Dead Space

[topekaguy]

Dead Space 2: More Deader, followed by Dead Space 2: More Deader 1 2/3...

[Mister Jack]

Dead Space 3: Get Deaderer

[Showmeyomoves!]

Witty Sub Title:

 

Worth an Arm and a Leg

 

I would have gone with:

 

"In Space, No One Can Hear You... Be... Dead...?"

 

Also: THERE'S A DEMO WTF? I checked the PSN Store last night and I didn't see anything. Guess we're behind as usual.

[HotChops]

The demo wasn't bad imo, but it really didn't show much new content.

 

I think the demo was really just a medium for EA to bring new players up to speed on the story of Dead Space.

 

On that note, I really hope the opening narrative is left out of DS2. One of the things I loved about the first Dead Space is that they don't beat you over the head with the story. Like Bioshock, the story is picked up peripherally from the surroundings.

 

And a side note: They only mention it in the demo, but DS2 has multiplayer. I'm sorry, but yet again I feel like this is a stupid example of just tacking on multiplayer. You want to talk about gaming tropes that have to go? How about the assumption that every damn game has to have a competitive multiplayer mode?

 

Discuss

[Mister Jack]

I kinda like the idea of the DS2 multi though...It sounds like L4D, which on paper also sounded like "Why does this need versus?" but turned out great.

[HotChops]

I kinda like the idea of the DS2 multi though...It sounds like L4D, which on paper also sounded like "Why does this need versus?" but turned out great.

 

I guess... but I'm like Ken Levine, and still think that there's too much damn multiplayer going around these days.

[Mister Jack]

Well yeah, there is, but I think this one could be good. I actually felt Assassin's Creed didn't need it.

[TheMightyEthan]

I merged HotChops' Dead Space 2 Demo thread with this one, since so far we've mostly been talking about the demo in here anyway.

 

*Edit* - On topic, I'm skeptical about the multiplayer, but I'll give it a shot. Like Jack points out, I was also very skeptical about the AC:B multiplayer, but that turned out to show some real promise.

[Mister Jack]

I don't think the AC multi is BAD per se, I just don't feel much staying power.

[CorgiShinobi]

Downloaded it last night, and it's everything I was expecting. There's more action, but there were definitely some scary moments. What might have helped was my TV's speakers. One moment everything is calm and almost mute, and then it's loud enough to wake the dead!

 

It looks like the weapons they gave you as default really made the difference. I was really thinking I was going to die after those Necromorph kids surrounded me. Oh wait, I have the Line Gun! BAM! I'm still really rusty, and when I was low on health, and I saw the Necromorph at the end, I was like, "Yelp, I'm not gonna make it."

[toxicitizen]

Forgot to mention it in my previous post, but it feels like the psychological aspect of it could really add to the scares.

 

First one had a great atsmophere and sound design, but wasn't really that scary.

 

When playing the demo,

the part when the tubes suddenly come alive with corpses for a second really made me jump

 

Also the fact that the next room was identical to that one really sort of gave an impression that going through the first room might've been a hallucination.

 

[TheMightyEthan]

The first one wasn't psychologically scary, but I was tense the whole fucking time. They did a good job of making sure you never quite felt safe. Like... I know I'm probably safe, but I can't ever let my guard down, because the instant I do they're going to fuck me over.

[toxicitizen]

Yeah, I was definitely tense, but it wasn't scary.

 

For example, I started playing the first Penumbra game once and found myself hiding behind crates because I didn't want to see what had just made that noise around the next corner It was the first time I was genuinely afraid to proceed in a game. The first Silent Hill also came pretty close to that when I played it last year. The atmosphere is so goddamned creepy that it feels like the town itself is alive and out to get you. In some areas, I found the sections without any enemies to shoot to be scarier than when I was fighting or running away.

[TheMightyEthan]

There were times in Dead Space when I didn't want to enter the next area cause I knew something horrible would happen to me. But yeah, I get what you mean, I was more scared of what was going to happen to me than actually scared of the necromorphs in and of themselves.

[Mister Jack]

I like how Dead Space has moments that seem like they're cutscenes, but then you realize "Shit! I should be shooting! What am I doing just sitting here?!"

[TheMightyEthan]

:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

 

Yeah, that got me the first time.

[RadiantViper]

Played the demo. It's a lot like the first, but I'm ok with that. The swearing when I used the melee attacked seemed pointless, especially when he did it as I melee'd a floor.

 

Still annoyed by the addition of multiplayer. I looked over the achievement list and there's a good chance there aren't any multiplayer specific achievements, which would be nice.

[Mister Jack]

Swearing? I didn't see that, but I didn't do much melee.

 

And while it may be a little unusual for Isaac to have a voice now, it at least is a voice that fits. I was afraid it'd be some gruff action hero thing.

[RadiantViper]

The swearing actually came across as 'gruff action hero' to me. He says things like 'Die you f*ck!' (something like that). A bit odd, but I would've been ok with it if they programmed it so he only swore when he was actually killing a necromorph ... not a floor panel I dunno, I'm ok with the voice and all, I guess I thought him being mostly silent in the first worked fine.

 

Also, they took away the incredibly-awesome-looking-but-incredibly-pointless alt fire on the Pulse Rifle and replaced it with a grenade launcher that looks lame but is actually helpful. So I'm sort of indifferent about that.

[Mister Jack]

I dunno, cussing out a floor panel seems pretty funny to me.

[RadiantViper]

I dunno, cussing out a floor panel seems pretty funny to me.

 

Oh, I definitely laughed. But this is supposed to be a horror game, so making me laugh just ruins the atmosphere.

[Mister Jack]

Yeah, I'll give you that. I never ran into the random cursing but if you say it's in there I believe you.

[toxicitizen]

What I found odd was how Isaac seems to no longer be able to open lockers/storage boxes on wall or whatever. Now he has to break them open with a melee attack?

 

Ultimately, it's a change that doesn't change much of anything. It doesn't bother me, but it does bring up the question of why they bothered changing it at all.

[Mister Jack]

It might have been the level itself since it was frozen over or something like that.

[RadiantViper]

Just try running into the first room and meleeing a bunch. On the plus side, you can now melee faster, and melee in a circle. Which is mildly entertaining.

 

Also, that one javelin weapon turned out to be cooler than expected, I thought it would do the usual 'shoot spike into enemy, press a button to blow it up; shtick.