unknown. Whoever works on CS3 and CS4 got to have something like it else it will be a MESS. I'm pretty sure it cannot go to NISA unless they somehow bought it to use. Consistency in translation is key. Ideally the people working on it know the games very well. I know of one who is looking for a job... 

 

Another thing is management which to me is the big sore spot with NISA. They will need to splurge on time and money on this. Make no mistake, CS3 will not be a huge money maker compared to the amount of work needed. 

 

As for the timing of the announcement, it was pose to be tomorrow but someone let it out early so NISA needed to respond. Eh. 

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Nah, like I said, we knew to expect an announcement from them today.

 

Happy 2019! It feels awesome greeting you in the new year, dood! What’s even greater is that we have a new title announcement coming up January 17th, with a follow-up panel at PAX South on the 18th at 11 AM CST in Falcon Theatre!

 

Now that the bad news has started to sink in, I'll wait to see if they release more details tomorrow. But damn, the more I think about it the more I realize that the scenario where I start feeling optimistic again is super fucking unrealistic lol. And even if they somehow got all the right people, it's still entirely possible that the main problem with NISA is at the management level...

 

Also, hire Durante to port the damn game to PC, you cowards! We're probably stuck with a NISA translation but that doesn't mean we have to suffer a NISA port.

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Well, shit.

 

 

It was pretty obvious she got fired (although it wasn't clear why) but I guess life finds a way!

 

I'm still super skeptical about this (especially given those tweets I posted above) but at least now they have someone on board that's actually going to care/obsess over every little details. Hopefully it's not just PR and they'll actually listen to her. The game is less than a year away, though, and apparently they've been on it for like a year at this point. It's obvious they've only recently brought Hatsuu on board, so I imagine there's limits to what she can accomplish here if the work they've already done is all garbage.

 

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Can't say I recognize the other names but that Ryan guy seems alright by me.

 

 

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I don't think there's any save transfer to CSIII, if that's what you're worried about. So if anything, CSIII would be the perfect time for a platform jump.

 

But yeah, they're calling it a PS4 exclusive but I'm assuming it'll come to PC at some point. I'm not sure why they're not announcing it now, though. I want to believe they learned something from their recent fuck ups and want to get it right this time, but even then there would be no reason not to announce it now and say its release window is TBA. Like, literally all they have to do is give Durante a call. If XSEED could afford him, then surely they can too. And at this point, announcing they have Durante porting the game is pretty much the last thing I need to fully give them the benefit of doubt.

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I might be playing on the PS4 just to avoid the likely port problems. The only reason I would wait is if Durante is hired as a freelancer like Hatsuu is. None of the bullshit one day consulting that happened with Ys 8.

 

I guess there is another reason to wait is to see the translation first. I don't think 9 months is enough for Hatsuu to do enough but I think having the other two (Kris and Ryan) will help since I assume they all worked together on the previous Cold Steel game. I'd be a little (as a courtesy) shocked if Kris and Ryan were recent hires to work on Cold Steel 3. If they were then shit will be fucked. 

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https://metacouncil.com/threads/i-co-founded-a-company-that-does-pc-ports-among-other-things.553/

Not directly related to Falcom games but... this is interesting. Durante has his own PC porting company now. Paperwork are all done and through.

 

It'd be great if this one company hires Durante's company to do a certain port. Kind of like how this one company hired some freelancer localization people who know there stuff. Then let these people do their thing. And since this one company almost certainly has Sen 4, just have these people do their thing on that title as well.

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