deanb Posted November 5, 2012 Author Report Share Posted November 5, 2012 http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-20202005 Living Wage eh. Big news. I actually heard about it first on the local news as Newcastle City Council are one of the main adopters of it. I think this would largely affect those on part time jobs because it would help bring the wage closer to one a full time job on minimum wage would provide. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deanb Posted November 9, 2012 Author Report Share Posted November 9, 2012 http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-20251939 So an initially dick move today on This Morning by Phillip Schofield got trumped by the fact dick move was done to Cameron and he completely fucked up the response. There's a bit of bother in the news of late about paedophiles, especially high profile ones like Jimmy Saville and the rumoured "No 10 paedo ring". Well Schofield presented Cameron with a list of names of alleged paedophiles, which Cameron tactfully didn't look at and put down (no sarcasm, he did do right in that) then proceeds to say: There is a danger, if we're not careful, that this could turn into a sort of witch-hunt, particularly against people who are gay and I'm worried about the sort of thing you are doing right now - giving me a list of names that you've taken off the internet. Wait what, where did the gays suddenly come into this? WTF. My current thinking in discussion with housemate on the matter is that Cameron's brain was engaged into the gay marriage thing, since there has been a newly appointed Archbishop and Cameron's aim for gay marriage by 2015 clashes a bit with the church, so maybe he was expecting and prepared for questions on that and his brain just spieled out first thing to mind in the shock of what had just been thrown at him. Cos if you remove the "particularly against people who are gay and" it becomes a perfectly fine and dandy sentiment. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thursday Next Posted November 9, 2012 Report Share Posted November 9, 2012 I agree Dean. Politicians tend to answer the question they wanted/expected to get, rather than the one they were asked. He was obviously wanting/expecting to talk about gay marriage so that's the first place his brain went. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheMightyEthan Posted November 9, 2012 Report Share Posted November 9, 2012 (edited) I don't know about over there, but over here the stereotypical pedophile is a man who preys on young boys, and (again, over here) a lot of people have this idea that all gay men are pedophiles. So that might be where the gay comment came from. *Edit* - I think it's because the people who think that think of being gay as an immoral sexual perversion, and so I guess they figure if you like one immoral sexual perversion you must like them all, or something. Edited November 9, 2012 by TheMightyEthan 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thursday Next Posted November 9, 2012 Report Share Posted November 9, 2012 Boris Johnson is the best politician ever. http://www.guardian.co.uk/politics/video/2012/nov/01/boris-johnson-lefty-tossers-video Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hot Heart Posted November 9, 2012 Report Share Posted November 9, 2012 Yeah, I think Ethan covered the other possible angle. Not that it's necessarily a prejudice Cameron shares, but he is most likely aware of it. I know older people in this country share that view... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deanb Posted November 9, 2012 Author Report Share Posted November 9, 2012 See I've only heard of that as a US thing. Especially with the gay = immoral sexual perversion = paedophile line of thinking No one has questioned Savilles sexuality with all the allegations going around, in fact I can't think of it being the case in any paedophilia news, nor has anyone suggested gay folks, of which we have many out in the open, being paedophiles either. It's not even mentioned and I'd say most folks 'know' that Savilles victims are likely young(well old now) girls. About the only time gay + paedophile tends to crop up is with priests, and even then I don't think it's even raised they'd be gay, almost treat/presented as 'paedosexual' if such a thing existed. I guess maybe old people may have the opinion, but I doubt they'd be the ones leading a charge along twitter n such on a witch hunt of gay paedophiles. As I said, I've only seen gay = paedophile within US media. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hot Heart Posted November 9, 2012 Report Share Posted November 9, 2012 Guess it depends how many older people you know, but the priest stuff is usually the most prominent in people's minds (paedosexual is not a thing). Plus, it is exactly these people who are likely to go on a witch-hunt because they're the most misinformed, likely getting all their news and views from pap like This Morning. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deanb Posted November 9, 2012 Author Report Share Posted November 9, 2012 I know it's not a thing. Hence "if such a thing existed". And it's not This Morning that made the leap of logic, it was Cameron. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hot Heart Posted November 9, 2012 Report Share Posted November 9, 2012 The witch-hunt is not a leap of logic. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deanb Posted November 9, 2012 Author Report Share Posted November 9, 2012 A witch hunt isn't a leap of logic, sure. I've already moaned plenty times on twitter for folks jumping the gun of late, including with Saville. A witch hunt on gays is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deanb Posted November 11, 2012 Author Report Share Posted November 11, 2012 Okay someone fill me in with regards to the whole BBC Newsnight thing. I've got bits n bobs from some places, defiently the result, but I don't quite understand what the fuse was. As best I can tell it's the opposite of the Newsnight issue a month or so back where they didn't report about a potential paedophile, and now they're in bother for reporting on a potential paedophile. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deanb Posted November 15, 2012 Author Report Share Posted November 15, 2012 http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-20325001 So doctors have gotten together to form a new political party due to a dislike of the increasing privatisation of the NHS. I doubt it has much, if any, chance of actually gaining any seats but it'll likely do well to raise awareness and weaken current MPs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deanb Posted November 17, 2012 Author Report Share Posted November 17, 2012 http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-20374139 I was only meant to be joking the other week when I said "Now we've all stayed up to watch the US elections whose doing the PCC one". Fuck 15% turnout. To be honest I didn't vote (should maybe set myself up for voting here actually) and I've not really a clue what the fuck is going on, it seemed like it was meant to be a police thing but all the candidates were of political parties, which I think most of the nation just got completely confused about. Police n politics shouldn't really mix (especially after the whole leveson n pleb stuff) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thursday Next Posted November 19, 2012 Report Share Posted November 19, 2012 I voted for the two independents for exactly the reason Dean mentions. I do not think that the police should be directly tied to a political party. My first choice got in. I can only assume that I am the only person who actually voted. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deanb Posted November 21, 2012 Author Report Share Posted November 21, 2012 http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-20415689 Church of England voted against having female bishops. Still fine with a female head though. http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-20405915 Andy Coulson and Rebekah Brooks have been formally charged in the phone hacking case. David Cameron says: LOL. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheFlyingGerbil Posted November 21, 2012 Report Share Posted November 21, 2012 Is there anything in the Bible that says only men can be priests, or that women can't be? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deanb Posted November 21, 2012 Author Report Share Posted November 21, 2012 Kinda. Given it's "Aaron and his sons". Remember, it has quite a bit to say on women and their olde-worlde place in society. However for the most part this is CofE law stuff and they're free to interpret and ignore the bible as they see fit. Hence female priests and gay priests n such. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chronixal Posted November 21, 2012 Report Share Posted November 21, 2012 I voted for the two independents for exactly the reason Dean mentions. I do not think that the police should be directly tied to a political party. My first choice got in. I can only assume that I am the only person who actually voted. Even the independents can't be trusted. Turns out at least two 'independents' were fully paid up members of the Lib-Dems. Conning bastards. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thursday Next Posted November 21, 2012 Report Share Posted November 21, 2012 I voted for the two independents for exactly the reason Dean mentions. I do not think that the police should be directly tied to a political party. My first choice got in. I can only assume that I am the only person who actually voted. Even the independents can't be trusted. Turns out at least two 'independents' were fully paid up members of the Lib-Dems. Conning bastards. :-O Sons of a bitches! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deanb Posted November 28, 2012 Author Report Share Posted November 28, 2012 http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-20515918 hahah, to tackle the drinking problem It's two fold; - Artifically give pubs an level playing field over drinks brought from supermarkets. - Fuck over the poor. (cos a minimum price won't affect premium drinks will it) Also it would to lead to people "panic buying" vast quantities of cheap booze in the lead up, thus meaning people are going to have stores of alchol at home which will for a short while make drinking issues worse not any better. Also it assumes that most alcoholics and problem drinkers are the poor, who would be put off by an increase in alcohol price, and not say proffesioanls in high stress jobs where the bottle is a friend and their salaries help buy expensive friends. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thursday Next Posted November 28, 2012 Report Share Posted November 28, 2012 You missed the bit where the government are not actually increasing taxes on booze (so that the money goes to say... the NHS), but instead the money is going into the coffers of supermarkets. Yes, this could result in an increase in corporation tax that would benefit us all, but I think Tesco are pretty good at tax planning these days so any bump there would be minimal. Further, "premium" alcohol brands will love it because they are no longer being undercut so they sell more or can increase their prices further. It also presumes that people who are both poor and dependent on alcohol would buy less alcohol and not less food, less clothing, less heating, less medicine etc. All in all this idea is terrible, gods know why the government can't see that. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheMightyEthan Posted November 28, 2012 Report Share Posted November 28, 2012 What are you talking about? I've certainly never heard of anyone with a substance abuse problem letting the rest of their life slip into hell just to continue feeding the addiction. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deanb Posted November 29, 2012 Author Report Share Posted November 29, 2012 http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-20543936 And now the Leveson Report. A lot of it is still being chewed through, so not quite sure on the overall outcome and what affects it's going to have. I guess it may be a case of wait and see. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thursday Next Posted November 29, 2012 Report Share Posted November 29, 2012 It will make precisely 0.01 of a fuck all difference to the way the media is held to account. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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