Yantelope V2 Posted April 25, 2012 Report Share Posted April 25, 2012 Well, either you make it legal or the person doing heroin is a criminal because they're breaking the law. I suppose you could be really nice to him and pretend he's not a criminal but I'm not sure what the benefit of that is. I understand that chemical addiction is a genuine health issue and I'm not trying to downplay that but trying to remove the criminality of it seems somewhat unrelated. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheMightyEthan Posted April 25, 2012 Report Share Posted April 25, 2012 Something can be illegal without being a "crime". Basically the idea is that it's more effective to try to deal with it as a medical/psychological issue that requires treatment rather than trying to deal with it as a criminal issue that requires punishment. Dealers/traffickers/etc? Totally should be dealt with criminally. Users not so much. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deanb Posted April 25, 2012 Author Report Share Posted April 25, 2012 Yup. He did say obviously if they're stealing, then that should be treat as a crime. He even brings in alcoholism, and alcohol isn't legal, as something that should be treat with the same compassion as he'd want for drug addicts. Basically it would be similar to how you put some criminals in mental institutes instead. It's worth reinforcing here: Russell Brand was not touching upon the classification(does US have a classification system?), criminalization, legality etc etc of drug use. That was not the purpose of him being there. He's an actor/comedian, not a doctor/politician/barrister etc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheMightyEthan Posted April 25, 2012 Report Share Posted April 25, 2012 Yeah, we have a classification, and at a glance yours appears very similar. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thursday Next Posted April 25, 2012 Report Share Posted April 25, 2012 Haha massive respect for Brand. Witness is as good a term as any. MP: "You were arrested roughly 12 times?" Brand: "Yes, it was rough." I agree with the principal. Prostitutes, clients and drug users should not be pursued by the law, they are often in a vulnerable position and are being exploited (perhaps not clients of prostitutes... that's debatable). The people who provide the illegal activities, pimps and dealers are the ones that should be stopped. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deanb Posted April 30, 2012 Author Report Share Posted April 30, 2012 http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-17884897 Well this is...hmmm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheMightyEthan Posted April 30, 2012 Report Share Posted April 30, 2012 Shooters Hill seems like an appropriate place to station them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thursday Next Posted April 30, 2012 Report Share Posted April 30, 2012 I think it's cool. Though, wouldn't you want to be a little more secretive about exactly where you're going to put them? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheMightyEthan Posted April 30, 2012 Report Share Posted April 30, 2012 I think this one's public knowledge because it's a trial run, I'm sure the actual emplacements will be less advertised. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deanb Posted April 30, 2012 Author Report Share Posted April 30, 2012 They're SAM missiles on flats with a bunch of armed guards around them. I don't think they'll be too easy to conceal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thursday Next Posted April 30, 2012 Report Share Posted April 30, 2012 Yeah, but if you advertise where you'll be putting them months in advance it kinda makes them vulnerable to sabotage. Like Ethan says, maybe this is just a dry run and the real locations will be more under the radar, or maybe there will be like 20 sites, half of which are dummies... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheMightyEthan Posted April 30, 2012 Report Share Posted April 30, 2012 Well and there's a difference between trying to make it completely secret and just not advertising it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deanb Posted May 3, 2012 Author Report Share Posted May 3, 2012 I'll be honest I wasn't aware there was any voting today. (Though maybe it's not running in boro atm) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deanb Posted May 4, 2012 Author Report Share Posted May 4, 2012 https://twitter.com/...341496385183744 Daily Express forgetting it's not WWII anymore. In other news I hear there's floods down south. But there's also a drought. A lot of folks are confused. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deanb Posted May 4, 2012 Author Report Share Posted May 4, 2012 http://www.guardian....-votes-lib-dems (at least click this one, even if not in UK. Especially if your'e not UK) and http://www.guardian....nson-london-win and http://www.bbc.co.uk...litics-17270000 I've a feeling we'll be getting a labour government next general election (unless something big changes, though that something big could make it a sure fire thing too) edit wrt first link: zombie geiko: he's left wing, but it's pretty useless since he doesn't fly with them 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheFlyingGerbil Posted May 5, 2012 Report Share Posted May 5, 2012 We'll not get a Labour government if they don't get rid of Ed Miliband. He's about as popular as a dose of the clap. People voting in the local elections are happy to vote Labour as a vote against the coalition, but come a general election no one could seriously see Mister Ed running the country. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deanb Posted May 5, 2012 Author Report Share Posted May 5, 2012 Can we see anyone seriously running the country at this point? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheFlyingGerbil Posted May 5, 2012 Report Share Posted May 5, 2012 Well, I may be the only person left in the country who think Lib Dems would do a good job. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deanb Posted May 5, 2012 Author Report Share Posted May 5, 2012 I voted Lib Dem last time, but we ended up with Tory rule so I'm a bit wary. I'll see how it goes come general election, cos fuck not voting. Also I forgot to add in this earlier http://www.pcpro.co.uk/news/374479/pm-to-consider-porn-blocking-plans Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Connorrrr Posted May 5, 2012 Report Share Posted May 5, 2012 The liberal democrats lost all credibility when they entered into a coalition with the tories. I would have voted for them last time were I old enough but this time, I am old enough and I know better, as do a lot of people. Lib dems are all talk, no action and if they were in power they wouldn't be able to deliver on the promises they make. However that's all irrelevant because I'm convinced after becoming David Camerons bitch, the liberal democrats will never be in power (as if their chances weren't small enough already). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheFlyingGerbil Posted May 5, 2012 Report Share Posted May 5, 2012 I wouldn't agree they were all talk and no action. Labour now and Conservatives when they were in opposition all they'll ever say is that the Government plans were awful but would never actually give any alternatives but Lib Dens always seemed to have fully developed plans for what they'd do. What I don't get is why people are surprised that the coalition is making decisions that are not what the Lib Dems would choose. They're like 1/5 the size of the Conservatives so of course it is mostly Tory policy that is taken and somewhat mitigated by the Lib Dem presence. It would take a miracle for Lib Dems to get a majority Government. Remember how popular they were before the election? They were actually leading the polls but tjat simply doesn't matter in this country. The problem with general elections is that 90% of Labour/Conservative voters will not chaIt nge who they vote for regardless of what the parties actually do. Labour in particular is a completely different beast from when a lot of people started voting for them, there's whole generations of families that have voted the same way. It's quasi-religious. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnny Posted May 6, 2012 Report Share Posted May 6, 2012 That's how politics are everywhere. Up here in northern Sweden, everyone votes social democrats. Every election. No matter what. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deanb Posted May 6, 2012 Author Report Share Posted May 6, 2012 http://www.bbc.co.uk...merica-17970165 Argentina dicking about with Olympic adverts. Also the recent local election apparently destroyed the BNP, which is always nice to hear. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheMightyEthan Posted May 7, 2012 Report Share Posted May 7, 2012 Argentina wants the UK to negotiate on sovereignty, but the British government says it will not discuss the issue without the agreement of the Falkland islanders. That sounds like a reasonable position to take... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deanb Posted May 7, 2012 Author Report Share Posted May 7, 2012 That ellipsis implies some sarcasm. Whose stance is unreasonable? It has been a British island for 170+ years. The Falklanders don't want to be under Argentine rule, why'd you think a video of of an Argentine athlete running around the island had to be done in secret? Argentina invaded their island 30 years ago, so it's pretty understandable to not be very keen on them. Geographically it's off the coast of Argentina, politically and culturally it's off the coast of Wales. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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