Hot Heart Posted May 6, 2012 Report Share Posted May 6, 2012 I couldn't pick between them... ...but with the Loki bit, I love how he actually pauses for a second to glance at Loki and then continues smashing him about. Hilarious little touch. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thorgi Duke of Frisbee Posted May 6, 2012 Report Share Posted May 6, 2012 (edited) My favorite joke was the whole Galaga bit. As for the movie itself, I thought it was just OK. As a comic book movie, it's one of the best that I've seen. However, I couldn't see it as anything more than supreme popcorn fluff. Edited May 6, 2012 by DukeOfPwn Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deanb Posted May 6, 2012 Report Share Posted May 6, 2012 Yeah, what's the significance behind the Galaga bit? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thorgi Duke of Frisbee Posted May 6, 2012 Report Share Posted May 6, 2012 Yeah, what's the significance behind the Galaga bit? No real significance, just a clever joke the writers threw in. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Waldorf and Statler Posted May 6, 2012 Report Share Posted May 6, 2012 The difference between the Marvel movies and the Nolan Dark Knight films is that the Marvel movies are entertaining as popcorn blockbusters. The Nolan Batman films on the other hand are movies that are actually considered for Oscars. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strangelove Posted May 6, 2012 Report Share Posted May 6, 2012 (edited) Oscars are only given to sad dark shit. That's the Oscar's flaw. They give it to artsy depressing films or happy musicals. Usually films that try to "say" something. that have some kind of message. The Batman movies are easy qualifiers. Theyre MADE to be Oscar films. Im sure thats not what Nolan intends, thats just the way Batman is. In that same sense, I dont see Batman Begins being better than the first Iron Man. I think theyre both equal except one is dark and disturbing and the other one isnt. Otherwise Iron Man has a great performance by Robert Downey Jr. and Jeff Bridges. Downey especially, he is fantastic. He deserves an Oscar for his portrayal, but he would never get one. He didnt. Personally, good film is acting, writing, presentation, and music. Iron Man had that. Spiderman 2 had that too. People's viewpoints on art is very narrow. Especially in film. Sadness seems to prevail. People can play the Oscars committee like a fiddle if they choose to. Making old white people cry = shooting fish in a barrel. Edited May 6, 2012 by Strangelove Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Waldorf and Statler Posted May 6, 2012 Report Share Posted May 6, 2012 People DO chose to play the Oscars committee, look at every oretentious british movie. Doesn't mean Nolan does it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P4: Gritty Reboot Posted May 6, 2012 Report Share Posted May 6, 2012 As for the movie itself, I thought it was just OK. As a comic book movie, it's one of the best that I've seen. However, I couldn't see it as anything more than supreme popcorn fluff. I haven't seen the movie yet, but isn't that all that the posters/trailers/advertising led us to believe it would be? I don't know that anyone was expecting more. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hot Heart Posted May 6, 2012 Report Share Posted May 6, 2012 Well-written and directed popcorn fluff. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Waldorf and Statler Posted May 7, 2012 Report Share Posted May 7, 2012 Yeah give credit where credit is due. It's characters are well written for what they are. I mean I wasn't the biggest fan of Hulk thanks to its latest films, but this one did Bruce Banner just right. Oh and btw, any fears of Mark Ruffalo not reprising his roles can now be calmed as he signed a deal with Marvel to play the green menace for 6 movies. Not necessarily 6 Hulk movies but I would assume this means a "Ruffalo Hulk 2" film, another Avengers, "Ruffalo Hulk 3", "Avengers 3" and so on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheRevanchist Posted May 7, 2012 Report Share Posted May 7, 2012 I went today to see if maybe one showing of The Avengers wasn't packed like sardines. Nope. So, I watched The Pirates! Band of Misfits (3D). Good viewing! The 3D was blended well into the movie. The premise is fun and is not too serious or overly dark for the very young crowd. I won't ruin it, for those who have not seen it, but love Wallace And Gromit. Well worth a watch. And, the best part, was a teaser for Despicable Me 2! I love the first one, so I'm hyped up. . . for 2013. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheMightyEthan Posted May 7, 2012 Report Share Posted May 7, 2012 I saw the Avengers and it was good, but it wasn't super amazing like everyone else seems to think. I don't regret seeing it, but I still have no desire to see it again. I think to some extent it was a victim of its own hype for me. One thing I was wondering the whole time: Where was War Machine? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P4: Gritty Reboot Posted May 7, 2012 Report Share Posted May 7, 2012 Something similar may have ruined The Dark Knight for me. I just saw it about a year ago for the first time, and after hearing how it was the greatest superhero movie of all time for years, it simply didn't live up to the hype. I didn't like Batman Begins on first viewing either though, so I may need to watch it again with a different mindset. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Waldorf and Statler Posted May 7, 2012 Report Share Posted May 7, 2012 Uhm yes. Bias and mindsets are everything. I didn't watch the Nolan Batman films as "the greatest superhero films of all time" but as "a really fucking good batman film". Being a Batman lover, I jizzed. I didn't watch the Avengers as "the other best superhero movie of all times". I saw it as "Joss Wheadon finally going mainstream" and I couldn't be happier for him. And Ethan War Machine isn't a member of the original Avengers and if you think about it they never really had much of a chance to go recruit more superheroes in the universe. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hot Heart Posted May 7, 2012 Report Share Posted May 7, 2012 I wasn't wowed by Batman Begins on my first viewing but, watching it afterwards, I got a sense of the layers to the script and that made me appreciate it a bit more. Considering my background, I guess I always tend to like things in a more analytical sense than a 'pure' one. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strangelove Posted May 7, 2012 Report Share Posted May 7, 2012 Batman Begins gets better for me every time I see it, but TDK gets worse. I dunno. Maybe it's just me. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P4: Gritty Reboot Posted May 7, 2012 Report Share Posted May 7, 2012 BB definitely gets better every time. Maybe I'll do TDK this weekend or something to see if it gets worse Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yantelope V2 Posted May 7, 2012 Report Share Posted May 7, 2012 I also did not remember thinking BB was special the first time but I do enjoy it more with each time I watch it. Strange. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hot Heart Posted May 7, 2012 Report Share Posted May 7, 2012 The only thing I cannot stand about TDK, despite a few 'discrepancies' here and there, is the whole CSI/bullet-in-the-wall bit. That's just dumb, even if it has that Alfred line: "I'm not sure you made it loud enough, sir." I'm willing to ignore the other things. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SomTervo Posted May 7, 2012 Report Share Posted May 7, 2012 (edited) I hated the mobile phone augmented reality shit. In a film that was pretty grounded, that was just mental. I don't even see The Dark Knight as a great Batman film, certainly not a great superhero film. It's a great crime film. You know, like a crime thriller, like The Godfather or something like that. It's mostly about gangsters and the law and politics. Batman is basically a minor character. Batman Begins, however, is the best Batman movie ever created. I still don't think it's perfect, far from it, but it's the only movie to 'get' what the BMan is about. Edited May 7, 2012 by kenshi_ryden 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CorgiShinobi Posted May 7, 2012 Report Share Posted May 7, 2012 (edited) I'm going to be the odd duck here and say I find it hard to get through Batman Begins now. I've seen it about four times, but the whole "becoming Batman" bit always wears on me when watching it again. Normally I can only watch a movie twice, once in the theater and once at home. With The Dark Knight, I have yet to be uninterested at any moment. I'm guessing it's because in TDK Bruce has already been Batman for a while, but now is being pushed to his limits by the Joker. With Batman Begins, "Hmm, I need to make a better cowl" and the "I don't know what you mean" mind games Bruce tries to play on Morgan Freeman's character just for it to backfire because the dude's not an idiot. EDIT: And as much as I like the character of Scarecrow, the appeal of having his character in the film fades to where I'm waiting for that big reveal of how Ra's al Ghul is still alive. Edited May 7, 2012 by Atomsk88 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Waldorf and Statler Posted May 7, 2012 Report Share Posted May 7, 2012 hey guys Avengers discussion question Anybody else in here think Coulson is not dead? Not only were the cards not in his pocket, but Nick Fury needed to motivate the Avengers and has lied to them plenty of times before. In fact he could've easily lied here too Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheMightyEthan Posted May 7, 2012 Report Share Posted May 7, 2012 No way, he would never have allowed Fury to get his cards messy. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hot Heart Posted May 8, 2012 Report Share Posted May 8, 2012 "I don't know what you mean" mind games Bruce tries to play on Morgan Freeman's character just for it to backfire because the dude's not an idiot. I never got the sense he was playing mind games. It was always coy and knowing discussions between them, probably with an air of 'plausible deniability' thrown in. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thursday Next Posted May 8, 2012 Report Share Posted May 8, 2012 hey guys Avengers discussion question Anybody else in here think Coulson is not dead? Not only were the cards not in his pocket, but Nick Fury needed to motivate the Avengers and has lied to them plenty of times before. In fact he could've easily lied here too I was chatting to my buddy about the same thing. I think they left it open ended enough that a decent internet campaign could see him brought back, not sure how I would feel about that. I liked Coulson and was sad to see him die, but it seems wrong to do that and then take it back. It would mean watching Avengers Assemble in the future would be tainted with the knowledge that the pivotal unifying moment was a cheap trick, it would be like if Wash's death was faked in Serenity, that scene would lose all the impact of the senseless loss. I think the significance of the blood stained cards was that death feels more real when you have a prop and a mouldering corpse is inconvenient to transport and harder to throw on a table. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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