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  1. 1. Should UK leave the EU

    • From UK: Should Stay
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    • From UK: Should Leave
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    • Outside of UK: Should Stay
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    • Outside of UK: Should Leave
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    • Outside of UK: None of my beeswax
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    • Left Leg In UK, Left Leg Out UK: Do the Okie-Kokie (that's what it's all about)
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Also note that the Coalition didn't raise tuition fees. They just allowed Universities to do so.

 

As for awesome opening ceremonies... let us not forget the amazing shows our favourite former colony put on:

 

 

Bra-flipping-vo.

 

Also, Dean, a more relevant protest (i.e. Students, fees, protests...) http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/education/2541075.stm

 

On balance, this Coalition is not so bad thus far. They seem to be dealing with the economy ok, time will tell on that one and personally I'm not really feeling the effects of the economic downturn (one of the benefits of having paid all those tuition fees I guess).

 

Fuel prices are a drag, but that's as much because the Opec cartel are fleecing the whole planet as it is because of fuel duty. I like the leadership of Clegg and Cameron, and I find Ed Miliband to be entirely unelectable (they should've gone with David) as Ed is pretty much a Union stooge and had no leadership presence.

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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_Kingdom_Alternative_Vote_referendum,_2011

 

I'm assuming most of you have gotten the poll card for this?

 

Thoughts?

 

I'm for it, but I don't know too much on it so maybe someone might provide reasons for sticking with the current "first past the post" system.

Certainly allows for much more granular method.

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http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-13047890

 

Some old biddy gets ragged on by our previous PM, makes a few headlines. Am I now supposed to care every time she makes a comment about or around a politician.

 

She asked if Clegg was happy with the governments decisions. He said that any government would have to make tough choices, she says "I've just been listening to you on the television, and I've listened to you on the radio, and that's just the same speech you gave an hour ago."

 

Why wasn't the headline "Old Woman Points out that Politician is Consistent in his Messaging"?

 

Still, maybe she has some sort of insight into the current situation...

 

"It's gone wrong," she said, "Let's face it, it's all gone wrong."

 

Great. Thanks for that. Any other pearls for us?

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Damn, I know loads of Uni folk who didn't get to vote because of that.

 

Up here in scotland we had the Scottish Parliament vote too, of course. It's brutal. We have one of the best voting systems- but we double it up on itself really arbitrarily and confusingly, which leads to lots of spoilt ballots and demands for recounts.

 

You have a constituency MSP- like the "Westminster" constituencies.

 

You have a "Regional" MSP. Or rather, 6 of them. There are 6 for each region, region's basically being the same as constituencies.

 

There are 6 regional list MSP's under the PR List system- and while this is good for representing the countries votes at Hollyrood, it means in every constituency there are basically 7 MSP's, one that everyone knows and hlods accountable, and 6 who are just faceless job titles that are basically not held accountable to anything. Messed up. Although the 6 List MSP's do bulk up for the empty seats in parliament, and make sure the % of people who vote for a party get that % of seats at Hollyrood.

 

I don't know why I'm explaining this as many probably know already.

 

Still, on the one hand I'm looking forward to the Tory's being raped- on the other hand I'm not looking forward to the stealth-Tory SNP (a bit harsh maybe) getting into power.

 

SNP aren't all that bad, but they are master politicians and Alex Salmond is a master rhetorician. He will win any argument by seeming genuine and throwing out random shit that makes the other parties look bad. The Scottish labour leader Iain Gray is a good guy, but faffs about in the public eye, the Lib Dem leader is a nice guy but a tool, and the Scottish Conservatives leader is actually great, Anabel Goldie.

 

 

What did everyone vote on AV? I nearly lost a friend today by arguing vehemently over it. I'm praying Yes comes through, but it probably won't.

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