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I played Monster Hunter 4 on the 3DS.  It had some pretty good things going for it, but also some infuriating things as well.  The combat is structured in such a way that you gotta learn the flow of your weapons kind of like an MMO character's skills, which is cool, but the game is already damn hard and sometimes it feels like it goes out of its way to make things unnecessarily harder.  Healing potions, for example.  Why in the name of all that is holy does your character have to stop and pose every time he drinks a potion?  I can understand needing enough time to drink the potion without getting hit.  That makes sense.  But stopping to pose?  You're in the middle of a fight, you idiot!  Get your head in the game!

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On 6/11/2017 at 0:59 PM, TheMightyEthan said:

I basically agree with Jack.

I do want to add that to me A Way Out looked cool, but coop-only is almost a dealbreaker for me.  I don't want to have to coordinate with other people to play my game's campaign, and I don't want to have to rely on randos from the internet for what appears to be a heavily story-based game like that.  I love it when games offer coop, but I don't want them to require it.

I think it's really admirable actually. I'm someone who loves playing games locally, and whilst I get that it totally sucks if that's not a possibility, I really like the idea of them building a game from the ground up that can't be played solo. 

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Prime 4
Pokemon on the Switch
An actual Metroid on the 3DS that isn't spinoff bullshit

They don't have actual footage for the first two yet but weren't people just saying that you like to know you have something to look forward to rather than having a conference with no surprises at all?  The fact these games even exist is fantastic news.

My E3 ranking goes like this:

Nintendo
Sony
Devolver
Ubisoft
Microsoft
 

PC show

 

 

EA

 

 

 

 

 

Bethesda

Yeah, I'm putting Bethesda below EA.  EA was shit, but at least they aren't deliberately making the industry worse.  Bethesda's constant Skyrim shilling, paid mods, and the fact they expect people to actually pay 60 dollars all over again for Fallout 4 VR kind of make me want them to fail as a company.  They haven't even started on Elder Scrolls VI, if rumor is to be believed, and I believe it.  Wolfenstein II was not enough for me to forgive all the other bullshit.

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5 minutes ago, Mister Jack said:

They don't have actual footage for the first two yet but weren't people just saying that you like to know you have something to look forward to rather than having a conference with no surprises at all?  The fact these games even exist is fantastic news.

13 hours ago, FLD said:

If they have something that's ready to be shown, they should show it regardless of how far off the actual game is. Just don't go full retard and start showing concept art and tech demos like EA and Square-Enix did last year.

Those "Now in development!!" announcements are exactly what I was talking about when I said don't go full retard. It just reeks of desperation. The Pokémon Switch announcement I can kinda get since people acted like complete nutjobs over the Ultra Sun/Moon thing. That was probably just to appease the crazies.

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I don't really see the problem with doing "Now in development" announcements if they're brief, like the Metroid and Pokemon ones were.  They just said "Hey, we're working on it" and moved on.  They didn't waste a bunch of time talking to developers behind the scenes who went on about how excited they are to be working on it like EA did that one year.  That's something I can definitely understand not liking.

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1 minute ago, Mister Jack said:

I don't really see the problem with doing "Now in development" announcements if they're brief, like the Metroid and Pokemon ones were.  They just said "Hey, we're working on it" and moved on.  They didn't waste a bunch of time talking to developers behind the scenes who went on about how excited they are to be working on it like EA did that one year.  That's something I can definitely understand not liking.

Yeah that's the big difference. It smelled like a "ok we're doing this stuff you want now shut up please". 

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Yeah, I guess. I just think that having literally nothing to show is pretty much the one scenario where you're definitely announcing too early. I'm not gonna give them a pat on the back for showing a fucking logo and having entered pre-production on something people have been asking about for like a decade. 

Anyway, don't really feel like ranking the conferences because most of them fell into "good, not great" for me. Except for EA, they were trash as usual. A+ for consistency, guys! The highlights for me were:

The Evil Within 2
XCOM 2 expansion
Wolfenstein II
Metro Exodus
Griftlands (new Klei game)
 

So, I guess Bethesda and PC Gaming Show technically win.

Btw, I'm probably missing something obvious but how do you guys do line breaks without a full line skip? Since the forum update, whenever I hit enter it skips a line and goes to a new paragraph. I had to copy paste Ethan's post to not have my list take double the amount of vertical space.

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