deanb Posted July 14, 2013 Report Share Posted July 14, 2013 Oh you want more? Reveal hidden contents It was implied there needed to be a strong link to Drift, such as brothers or father and son. However by the end they're just able to mash pilots together no bother. Especially Marshal and cocky Australian. Whatever was the point of the wall, why even mention it when within the space of 5 minutes it's set up as a plot element then brushed aside, both figuratively and literally. If Kuji are cloned, how was one of them pregnant? What the hell is a "digital" reactor compared to the nuclear reactor on Gipsy? And how would being a nuclear reactor still protect it from an EMP, also with the base down too how was Gypsy initiated and launched? The lass completely and utterly fucked up a test mission, nearly killing most folks in the base, yet they still (despite having a dozen+ alternative candidates) send her out for the real and very critical mission. The Category 5 wasn't codenamed Godzilla. None of them were. What the fuck. They just didn't bother me as much as the one I highlighted. I guess because that was at the end and harder to be brushed away by the films continuing action. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Waldorf and Statler Posted July 15, 2013 Report Share Posted July 15, 2013 Reveal hidden contents 1. The explanation of Cocky australian and Idris was good enough for me, Maybe Idris' whole thing of being able to pilot one by himself played into his bringing no mental conflicts whatsoever. Nobody else was paired left and right, Charlie was gonna be paired with people he wasn't as compatible with as others. The jaeger would still work just not as effectively if they aren't completely compatible. 2. The Wall thing bothered me but it was never mentioned again. It was basically the set-up for the Jaegers doing their last hoorah before finances stop. I assume it was a commentary on the flip flopping nature of governments looking for the easy way out while still relatively saving face. Obviously the wall didn't work with stronger jaegers, but they were sent to Japan to stop the Kaiju from going anywhere else. 3. Maybe they're cloned but as far as I know clones don't have defective reproductive organs. Who are we to say it didn't get freaky before going there? 4. The digital/nuclear thing bothered me but I assumed the EMP wave didn't fry the electronics as much as the power source/battery. Hence why everything else didn't necessarily stop working all together. 5. The "lass" and Charlie were sent after the Russians and the three japanese brothers got fucked. Idris knew she was capable, he was just overprotective. Even if she did almost fuck up the base they were on a number crunch and these two were super compatible. Not to mention you choose your partner, and they were desperate. 6. I agree? I understand some of your complaints but a couple seem a bit nitpicky. It wasn't by any means a perfect story but gaping plot holes? I didn't see much of that. Maybe smaller ones that bothered me like the wall. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deanb Posted July 15, 2013 Report Share Posted July 15, 2013 They're only nitpicky because hotheart asked for nitpicky. As I said in the last comment the only one that majorly got to me was the end part. Partly because it was super cliche (heck a most of the film was). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
danielpholt Posted July 15, 2013 Report Share Posted July 15, 2013 (edited) Just got out about an hour ago and all i can say it WOW. I went in expecting to love the sh*t out of this film, and it didn't disappoint I'm not saying its the best film ever made, because its not; but it did exactly what i wanted it to do. Sure the characters are a little one-note, and i think the second act suffers a little from being overlong; but all in all i loved everything on show. Its the first film in a very long time whereby i've left the theatre in a more excited mood than i entered. Reveal hidden contents My only niggle is with the way the Russian and Chinese team's are treated. We hear so much about their awesome record and how they're incredible warriors...and they're basically outmatched inside 3 minutes of their first on screen challenge. Sure i'm sure timing was a factor in that decision; but i still would have liked to have seen more of those two; especially the Chinese and their unique fighting style. Also i think i uttered 'Holy Fuck' like 30 times in that theatre. Thankfully i was alone for 3 people sitting 9 rows below me. A visual feast that i won't forget in a long time. One of my favourites; and probably my favourite new film of the year (also my 125th). Edited July 15, 2013 by bigdanhero Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheMightyEthan Posted July 15, 2013 Report Share Posted July 15, 2013 Am I understanding you right that you've seen 125 new movies this year? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
danielpholt Posted July 15, 2013 Report Share Posted July 15, 2013 On 7/15/2013 at 12:51 PM, TheMightyEthan said: Am I understanding you right that you've seen 125 new movies this year? No. 125 films in total. I'd guess that mybe 80 are first watches. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Waldorf and Statler Posted July 15, 2013 Report Share Posted July 15, 2013 To your comment dan: Reveal hidden contents I think I blame it more on their records being largely against level 1-3 kaijus over really hard level 4-5. Remember, they were only really exploring and testing capabilities before, not going for a full-on murder spree. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
danielpholt Posted July 15, 2013 Report Share Posted July 15, 2013 On 7/15/2013 at 4:57 PM, Waldorf And Statler said: To your comment dan: Reveal hidden contents I think I blame it more on their records being largely against level 1-3 kaijus over really hard level 4-5. Remember, they were only really exploring and testing capabilities before, not going for a full-on murder spree. Reveal hidden contents I guess that makes sense. However i'd still liked to have seen more of them. I guess time constraints got in the way though. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Waldorf and Statler Posted July 15, 2013 Report Share Posted July 15, 2013 Time constraints kill so much character development and cool discussions for the sake of action. I mean I'm not gonna watch them again anytime soon but the LotR films are imho better wit the extra hour added to each. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
danielpholt Posted July 15, 2013 Report Share Posted July 15, 2013 On 7/15/2013 at 5:17 PM, Waldorf And Statler said: Time constraints kill so much character development and cool discussions for the sake of action. I mean I'm not gonna watch them again anytime soon but the LotR films are imho better wit the extra hour added to each. I don't think its in the regular cut; but those scenes with Boromir celebrating victory at Osgilliath are some of my favourite from that series. I think it added an important bit of character to Boromir that we didn't really get in the theatrical cut. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deanb Posted July 15, 2013 Report Share Posted July 15, 2013 Yeah those are extended cuts. With regards to Pacific Rim apparently the DVD/Blu-Ray release will see a fair chunk of stuff added back in, including the chinese/serbian teams development. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheMightyEthan Posted July 15, 2013 Report Share Posted July 15, 2013 I was disappointed Reveal hidden contents with how quickly those two teams were taken out, mainly because I wanted to see awesome 4-mechs-fighting-giant-monsters battles. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Waldorf and Statler Posted July 15, 2013 Report Share Posted July 15, 2013 I just loved the Russians/Serbians due to how stereotypical they looked. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Waldorf and Statler Posted July 15, 2013 Report Share Posted July 15, 2013 (edited) edited because Ethan Edited July 15, 2013 by Waldorf And Statler Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Waldorf and Statler Posted July 15, 2013 Report Share Posted July 15, 2013 nevermind I assumed it was your doing as a mod haha. The pacific rim thread change. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CorgiShinobi Posted July 16, 2013 Report Share Posted July 16, 2013 (edited) Just saw Pacific Rim, and it was pretty amazing. Obviously it has the summer blockbuster flaws, but most everything I can think of are nitpicks. You have to remember, the very notion of giant humaniod mecha is highly impractical and goes against a megaton of real world physics. If you ever get the chance, read the two page article in the latest Wired magazine. Hell, it would take so much more lift/power to lift a Jaeger than a handful of Chinook helicopters. I don't know where Wired got the specific heights, but supposedly the Kaiju and Jaegers are taller than other mecha and "kaiju" of other films. Either way, I thought when it came down to it, the movie explained itself enough to roll with a stand-alone original movie. I'm not sure you could truly make another Pacific Rim other than... Reveal hidden contents "The other dimension of planet stealers opened another worm hole decades later and they've got new Kaiju. Anyway, del Toro wanted to be super original (as far as the genre goes) so you're not going to see any references. I didn't mind how there was a time jumo because it filled you in on the intial attacks, the development of Jaegers, and so forth. Seeing the beginning would have been slow if you think about it. This movie drops you into the culture of a world use to giant mecha and giant monsters. The neuro-link stuff still bugged me like I thought it would, but I was able to tolerate it. They did mention how pilots could be linked up, but you would have to find highly compatible pilots to effectively fight. That's why... Reveal hidden contents There was a focus on brothers, father and son, and etc. Those are not the only pilots, but it helps because the memories pilots share would be easier if, well, you already shared memories. Stacker was that weird exception who explained that he knew Herc well so he could link with Chuck and also that he would be "blank" or whatever. I guess his illness was a benefit, or something, but you can't be picky with only two Jaegers and four pilots for your resistance. It also got to me when... Reveal hidden contents You get the two Jaegers, Crimson Typhoon and Cherno Alpha, getting told about their elite record, and yeah that get taken out once you see them fight. Sure you get some cool moments, but it absolutely sucks that they get taken out like that. Crimson Typhoon basically gets its pilot chamber damaged, and that's it. Cherno Alpha at least went down with more of a fight. Edited July 16, 2013 by Atomsk88 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strangelove Posted July 16, 2013 Report Share Posted July 16, 2013 Glengarry Glen Ross. Infinitely quotable. It's brilliant. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheMightyEthan Posted July 16, 2013 Report Share Posted July 16, 2013 On 7/16/2013 at 3:22 AM, Atomsk88 said: Hell, it would take so much more lift/power to lift a Jaeger than a handful of Chinook helicopters. Yeah, at that part I actually leaned over to my brother in law and said "I think it would take a few more helicopters than that." I'm okay with fake physics in a giant monster/mech movie, as long as they don't look fake. There were three parts that screamed "fake" to me in that movie: the helicopter part, the part where they're swinging the cargo ship around and it's not just folding in half under the stress, and at one point a kaiju steps on a semi, which has a fraction of a second of resistance before getting crunched. That should have been like me stepping on a toilet paper roll. Obviously incredibly minor problems overall, but each time it pulled me out of my suspension of disbelief. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CorgiShinobi Posted July 16, 2013 Report Share Posted July 16, 2013 (edited) I was okay with the boat sword in the trailers, but yeah, they use the boat as a sword for (I think) three good hits. I thought to myself that maybe you could get away with a single hit, but that the boat would be broken into pieces afterwards. Another little thing was how, though the pilots are neuro-linked and should be in each other's head, Mako brings attention to Raleigh that Gypsy Danger has a sword now. It's something that works, or is literally normal, 99.99% of the time because, well, how many other action movies do you have where the partners are sharing brain power? Edited July 16, 2013 by Atomsk88 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hot Heart Posted July 16, 2013 Report Share Posted July 16, 2013 Haha. I like that we have all this Pacific Rim talk and then in the middle, quite the opposite sort of film with Glengarry Glen Ross. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
danielpholt Posted July 17, 2013 Report Share Posted July 17, 2013 Glengarry Glen Ross is also brilliant. Maybe its my just friends, but no on i ask has ever heard of it. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thursday Next Posted July 18, 2013 Report Share Posted July 18, 2013 (edited) Glengarry Glen Ross: Great film. The number of people who don't get the Ol' Gill reference in the Simpsons must be staggering. Pacific Rim: Was a decent summer blockbuster, but didn't set my world on fire. Still a good film, but I hoped it would be more. Edited July 18, 2013 by Thursday Next Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hot Heart Posted July 19, 2013 Report Share Posted July 19, 2013 The World's End. Did the 'Cornetto Trilogy' in an evening so saw a midnight screening of this. Can't say too much without spoiling it (and the trailers ruined a large part of it). Obviously, its style is similar to Hot Fuzz and Shaun of the Dead, except it's not as all-out funny as the former and never really as dark as the latter. If you're used to the films, you'll be able to spot the bits of foreshadowing (and the relevance of the pub names), though I don't think it was as subtle or prevalent as it was in the other two. It actually has some decent drama and Pegg does well as a bit of a dickhead while just about remaining sympathetic. Reveal hidden contents Towards the end it all goes a bit...Mass Effect 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mister Jack Posted July 19, 2013 Report Share Posted July 19, 2013 Oh shit, that movie is out?! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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