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Yes. The Grandmaster is a tough one to pin down so there has been so many crackpot theories but if Ouroboros' plans are coming to head then it makes sense to reveal the Grandmaster. I think I'll leave it at that. I have some unconfirmed details about the Grandmaster that are probably right and should be from CSII.

 

Campanella is a weird one. He's like the eyes and ears of the Grandmaster and his teleportation skills seems a cut above even the rest of Enforcers and maybe even the Anguist or however spell it. I'm not going to go look how to spell it since I got spoiled that way with Cold Steel. It's the group that contains Alba and that were present in the last door in 3rd. To be honest, I kind of forgotten about him during SC until he reappeared after Alba died. Like, wait... I haven't fought you yet!

 

As for Calvard... if I recall correctly, 3rd ending has Richard going off to Calvard to investigate something. It may have been a request from Cassius. Part of me thinks Richard will be MC in a Calvard arc or if not be in a very critical role. I also expect Zane/Zin and Kilika to be there. MC may also be a refugee (who gets mixed up with Richard) since it has been a major issue that been referred to since forever.

We got to be Bracers (Sky), police (Crossbell) and students/not-Bracers? (Cold Steel). A special investigation unit may be in order to speed things along.

I LOVE KISEKI

 

As for the spoiler that pissed me off. Think leitmotif. I haven't confirmed it but I believe it since it is such a Falcom thing to do. It may or may not be major though so whatever... I guess.

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6 minutes ago, Mal said:

We got to be Bracers (Sky), police (Crossbell) and students/not-Bracers? (Cold Steel)

 

Not a spoiler so I'm not gonna bother keeping it tagged. But I think it's more like Bracer > Police > Military. Apparently, early in planning stages the Cold Steel MC was intended to just be part of the military. I don't remember the exact reason why they ultimately didn't go with that but student from a military academy definitely keeps that idea in there. And the plot certainly has a strong military theme to it.

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https://www.rpgsite.net/feature/6532-trails-in-the-sky-the-3rd-s-unique-place-among-the-best-rpgs-of-the-year

 

This article puts why this series and any individual game in the Kiseki series so hard to judge, especially on a GOTY basis. What is said about 3rd can easily apply to any other game in the series.

 

And holy crap, 3rd was last year? That game got lost in the shuffle. 

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Yeah, it's kinda crazy. It got overshadowed not just by all the great games that came out this year but also by Cold Steel.

 

Speaking of which, it seems Cold Steel is selling somewhat steadily (even if a little slowly). It's up to ~35K owners now, which pretty much makes it the best selling Trails game since FC. SC took fucking forever to reach that level and Cold Steel looks to be on track to climb past it fairly soon. It's good to see a Trails game not bomb completely for once.

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Cold Steel is easier to get into for most people so it isn't surprising. Damn graphic whores. Then there is the aforementioned time commitment for even SC, let alone 3rd. Even for a JRPG, this series is niche.

 

On 12/26/2017 at 3:34 PM, FLD said:

Not a spoiler so I'm not gonna bother keeping it tagged. But I think it's more like Bracer > Police > Military. Apparently, early in planning stages the Cold Steel MC was intended to just be part of the military. I don't remember the exact reason why they ultimately didn't go with that but student from a military academy definitely keeps that idea in there. And the plot certainly has a strong military theme to it.

I went with student/not-Bracers because it is essentially what you were doing in the game. As for why it wasn't pure military, I would hazard that Bracer ideals just don't mix with the military. You only have to look back on the Sky games for that in the relatively laid back country of Liberl. Bracers also don't generally mix well with the current Erebonian politics.

Of course it can be as simple as a school setting sells. :bun-dunno:

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I think it'll just be Ys VIII news. By then it'll be what, a six months delay?  I think we waited long enough.

 

On the irrational side though... what if they somehow got the Crossbell games to prove themselves? Like sure CS3 and CS4 has better possibility but, damn man, the majority of the core fanbase would flip out if that happened. The Crossbell games would piss us off but it's not "stealing XSEED's lunch" level of pissed off.

Like man, the Ys VIII announcement was bad enough but a Cold Steel would set us on fire.

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I think it's around the time they usually announce their slate of games for the year, so it probably won't just be Ys VIII news. But yeah, if they don't at least announce a release date for the reloc/PC port then holy lol.

 

I'd be surprised if anyone but XSEED ever tries to tackle Crossbell in an official capacity, though. They look just like the Sky trilogy and those graphics are apparently a though sell for a lot of people. At least Cold Steel's more "modern" graphics give it a little more appeal, especially CSIII. But man, to be perfectly honest, if this actually happens I'll mostly be disappointed that Falcom could be this fucking stupid after the Ys VIII debacle.

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So apparently there's been some Japanese announcement that Falcom and NISA are doing more together. For fuck's sake, no...

 

Ys VIII is apparently coming to Switch, so hopefully it's nothing more than just ports of existing games. That's probably wishful thinking, though. :(

 

edit: Sounds like someone mistranslated something and jumped the gun, all hope is not lost!

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XSEED put up a teaser for some of their upcoming games like they used to do.

 

 

The first two were figured out back in December. First one's some shitty Otome game or whatever and the second one is the Senran Kagura remake. The third one was just found out to be this: 

 

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So, Ys: Memories of Celceta is likely getting a PC port this year! Man, it seemed like wishful thinking just a couple years ago but we'll finally have Cold Steel and all the Ys games on Steam soon. Kinda makes the whole NISA thing sting even more. :( Seriously, they better not get Cold Steel III...

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That NIS/Nisa thing is just too big to ignore... All the fan communities are going to be a dumpster fire once and if it is confirmed. It won't be pretty. I might have some really choice words with NIS/NISA and Falcom if they get it. 

 

I would be fine with NISA ports/localizations if they were fine but Ys 8 is really all you need to see that is unlikely. If they can't manage Ys 8 then how the fuck are they going to manage CS3 and CS4? They lied through their teeth with Ys 8 up till launch day. If they cared so much then why the initial port and localization quality? Oh, should I be happy that they decided to hold off on the PC release and redo the localization? After the blatant lies? Piss off. 

 

God this whole thing piss me off. And look, no mention of XSEED until now. I'm laser focused on what NISA has done. 

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Can Falcom at least let XSEED localize it? NISA can do the rest. I'm sure Durante will be happy to lend a hand. Just give us a quality product. It is all I ask for. 

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So, I have no idea where people are hearing this. Probably some less public channels where people that got in the beta are talking, I'm assuming. But apparently Ys VIII still runs like dog shit. Take this with some salt for now, obviously, but if true then holy shit. What a fucking joke lol. If it turns out to be true, then I sincerely hope the game bombs and they get hit hard by user reviews. I feel kinda bad for thinking this but honestly, anything that prevents them from ever working with Falcom again is a good thing.

 

The weird thing is I was under the impression that they had reached out to Durante months ago and that although he hadn't worked on the game at length or anything (no doubt super busy with Cold Steel), he had significantly improved performance. Now I'm wondering if I'm misremembering or if I misunderstood something he posted...

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Yeah, I've been hearing about the poor port for a few days already. I really need some details like is it running poorly period or is it running poorly for the hardware?

 

I do recall that Durante was brought on as a consultant (it's on one of the NISA blogs I think) but if the main porting team don't listen to him or don't know how to implement his suggestions then it's all moot. I guess I'll wait for a large discount... This year already have enough games lined up that I can safely ignore Ys VIII which is a shame because I've heard it is a fantastic game. Something something voting with your wallet.

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As the PC version of the game was originally envisioned as a port, we avoided touching the core programming as much as possible and focused on PC performance optimization. However, in light of the feedback of those who have participated in the second beta test, we have concluded that we cannot avoid modifying the core programming.
 

What is a port?

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38 minutes ago, Ultra TCP said:

Yikes. Wasn't there another NIS PC port that also got delayed super last minute last year?

 

You might actually be thinking of this one lol. This is the second time they delay it, it was originally supposed to come out in September. The first time they delayed it like literally the day before launch. This time it was like a week after announcing the new release date. It's the very definition of a shit show. At the very least, I hope this time they learned to have their fucking closed beta BEFORE announcing the release date.

 

It's super fucking petty of me, but now I kinda hope they'll be equally inept at porting it to Switch. The Switch worship on the internet is kind of insufferable lately and it's pretty much guaranteed to cause even more of a backlash. :laugh:

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