toxicitizen Posted January 20, 2020 Author Report Share Posted January 20, 2020 Well, I really hope you're right. I gave up hope of playing Crossbell before the end of Cold Steel a while back but I still really want to play them. Honestly, after fixing Ys VIII and seemingly doing a decent job on Cold Steel, if NISA ends up giving us Crossbell as well then they'll have won me over entirely at that point. As for Atelier, I know for a fact that Durante would love a crack at them because he's a huge Atelier fan and he's said as much. That would require KT giving a shit, though. IIRC he tried reaching out to them in the past and nothing ever came of it. The Sophie port was good enough for me, especially once they went back to it and fixed the 2D assets resolution issue. No idea about the rest of them cause there's too many to keep track of at this point. All I know is the remasters that just came out are supposed to be in pretty rough shape. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mal Posted January 31, 2020 Report Share Posted January 31, 2020 (edited) If I were a betting man, I say late 2021 or sometime 2022 for these two localizations. Translations would take the longest assuming the two games are basically the same on the back-end. I'll be playing the Geofront's Zero localization and the, from what I hear, okay fan translation of Ao. So it mostly won't be a problem for me to be ready for CS4 or Hajimari. I do hope for a Japanese break after Hajimari for everyone to more or less be on the same page. I do want Falcom to look back on Cold Steel to avoid what went wrong with it since it is, in my opinion, the weakest of the bunch. Things are for sure better in CS3 compared to CS1 and CS2 but it kind of hinges on the grand overall narrative or things laid out in previous games/settings. I will say that New Class VII is far better than most of Old Class VII in their first games. It's back to form of previous games (Sky and Crossbell). Old Class VII are pretty much two games slow burners to get up to speed. Someday I'll be able to research up on topics in these games to connect dots without fear of spoilers... there's so many layers that it's hard to keep track. I'll probably make another post doing a rough timeline and about any other connections I believe are important just to put them out in words. Hmm, I think things like this may encourage even a fan translation of vanilla Ao. I cannot confirm or deny if Juna was in the Crossbell games or not. Maybe she was just a named generic NPC prior that got upgraded? ^ That. She's basically an upgraded NPC so Juna wasn't there originally but so wasn't Towa during the trade conference. I also hear of other characters and situations not being fleshed out back in the Crossbell games. I guess this is one of the main problems of rounding out the details of a story as you go when games set in the same time period are made like a decade apart. I don't think Sky have this issue or at least I don't recall any introduced CS characters saying they were in Liberl during the games. Also not spoiler this one since it doesn't quite spoil anything. Edited January 31, 2020 by Mal Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toxicitizen Posted January 31, 2020 Author Report Share Posted January 31, 2020 I'm not getting my hopes up because the last time I did we got NISA. It now looks like that ultimately worked out for the better but things looked pretty damn grim for a while there. As for the change, all I can say is I have no issue with them making small changes or retcons to account for subsequent games. They couldn't possibly plan for every little detail over a decade so if they have the opportunity to go back and update a few things here and there, I don't really see the problem. Especially if it's a completely inconsequential aspect of the game like a random NPC. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mal Posted February 1, 2020 Report Share Posted February 1, 2020 Got to see how NISA handles the Crossbell games if they were to do it. Anyhow, the end of Chapter 3 makes you think. One scene was important enough to block recording from the PS4... It sort of blew my theory* apart. Even if it didn't, I just can't quite make out what's or where Falcom is taking the story*, both for Cold Steel and for Trails as a whole. Not sure if Crossbell would enlighten. * Spoiler I truly believe that Osborne was killed by Crow but revival is possible through the use of say a Sept-Terrion used in 3rd (basically produced a perfect mental image of a dead person) and mashing it with a homunculus (Millium and Altina are homunculi). You can basically revive the dead. Now I'm not so sure. As for the story... Spoiler I'm trying to reconcile ancient Zumeria, dragons, the Goddess/Adios and Sept-Terrions (Sky games) with entities from Cold Steel like the Witches, Gnomes and vampires (?) and Divine Knights among other things like the Black Records. Then there's Ouroboros and the Septian Church to consider... What's the connection? The Abyss seems to be a common link but I'm not sure how. I feel like I am missing stuff from Crossbell here. Like that information from there would act as a bridge... I think? There's also a common thread of the Orge power that Joshua, Kevin, Rean and McBurn shares. Not sure if there's someone from Crossbell that has it... Ugh. Sure wish I could research all the things mentioned in the spoilers. One thing I wish I have is a time line. With that said, we're probably going to be smacked with some major anime bullshit. So maybe I'm thinking a bit too much about all this... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mal Posted March 10, 2020 Report Share Posted March 10, 2020 (edited) I just might stop my CS3 run to do Zero and Ao. I finally got to the field exercise portion of Chapter 4 before I think shit really hit the fan. LET'S DO THIS! Speaking of CS3, the PC demo is out. Edited March 10, 2020 by Mal Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toxicitizen Posted March 10, 2020 Author Report Share Posted March 10, 2020 Don't know if I care to try the demo, tbh. I don't think I'll even be buying the game at launch. It's coming in just a couple weeks and I'm just not ready to jump into that kind of game. I still need to finish Witcher 3 Blood & Wine, which I haven't touched in a few weeks. I'm still not sure if I'll get RE3 at launch. I dunno, I just kinda don't want to spend money on games lately. At least, not full priced AAA kinda money. I did just buy all those Konami collections on Humble cause they were only 5 bucks a piece... I was tempted by that physical edition NISA has on their store. But it's 99.99 USD and I went to checkout just to get an idea of what shipping would be and it's another 50 USD lmao. So that's a big nope. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mal Posted March 11, 2020 Report Share Posted March 11, 2020 (edited) I won't be getting the PC release for a long while. If anything, I think the Switch version is a bit more tempting. Though better performance would be nice. The physical edition is nice but I don't think $99 plus space nice. I really want some figurines instead. As for Zero, I have downloaded the one I bought from DLSite a while back. I'm basically revving to go. For you, I'm doubtful DLSite or anywhere would do a surprise sale (I think I got it for like $10-15?) for a mod, especially with Falcom's blessing. Of course, I guess you could wait for a maybe official localization. Be funny if the Geofront release get hit with a letter to stop. Ao will have to be pirated, sadly, but I think there's a version without all the malware bullshit (straight from the Chinese release) on it floating around. English patched (Edited Guren TL leak) and ready to go. The drop in quality will be noticeable but eh. I'll cross this bridge when I get there. Edit: Found it and starts fine but I'm not going to poke around. Edited March 11, 2020 by Mal Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mal Posted April 1, 2020 Report Share Posted April 1, 2020 Ugh... Real? Of all days to announce this! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toxicitizen Posted April 1, 2020 Author Report Share Posted April 1, 2020 (edited) I don't see how it could be a joke, tbh. Everyone is expecting them to release it, doing a "prank" announcement would just piss people off and at this point they need all the goodwill they can get. Plus, given current circumstances, any kind of April's fool joke is kind of in bad taste. Good to see PC acknowledged right away this time. I'm tempted to get CSIII now that I've canceled my RE3 pre-order but I just can't quite pull the trigger. I need to do CSII NG+ anyway and I'm still hoping we get those Crossbell remasters. Plus I'm still kinda not feeling video games but maybe a long-ass JRPG is what I need to lose myself into right now. Kinda kicking myself for missing that launch week edition, though. Some of those bonuses are no longer available, I think... edit: Yeah, gonna go with real. Edited April 1, 2020 by FLD Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mal Posted April 1, 2020 Report Share Posted April 1, 2020 Guess it's time to accelerate my Crossbell playthrough so I can finish CS3 for CS4. Did we technically caught up with Japan? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toxicitizen Posted April 1, 2020 Author Report Share Posted April 1, 2020 I guess we technically are right now but not for long lol. Some quick googling tells me Zero Kai is coming later this month, Ao Kai in May and Hajimari is also set for this year. So we'll very soon be 3 games behind... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deanb Posted April 10, 2020 Report Share Posted April 10, 2020 Can I just say I love amidst a pandemic it's fab you two are keeping this thread going into 16 pages 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mal Posted April 23, 2020 Report Share Posted April 23, 2020 Haha, the fan patch/release managed to get better quality out of the assets than Falcom can with their upgrade. Falcom looks to have just done a simple upscale. No tweaking. Geofront version is the definitive version now. Also Hajimari is releasing in Japan on August 27th. So in about two years from then out West will be about even with Japan. Yeah, I'm including the fan localizations. Speaking of, Ao is not likely to happen with the Geofront team since there is no way to buy the Chinese PC port or at least any obvious ways. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toxicitizen Posted May 13, 2020 Author Report Share Posted May 13, 2020 Could be anything. Could be NISA (and by extension PH3) just got a few more games from Falcom... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mal Posted May 13, 2020 Report Share Posted May 13, 2020 Hmm, CS4 is this year and accounted for. Hajimari shouldn't take 3 years, hell, it could be here late next year (is this mid or long-term?). Ys IX should be within that same 1.5 year time frame. I also don't think the remasters of the Crossbell games is going to push 3 years... 2.5 maybe if it's not a priority. The whole Kiseki series is taking a break from what I recall. Like years break. Could fit in the end of the 3 years but... Maybe Falcom got the stick out of their asses and will begin simultaneous worldwide release starting for games after Hajimari and Ys IX. Test it out with say Ys X and whatever project Falcom has. Fits with mid- to long-term things. Honestly, it for sure could be non-Falcom related. Only big series I can think of is Persona on PC. Outside of Persona, I don't recall any other JRPG or Japanese series that's highly lacking and sought-after on PC. Not sure if it's mid- to long-term though. Feel like it all can be machined gunned out. Guess we'll wait and see. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toxicitizen Posted May 13, 2020 Author Report Share Posted May 13, 2020 (edited) Don't the Crossbell games have fairly long scripts? If it's all being done by the same crew then I could see Hajimari + Crossbell taking a few years. Also, unless I missed the announcement (entirely possible, I've been pretty checked out on gaming the past few weeks) I don't think Ys IX has been confirmed for an english release yet. Anything non-Falcom, your guess is as good as mine. Basically anyone could've hired PH3. I'm not getting my hopes up for Persona, though. I've honestly given up on that. Edited May 13, 2020 by FLD Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toxicitizen Posted June 10, 2020 Author Report Share Posted June 10, 2020 (edited) Geofront announced they're doing Ao no Kiseki! They claim editing is at 75%. Unless I'm misunderstanding what that means, then I guess they game is already translated?? They must've been working on it in parallel to Zero, holy shit. Looks like it's now NISA's time to have their lunch eaten lmao. I don't think Ao has a proper PC version, though. IIRC, there's only the chinese one that has crippling online DRM essentially rendering it unplayable. Wonder how that'll work. Edited June 10, 2020 by FLD 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mal Posted June 10, 2020 Report Share Posted June 10, 2020 The PC version from China can be made safe. There is already one prepatch (with Flame edit) and ready to go. From reading the blog post, they will be using the original Guren translation, which is the same thing they did with Zero. The biggest thing though is that they found a way(s) to legally buy the PC version. That was THE hold up a few months back. I can't believe they found a way but I guess the main issue was that going through Chinese sites is a whole other ballgame than going through Japanese sites which all the translators could do. Localization wise, the playbook is in place so things can go faster. Hard part will be probably the coding backend. While people have played around with it, who knows how the port was put together. Ribose got her (I think I got Ribose gender right) work cut out for her. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toxicitizen Posted June 23, 2020 Author Report Share Posted June 23, 2020 (edited) Ys IX: Monstrum Nox announced for the West for PS4, PC and Switch! Steam store page mentions PH3, so we can safely expect a stellar port! Man, it's good to once more not have to worry about this shit. Edited June 23, 2020 by FLD 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mal Posted June 30, 2020 Report Share Posted June 30, 2020 https://geofront.esterior.net/2020/06/30/trails-to-azure-now-available-to-purchase-via-paypal-on-joyolands-website/ We crashed Joyolands' website but more importantly, Geofront got a fan to ask Joyolands to implement a PayPal option on their website thus unlocking it for people outside of China to buy. That was the key to all this. At the moment, you can buy it (it's like $7) but of course don't install it just yet. It still has the DRM though I feel an installer with a patch maybe in the works. Unsure if it'll be the same as the one on the Flame edit or it'll be their own home brew solution if Geofront want to avoid using something they don't understand. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mal Posted July 1, 2020 Report Share Posted July 1, 2020 (edited) FINALLY A FALCOM FIGURINE I WANT WAS IT SO HARD!? Make more you cowards! Edited July 1, 2020 by Mal Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mal Posted July 14, 2020 Report Share Posted July 14, 2020 Cold Steel IV PC/Switch Spring 2021, about six months sooner than I'd expect. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toxicitizen Posted July 15, 2020 Author Report Share Posted July 15, 2020 Geez, slow down. I haven't even bought CSIII yet! Hopefully, we'll get confirmation on Crossbell being officially localized soon because that would make it easier to hold off. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toxicitizen Posted November 18, 2020 Author Report Share Posted November 18, 2020 Crossbell coming to Steam but... They also have pages up for all the Sen games, the first two being the KAI versions. As far as I can tell, none of them have the english loc. Just Chinese and Korean. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheMightyEthan Posted November 18, 2020 Report Share Posted November 18, 2020 At least on PC they can be easily modded with fan translations. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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