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  1. 1. Should UK leave the EU

    • From UK: Should Stay
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    • From UK: Should Leave
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    • Outside of UK: Should Stay
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    • Outside of UK: Should Leave
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    • Outside of UK: None of my beeswax
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    • Left Leg In UK, Left Leg Out UK: Do the Okie-Kokie (that's what it's all about)
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So currently Jeremy Corbyn and Owen Smith are in a labour leadership battle, but in the meanwhile the constituency have been redrawn up and neither of their constituencies are on the list anymore :P

 

http://www.theguardian.com/politics/2016/sep/13/corbyn-johnson-and-osborne-among-mps-hit-by-electoral-shakeup

 

It'll affect MPs on the tory camp too, with enough seats hit that cover the current tory majority (though none of this comes in to effect until the 2020 election so that doesn't matter much).

 

edit: Oh yeah Cameron has quit as MP, reckons that the EU Referendum won't be his legacy. I guess if not it could always be the pig fucking thing.

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I think a lot of folks realise they're a bad idea, but at the moment the left is fucked. Lib Dems got fucked over with the coalition, Labour is tearing itself from the inside, and Green Party remains a lacking option. Oh and we're not allowed to vote for SNP (Though their main policy is for Scottish Independence)

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So Unilever who make a crap ton of things is raising their prices due to the falling £. Tesco have pulled Unilever products from their shelves

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-37639518

 

So yeah starting to hit home the effects of "brexit" even before we've started the official process.

 

And the expected has happened:

Scotland pushing forward for a second Referendum

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-scotland-politics-37634338

Given the near 50:50 split of last time and the fact the UK is falling apart I imagine it'll be much more overwhelmingly in favour of leaving, though obviously be interesting to see how that impact their EU membership. Or heck how it impacts the UKs.

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http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-37679896

 

I'm pretty sure at this point no one knows what the fuck is going on and the March deadline is just to try n come up with a proper excuse to just stop it in its tracks. A big part of the Leave campaign was against "unelected bureaucrats" yet May wasn't voted by anyone and is pushing through Article 50 and not allowing it to go to vote in parliament.

 

I just don't understand what at all she expects to gain from being the PM that pushed through Article 50. Considering all the Thatcher comparisons she's already on a backfoot for a positive legacy.

 

In other news the UKIP MEP that got punched by a fellow UKIP MEP has quit UKIP

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-37682828

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It's a mixed bag. US can vote again in 4 years (unless I dunno, some kind of enabling act were passed). Whereas over here once Article 50 is passed it'll be relatively permanent. Decades at the very least. However potentially Article 50 may not be enacted depending on outcome of supreme court decision and subsequent parliamentary vote, or if Scotland manages to put legal brakes on it.

 

though both situations are likely to (and have over here) lead to an increase in hate crime as people now see it sanctioned and justified.

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Agree with Dean, Brexit is way worse. Trump is just one guy. He can't *do* anything without SCOTUS, Senate, House, whatever signing off on it. He could maybe start a war... But I really don't think that likely.

 

Brexit is as Dean said irreversible and will change a huge amount here in regards to workers rights, import / export tariffs, and so forth. Ironically, immigration (especially of the illegal kind) is likely to remain unchanged since a lot of it happens from outside EU, but there you go... Everyone gets the history they deserve as my dad says. :) 

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Statement in question:

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Some folk get to talk at Parliament, for example Merkel was over a couple years ago.

 

And Obama many moons ago

(which as article notes is the first US president to do so)**

 

It's out of Bercows hands on Trump having a state visit, that's up for May or Queen to arrange. But as noted in the above it's within his purview to have a visiting speaker or not. It's not exactly a god given right that heads of state get to address parliament.

 

Given May is not exactly popular, and certainly neither is Trump considering more of us (not myself, cos I know the response last time petition went up) have petitioned to refuse him entry to UK than turned up at his inauguration, it might be that his visit is pretty low key just to not rustle too many feathers with the public. He'll probably end up with some egg on him at the very least.

 

*Skinner who shows up at the end, is an interesting fellow. He's a republican (our kind, not yours) and over the years has humorously let it be known.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dennis_Skinner#Queen.27s_Speech_.22jokes.22

 

**You may notice that because we mostly lack guns he only needs really tiny panes of bullet proof glass.

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http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-39325561

 

Article 50 to be tirggered on 29th.

 

All that's left now I guess if for the rest of the EU to go "no". (not that they can, that's sort of the point of Article 50). Will of the fecking people. Trumps an ass, but he's an ass for 4 years.

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