deanb Posted September 4, 2013 Report Share Posted September 4, 2013 Steam, couldn't you at least give me a fucking heads up before you take all your community servers offline for maintenance? https://twitter.com/Steam_Support/status/374958538176876544 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheMightyEthan Posted September 4, 2013 Report Share Posted September 4, 2013 A pop-up warning on Steam itself would be nice. A tweet's easy to miss. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mister Jack Posted September 4, 2013 Report Share Posted September 4, 2013 Seriously, I don't even use twitter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deanb Posted September 11, 2013 Report Share Posted September 11, 2013 http://store.steampowered.com/sharing/ You can now share games on a single PC. Guess it's good for family PC, but I imagine for a large majority of people these days it might not be a major game changer. Certainly won't be for me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eleven Posted September 12, 2013 Report Share Posted September 12, 2013 The The Verge article makes it sound like 10 additional devices, with only 1 playing it, much like the old Xbox plan. http://www.theverge.com/2013/9/11/4719748/steam-launching-friends-and-family-sharing-10-devices-beta-program Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faiblesse Des Sens Posted September 12, 2013 Report Share Posted September 12, 2013 Can a friend and I share a library and both play at the same time? No, a shared library may only be accessed by one user at a time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eleven Posted September 12, 2013 Report Share Posted September 12, 2013 LOL! I scrolled down and assumed it's one of those new fancy pages with big text and images and gave up on finding useful information. Yeah, that FAQ below is pretty clear it's the whole library, to one person, and you can't play. I guess it's useful during times I'm playing a game on a console, like I do now. If you're a PC gamer, primarily, it's really limited. Unless you plan to go on a vacation or just give up video gaming for the time being. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deanb Posted September 12, 2013 Report Share Posted September 12, 2013 Hadn't noticed the "10 devices" thing before now. Seems significantly less like family sharing. I also imagine it's going to get pretty annoying with fuckers wanting access to your library, it's already annoying with the trades. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thursday Next Posted September 12, 2013 Report Share Posted September 12, 2013 LOL! I scrolled down and assumed it's one of those new fancy pages with big text and images and gave up on finding useful information. Yeah, that FAQ below is pretty clear it's the whole library, to one person, and you can't play. I guess it's useful during times I'm playing a game on a console, like I do now. If you're a PC gamer, primarily, it's really limited. Unless you plan to go on a vacation or just give up video gaming for the time being. You need to read it again. "WHEN I AUTHORIZE A DEVICE TO LEND MY LIBRARY TO OTHERS, DO I LIMIT MY OWN ABILITY TO ACCESS AND PLAY MY GAMES? As the lender, you may always access and play your games at any time. If you decide to start playing when a friend is already playing one of your games, he/she will be given a few minutes to either purchase the game or quit playing." 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vecha Posted September 12, 2013 Report Share Posted September 12, 2013 (edited) The sharing thing sounded great...till I found out you can't simultaneous use the library. (Typo :/)Just sounds like streamlined account sharing, without the worry of someone changing your password.Yay? I guess? Edited September 12, 2013 by Vecha Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deanb Posted September 12, 2013 Report Share Posted September 12, 2013 You can't have simultaneous use of the library, as Thursday just quoted, when the account owner wants to play a game, you get the option to buy or quit the game you're currently "borrowing". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eleven Posted September 12, 2013 Report Share Posted September 12, 2013 (edited) LOL! I scrolled down and assumed it's one of those new fancy pages with big text and images and gave up on finding useful information. Yeah, that FAQ below is pretty clear it's the whole library, to one person, and you can't play. I guess it's useful during times I'm playing a game on a console, like I do now. If you're a PC gamer, primarily, it's really limited. Unless you plan to go on a vacation or just give up video gaming for the time being. You need to read it again. "WHEN I AUTHORIZE A DEVICE TO LEND MY LIBRARY TO OTHERS, DO I LIMIT MY OWN ABILITY TO ACCESS AND PLAY MY GAMES? As the lender, you may always access and play your games at any time. If you decide to start playing when a friend is already playing one of your games, he/she will be given a few minutes to either purchase the game or quit playing." Of course you could kick them out. That's not my point though. You have to give up gaming if you want to share your library, for the time being. You could always kick them out, yes, but you had an agreement with your friend that you're going to let him play. You can't just kick them out in those scenarios. Otherwise why share it in the first place? I'm talking about actually letting them play through it. So unless you plan to stop playing, you can't really share your library (reliably). Also, Vecha just had a typo there. That's exactly what he was saying. Edited September 12, 2013 by eleven Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheMightyEthan Posted September 12, 2013 Report Share Posted September 12, 2013 You could always kick them out, yes, but you had an agreement with your friend that you're going to let him play. You can't just kick them out in those scenarios. You and your friends must have a more formal relationship than me and mine. The point of doing it would be so that they could have access to it when you weren't playing, and yeah if you notice that they're playing one of your games it would be courteous to give them a heads up and let them get to a stopping point before you kick them out, but I highly doubt most people are going to feel like they're obligated to not play their games just because they gave their friend access. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thursday Next Posted September 12, 2013 Report Share Posted September 12, 2013 Yeah, I'm not seeing how this requires you to give up gaming. An absolute maximum of 10 titles would be unavailable to you. Assuming you share with people on this forum the combination of being in different timezones, some people working part time, full time or weekends only means that you are actually quite unlikely to want to play the same game at the exact same time. As Ethan says, it would be polite to say "Can you save and quit please, I'd like to play [X]." at which point your friend can play one of the other titles in your library, but if I was borrowing a game I wouldn't exactly be pissed if I got a few minutes warning to pack up my stuff and get out. The point of this is not to give you 10 copies of the game to gift to your friends (otherwise Valve would do just that). It's to give someone temporary access while you aren't using it. Much like lending a disc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FredEffinChopin Posted September 12, 2013 Report Share Posted September 12, 2013 I believe this is primarily for people in the same household who would like to play games on their own unique accounts, but don't want to buy every game twice. Husband & wife, brother & sister, two roomies.... Sure, I can play Bit Trip on your account on our shared PC (or on your acccount on our separate PCs), but if I need to do it on your account, I don't get my own achievements, and my gameplay time tracked is added to yours. As Thursday said, this makes it a little more like a disc. While it will be used all kinds of ways, I believe the problem this is looking to solve is a problem that is unique to a platform whose games are only distributed digitally. I think it's great. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheMightyEthan Posted September 12, 2013 Report Share Posted September 12, 2013 (edited) Yeah, I'm not seeing how this requires you to give up gaming. An absolute maximum of 10 titles would be unavailable to you. Assuming you share with people on this forum the combination of being in different timezones, some people working part time, full time or weekends only means that you are actually quite unlikely to want to play the same game at the exact same time. As Ethan says, it would be polite to say "Can you save and quit please, I'd like to play [X]." at which point your friend can play one of the other titles in your library, but if I was borrowing a game I wouldn't exactly be pissed if I got a few minutes warning to pack up my stuff and get out. The point of this is not to give you 10 copies of the game to gift to your friends (otherwise Valve would do just that). It's to give someone temporary access while you aren't using it. Much like lending a disc. My understanding from reading it is that you share the whole library, and if you are playing any game in your library then none of the people you're sharing with can play any game in the library, even if it's a separate game from what you're playing. So if you have SR4 and Skyrim in your library, and your friend is playing Skyrim, and you start playing SR4, it will kick them out of Skyrim. *Edit* - It's like if the only way to lend a disc was to also lend your entire disc binder. Edited September 12, 2013 by TheMightyEthan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eleven Posted September 12, 2013 Report Share Posted September 12, 2013 (edited) More like an absolute maximum of all your games would be unavailable to you. You can't play any game from your library if you are sharing it. All or nothing. That's why you "give it up". If you want my Bioshock, I can share my library to you. If I want to play Bastion, I have to kick you out of Bioshock. The library is shared. Not 10 games. The thing is, me and my friends play at the same time. At night after work or on the weekends. So, unlike the rumored Xbox sharing, it's a whole lot limited and would essentially force me (not really) to stop playing just to lend a game. Edited September 12, 2013 by eleven Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thursday Next Posted September 12, 2013 Report Share Posted September 12, 2013 Oh yes. You're both right, my mistake. Nevertheless. Still think it's a good deal. Just means that when I want to play my games on Steam, you will have to play a game you own instead. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheMightyEthan Posted September 12, 2013 Report Share Posted September 12, 2013 Yeah, I don't see the problem. Sure, it's not as good as it could conceivably be, but it's still pretty awesome. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vecha Posted September 12, 2013 Report Share Posted September 12, 2013 Yeah..sorry. Had a typo.Point still stands...it's just a safer account sharing feature. Would be nice if digital could eventually be just as user friendly to our rights like our physical counterparts :/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deanb Posted October 30, 2013 Report Share Posted October 30, 2013 http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2013-10-30-steam-passes-65-million-active-users-milestone There is now more Steam users than there are Brits. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrowKnow Posted November 25, 2013 Report Share Posted November 25, 2013 http://store.steampowered.com/reviews/ Steam recommendations have basically been upgraded to reviews. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deanb Posted November 25, 2013 Report Share Posted November 25, 2013 I guess cos they realised that folks were using it that way anyway. Just because a game was listed as "four of your friends have Recommended this game" doesn't always mean it was good things to say. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FredEffinChopin Posted January 3, 2014 Report Share Posted January 3, 2014 http://www.theguardian.com/technology/2014/jan/03/online-gaming-steam-ddos-attack-ea-origin I guess it isn't just me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deanb Posted January 3, 2014 Report Share Posted January 3, 2014 Lots of large botnets around there to be able to take on services like these. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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