deanb Posted May 27, 2016 Author Report Share Posted May 27, 2016 Hah! Alcohol is the vice of the working class and binging students. They raised the minimum price rather than outlaw it. Cigarettes are like 80% tax too. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheMightyEthan Posted May 27, 2016 Report Share Posted May 27, 2016 Not saying it was used exclusively by the upper classes, but the upper classes used it almost ubiquitously, so of course they're not going to outlaw it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hot Heart Posted May 27, 2016 Report Share Posted May 27, 2016 Yeah, that was in the news not that long ago with regards to Nixon http://edition.cnn.com/2016/03/23/politics/john-ehrlichman-richard-nixon-drug-war-blacks-hippie/ 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deanb Posted May 29, 2016 Author Report Share Posted May 29, 2016 So there's a bit of a to-do at the moment over conservative election fraud. We have rules in place to limit expenditures during elections, and there's an issue where Conservatives had this "Battle Bus" that toured the country and was used by various campaigning MPs...and none of this expense was declared. So it's now being investigated. Though I'm unsure if much will come from it. Tories are tearing themselves apart over the EU election too. Doubt we'll have the same party in july that we have today. *rubs hands together* Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheFlyingGerbil Posted May 29, 2016 Report Share Posted May 29, 2016 Don't like to jump to an MPs defence as After the expenses scandal I think a lot of them should be in jail and many, many of them should have lost their jobs and I'm still massively pissed off about it as basically nothing happened, even the rule changes were absolutely insubstantial. But, from what I read this was a battle bus paid for by central office, that drove around the country and when it was in specific constituencies they all should have paid individually for the time it was there , which since itwasn't something they ordered themselves for their own campaign, seems a bit much to expect heads to roll. Unless it's worse than I understand it? The difference I see is with the expenses they were deliberately doing dodgy and downright illegal stuff for their own gain, and here i can genuinely see the logic of why you wouldn't think you'd need to pay locally when already paid nationally, i Do think it would make sense to have some election spending reform as the main thing I got from it was that it was unnecessarily confusing. Still pales in comparison to the funding up issues in the us though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thursday Next Posted June 1, 2016 Report Share Posted June 1, 2016 Better the devil you know. I think this can be safely filed as an administrative error. Not some indication of widespread corruption. As TFG said, the expenses thing was MP's jumping through loopholes (at best) to feather their nests. This looks more like a misunderstanding of how, if and when something should be double charged. I also doubt that the "battle bus" made any difference at all to the outcome. In other news, I will be severely pissed if the baby boomers that fucked up the housing market for us go ahead and fuck up our place in Europe because of some outmoded, age of empire, xenophobic stupidity. http://www.theguardian.com/politics/2016/apr/02/eu-referendum-young-voters-brexit-leave Seriously old people, this isn't going to affect you. You've got your pensions, you've got your house(s), you don't have a job for an immigrant to take, just leave this one to people that actually have a stake in it. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. GOH! Posted June 1, 2016 Report Share Posted June 1, 2016 Old people: fucking up democracy for the rest of us since ancient Greece. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deanb Posted June 6, 2016 Author Report Share Posted June 6, 2016 In case you were curious on how little fundamental rights we have as EU citizens. Obviously in america the rights are much bigger cos texas/kids will swallow the book and... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deanb Posted June 11, 2016 Author Report Share Posted June 11, 2016 Vote Leave are whining cos 22 of the folks in the birthday honours list are Remain supporters. There's 1,1149 people on the list, it's a bit of a stretch on their part but I guess it's not a stretch for them to make stretches...err..yeah that. http://www.theguardian.com/politics/2016/jun/10/leave-campaigners-accuse-david-cameron-of-abusing-honours-system "The British people simply aren’t going to tolerate being told what to do any more by Brussels, by Cameron, or by his newly-honoured accomplices." I agree which is why I am sailing, I am sailing, home again, cross the sea.... Anyway a shortened full list can be seen here: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-36492850 And the full list here: https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/birthday-honours-lists-2016 Also turns out Vera Lynn is still alive, maybe one day we'll meet again. (I've always known this song as been used frequently as an curtain call song in pantos, obviously used in Dr Strangelove too) Sent from my Intel® Core(RM) i5-4570 Windows 10 PC using Google Chrome 51.0.2704.84 m Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheMightyEthan Posted June 11, 2016 Report Share Posted June 11, 2016 Surely some number of them are vote leave supporters too? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deanb Posted June 11, 2016 Author Report Share Posted June 11, 2016 Well yes but that hardly like Leave are going to point that one out 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thursday Next Posted June 13, 2016 Report Share Posted June 13, 2016 This is sickening. Way to politicise the deaths of people half a world away to fit your agenda. https://twitter.com/LeaveEUOfficial/status/742317894978174976 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheMightyEthan Posted June 13, 2016 Report Share Posted June 13, 2016 Whatever it was it's been deleted. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deanb Posted June 13, 2016 Author Report Share Posted June 13, 2016 It was this https://twitter.com/jimwaterson/status/742319511261581312 (Also I find it fun that leave have a .eu domain, which they can only get because we're part of the EU....) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheMightyEthan Posted June 13, 2016 Report Share Posted June 13, 2016 Yeah, weird that they have a .eu instead of .uk domain. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. GOH! Posted June 15, 2016 Report Share Posted June 15, 2016 So it looks like Brexit will happen, if the polls are to be believed. My condolences to all you Brits. I am very worried by the rising tide of somewhat poweerful nativist and neo-fascist political groups across the globe, from Hindutva to Brexit to Trump supporters. It's appalling that the reaction to failed global neoliberalism is global nativist fascism. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheMightyEthan Posted June 15, 2016 Report Share Posted June 15, 2016 Polls are saying leave, but the "predictive markets" ( [emoji14] ) are saying 60/40 in favor of stay. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. GOH! Posted June 15, 2016 Report Share Posted June 15, 2016 I love predictive markets because they can be great encapsulations of the money's wishful thinking. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thursday Next Posted June 15, 2016 Report Share Posted June 15, 2016 2/3 people who want to leave EU think that we shouldn't listen to "experts" and should instead rely on the "common sense" of "ordinary people". I'm so done. Done done done. https://twitter.com/JoeTwyman/status/743079695986622464 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheMightyEthan Posted June 15, 2016 Report Share Posted June 15, 2016 I love predictive markets because they can be great encapsulations of the money's wishful thinking. Hey, don't shatter my own wishful thinking! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deanb Posted June 15, 2016 Author Report Share Posted June 15, 2016 It sucks. Like it's really getting to me too, especially with the idiocy displayed. I'm generally avoiding following it but I'm to understand Farage is currently campaigning in a boat along the Thames. I'm hoping the FTSE drop the last week will wake folks up that it really will heavily damage the UK economy if we leave. My step-mum works for a swedish company (their main known consumer brand being Flymo) and only reason their factory is still based in UK is cos of an uptick in sales on automatic mowers (like roombas, but for your lawn). Most of the sales aren't within the UK (we have small lawns...heck I've not lived anywhere with a lawn for 10 years now). We leave then the company is likely to shift production to one of their Polish factories and there's hundreds of jobs gone poof. Many of those campaigning to leave will all be pretty cozy regardless of the outcome. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. GOH! Posted June 15, 2016 Report Share Posted June 15, 2016 Fun fact: when the machines wake up and decide to kill us all, their vanguard will be automatic mowers. Terrifying. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheMightyEthan Posted June 15, 2016 Report Share Posted June 15, 2016 I wish I had an automatic mower. You don't think the vanguard will be military drones? [emoji14] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hot Heart Posted June 15, 2016 Report Share Posted June 15, 2016 2/3 people who want to leave EU think that we shouldn't listen to "experts" and should instead rely on the "common sense" of "ordinary people". I'm so done. Done done done. https://twitter.com/JoeTwyman/status/743079695986622464 And as for common "sense": https://twitter.com/JoelLewin/status/741394269517271044 https://www.ipsos-mori.com/researchpublications/researcharchive/3742/The-Perils-of-Perception-and-the-EU.aspx Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deanb Posted June 16, 2016 Author Report Share Posted June 16, 2016 http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-36550304 Well the EU referendum has now reached a point where a politician has been shot and stabbed. It's a still developing story, she's alive though critical. Both sides of referendum have pulled out of campaigning. It's suspected the shooter was a member of Britain First so that's a bit disturbing that they've progressed from shitty FB posts to radicalising British white men. edit: She's died. Fuck :/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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