toxicitizen Posted May 16, 2013 Report Share Posted May 16, 2013 Two of my friends and I watched the entire 20th Century Boys trilogy over the past two days. It was so fucking good. The first one was the most captivating of the three because it sets up all the mystery and Urasawa is pretty much a master a crafting those but overall it was a great series. I think I still like Monster better, though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mister Jack Posted May 17, 2013 Report Share Posted May 17, 2013 On 5/16/2013 at 5:42 PM, Waldorf And Statler said: On 5/16/2013 at 12:44 PM, Thursday Next said: On 5/16/2013 at 8:21 AM, Waldorf And Statler said: Star Trek Into the Darkness Wow. Liked it better than the first. One particular dramatic scene was ruined by a single line for me that made me burst out into laughter, you'll see what I'm talking about when you watch it. What line? (I've seen it. It was ace). Maybe it's funnier for me because I've seen so many parodies and internet memes but Reveal hidden contents Reveal hidden contents Come on, though, someone had to say it. I would have been more upset if they didn't. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Waldorf and Statler Posted May 17, 2013 Report Share Posted May 17, 2013 My friends and I understood they had to, didn't make it less funny Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hot Heart Posted May 18, 2013 Report Share Posted May 18, 2013 Star Trek Into Darkness. This one, like Iron Man 3, just nudges itself over 'OK' (and for pretty much the same reasons). Which is pretty good, considering that I thought the first film was boring, and how most people feel about Anne Hathaway is how I feel about Chris Pine. It's got the usual high production values, good cast, etc. but is hamstrung by a big, dumb script and only gets by on the relentless pace and charm. Considering the many incarnations already, there's nothing inherently wrong with it being fairly 'un-Star Trek' and, as far as I can tell, it tries to do something a little different anyway. That said, hopefully, they do a bit more with the premise in future and hire smarter screenwriters. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CorgiShinobi Posted May 19, 2013 Report Share Posted May 19, 2013 (edited) Iron Man 3 It does have its issues, but I'm thinking the Internet has blown them out of proportion. I haven't looked at anyone's spoilers, so not sure what I would talk about. I mean, I feel like there are a few glaring flaws to some of the characters and scenes. I almost feel like the movie was designed to bank on Robert Downey Jr. and his portrayal of Tony Stark. Otherwise, you'll have to condense the "horrible" attributes of the film to make me realize what was so bad about this one. EDIT: Oh, and it feels very weird, after the Avengers have formed, to have only Iron Man and "Iron Patriot" involved in a fight against an American threat. Was kinda expecting another hero to pop in... Edited May 19, 2013 by Atomsk88 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Waldorf and Statler Posted May 19, 2013 Report Share Posted May 19, 2013 Yeah it's weird to not have Captain America fight an American threat, but I'm assuming that Hulk was busy doctoring, Thor was busy not giving a shit about earth unless it affects space in general and Captain American is probably busy with the winter soldier. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mister Jack Posted May 19, 2013 Report Share Posted May 19, 2013 Hawkeye and Black Widow were busy getting everyone else coffee. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Waldorf and Statler Posted May 19, 2013 Report Share Posted May 19, 2013 lol coffee is too much responsibility for them Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CorgiShinobi Posted May 19, 2013 Report Share Posted May 19, 2013 Alright, I've looked over some more criticism of the film, and I can understand some of the disappointment (maybe even frustration). Reveal hidden contents I was never a big Iron Man fan until the first movie, but even so I've never taken the time to understand his comic history, or whatever. I've always been a Spidey guy when it comes to Marvel. So the Mandarin has mostly been the archenemy of Iron Man, and while each iteration has had differences, he usually comes down to a martial artist with a scientific prowless who controls 10 rings of magic/alien tech. We have had references to the rings, namely the terrorist organization in the films called The Ten Rings. Instead we get a twist that Ben Kingsley's character isn't the Mandarin and instead Aldrich is, in a sense, the Mandarin. Truth be told, the name still serves as a proxy, and "the master" being the vice president. I can't say if I would be pissed, but I don't have the gall to tell others they should be pissed. By now, and I mean really, we ought to understand the Marvel movie universe is different. I could count the number of times this Marvel universe has pissed off "real" fans. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheMightyEthan Posted May 20, 2013 Report Share Posted May 20, 2013 Yeah, I am not a fan of the comics and as such it does not bother me, but if I were I can totally see how it would. That aside, I'm not going to claim the movie is perfect or anything (it's definitely not), but all the other "flaws" people have pointed out just don't phase me. It's not that I can refute them or anything, it's just that I don't care about them and can't really see why someone would. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Waldorf and Statler Posted May 20, 2013 Report Share Posted May 20, 2013 As someone who didn't give a crap about Iron Man until the films, this is better than the second and the first is hard to compare to because it practically revived superhero films and set forth the movement of Marvel films. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheMightyEthan Posted May 20, 2013 Report Share Posted May 20, 2013 On 5/20/2013 at 12:46 AM, Waldorf And Statler said: As someone who didn't give a crap about Iron Man until the films, this is better than the second and the first is hard to compare to I agree with this 100% Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Waldorf and Statler Posted May 20, 2013 Report Share Posted May 20, 2013 Oh we're butchering thoughts to find points we agree with now eh? On 5/20/2013 at 12:49 AM, TheMightyEthan said: with I agree with this 100% 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheMightyEthan Posted May 20, 2013 Report Share Posted May 20, 2013 The only point I don't agree with is that it revived superhero films, I would say the early 2000's X-Men and Spider-Man movies did that. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deanb Posted May 20, 2013 Report Share Posted May 20, 2013 Yeah, it made super hero movies super huge and massive, but X-Men would be the one that made superhero movies popular. Marvel would never have set out on a multi-film project as big and pricey as this without some initial signs it'd work out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thursday Next Posted May 21, 2013 Report Share Posted May 21, 2013 Isn't this a bit like the Wolfenstein / Doom argument. Or the Halo one. One of them was the pioneer. But really it's the scale and success of Iron Man that set them on the path to being the epic blockbusters they are today. Though if we're going to get real nit-picky. I'd say that Batman Begins is what really legitimised the superhero movie and brought it into the mainstream. Spiderman and Xmen were still regarded as kid / teenager films. Nolan's Batman made the whole genre grow up a bit. just my opinion of course. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheMightyEthan Posted May 21, 2013 Report Share Posted May 21, 2013 Yeah, my second point was that even if you want to ignore X-Men and Spider-Man, Batman Begins still came out 3 years before Iron Man. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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deanb Posted May 22, 2013 Report Share Posted May 22, 2013 The Marvel Avengers stuff is still in line with the "kiddy" of X-men/Spiderman. Nolans Batman would be the success of Kick Ass, First Class, Watchmen and likely Superman too. The "Serious" comic book films. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheMightyEthan Posted May 22, 2013 Report Share Posted May 22, 2013 How was First Class any more serious than X-Men/Spider-Man/Avengers? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strangelove Posted May 22, 2013 Report Share Posted May 22, 2013 (edited) First Class has all the Jew/Holocaust stuff in it. Seriously though, Id say about a third of the film is kiddy(showing off the C tier mutants) and 2/3 of the film is a lot more serious. Shit, most of it is drama. Theres only a handful of real action scenes. And i dont think Batman Begins was as successful as people think. Its my favorite of the trilogy, but it didnt set the world on fire. That was TDK. Id say TDK is the first superhero film people ever took seriously. Probably the first superhero movie no one was embarrassed to like. And financial success? Spiderman easily. Xmen 1 wasnt nearly as big as Spiderman 1. Spiderman set off spending shitloads of money on superhero movies. Then Id say Ironman 1 was the first movie to hire "great" actors to give superhero movies credibility. Normally id say batman Begins did it first, but I find it really hard to consider those movies superhero movies. Edited May 22, 2013 by Strangelove 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strangelove Posted May 25, 2013 Report Share Posted May 25, 2013 Iron Man 3. I liked it. Especially the twist. It was surprisingly and funny. It also made be glad I wasnt a comic book purist, or Id be pissed. Though I think those guys are losers. As much as I like dit though, I have 2 kind of big problems with it which are probably just my own- Reveal hidden contents They should just kill off War Machine. He is completely underutilized, though Im not sure I want to see more of him. Hes very uninteresting. Just have him die.I also thought the weird mixture of powers to give the villain were randomly absurd. Regeneration, super strength, super resistance to attacks, fire powers, including throwing fire out of his mouth. I though the mixture really lacked a theme. I really didnt like it. It felt like they picked up out randomly out of nowhere. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deanb Posted May 26, 2013 Report Share Posted May 26, 2013 Reveal hidden contents As mentioned already Extremis comes from a prior Iron Man arc called... Extremis. And those powers are pretty much on par apart from the explosions and also the users in IM3 not turning into a coccoon of scabs during the transformation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheMightyEthan Posted May 26, 2013 Report Share Posted May 26, 2013 Star Trek Into Darkness. Really good. I thought that line that Wally was talking about on the previous page really detracted from that scene though. Made me lol, but not in a good way. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toxicitizen Posted May 30, 2013 Report Share Posted May 30, 2013 (edited) Star Trek Into Darkness. Holy fuck, that was amazing. I'm gonna have to read a lot of reviews now because it seems to have had a mixed reception and I really can't understand why. My friends and I loved the hell out of it, although we're admittedly all pretty huge Trek nerds. I especially enjoyed Reveal hidden contents the switcheroo they pull at the end. They really didn't have a choice to use some of the same major beats but that was a nice way to keep it fun. Was also nice to get to see some Klingons. I'd seen the steel masks in a deleted scene from the first one but I'm glad at least one of them took it off. Hopefully, if we get a third one, they'll play a bigger part. As for the previously mentioned line, it did made me lol but in more of a giddy way. Didn't bother me at all but I guess it did kind of detract from the dramatic impact of the scene. Next up: Man of Steel. In the meantime, I think I'll go watch a bunch of TOS on Netflix. Edited May 30, 2013 by FLD Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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