deanb Posted January 7, 2012 Report Share Posted January 7, 2012 Yeah it's a bit odd that I love RPGs, but their length makes them impossible to finish. I do like short 12hr or so games that have the feeling of accomplishment, but they're also somewhat depressing in how quickly they can be burned through. Especially as most are linear affairs. Though both Fable 3 n DXHR I've managed to complete the past year, both coming in at 30 hours a piece. Though I'll probably never finish Skyrim I have gotten 180hrs in it already. Most of the shorter 12hr type games tend to be on console. I think it's part of the trade-in mentality there; you buy, play, trade in a week later for another 12hr affair. Whereas on PC I've noticed a fair chunk of games either tend to be epic length RPGs, repeatable casual type games, or primarily (many times exclusively, I think console only has MAG) multiplayer games. It's a hard sell on a permeanty sale of a game that might only be played once for just half a day. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peteer01 Posted January 8, 2012 Report Share Posted January 8, 2012 Tetris Pac-Man Streets of Rage II Guardian Heroes (back when I could access a working copy) Ikaruga Geometry Wars: Retro Evolved Dance Dance Revolution games I'm not listing games like Street Fighter or Borderlands. Any V.S. games are a different experience when you have a new opponent or a new match up, so I think a human opponent adds replayability. I didn't list Borderlands because despite putting more time into the game with maxed out characters than reaching max level, the fact that there's always a better item (pretty much, it's statistically improbable anyone would ever have all the best items legitimately) means that everytime you play, there's items left to obtain that add to your character's progression. I don't think it's that older games were necessarily better, but rather that the vast majority of good games are designed with some level or replayability in mind. Just look at achievements. Unless you've gotten all the achievements/trophies for a game, you can argue that there's replayability value. Trying to pick a retail 360 game that I played with no interest whatsoever in the replayability value, I'd have to say taht the only true answer I can see in my game collection is Portal, which I loaded back up to play through again a few weeks ago. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deanb Posted January 8, 2012 Report Share Posted January 8, 2012 I'd argue that stuff like Tetris and PAcman are replayable. And in fact that's entirely the purpose of them, they had to be replayable or people would only put in one quarter into the machine and be done. Sure they have no story to be changed, but there's the constant stuff of getting to a higher level, a higher score etc. They're not games you play once then be done with. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peteer01 Posted January 8, 2012 Report Share Posted January 8, 2012 (edited) I'd argue that stuff like Tetris and PAcman are replayable. And in fact that's entirely the purpose of them, they had to be replayable or people would only put in one quarter into the machine and be done. Sure they have no story to be changed, but there's the constant stuff of getting to a higher level, a higher score etc. They're not games you play once then be done with. True. But they're also games that bring nothing new to the table between play 100 and play 200...especially Pac-Man, where the AI is not random. That said, I definitely see your point. Edited January 8, 2012 by peteer01 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheMightyEthan Posted January 8, 2012 Report Share Posted January 8, 2012 Yeah, I think arcade/puzzle games like that are inherently replayable. Or more accurately the term "replayability" doesn't even really apply since you can't ever "finish" them. I think most racing games and multiplayer games don't really count in here for the same reason. You never finish CoD's multiplayer, so you can't really "replay" it. The idea of replaying kind of presupposes something that can be played through to completion. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peteer01 Posted January 8, 2012 Report Share Posted January 8, 2012 Yeah, I think arcade/puzzle games like that are inherently replayable. Or more accurately the term "replayability" doesn't even really apply since you can't ever "finish" them. I think most racing games and multiplayer games don't really count in here for the same reason. You never finish CoD's multiplayer, so you can't really "replay" it. The idea of replaying kind of presupposes something that can be played through to completion. Actually, now that I think about it, I'd argue that Call of Duty: Black Ops is the one recent 360 I did consistantly play with as little replayability value as possible. After I finished 15th prestige and bought gold guns for all the guns I liked, I kept playing without any need for money, XP, daily challenges, and I'd pretty much completed all the challenges I was going to accomplish. I just liked to play it. (Which is not something I'd claim for MW2 or MW3, where it's the social aspect that has me pop the game in, and all the XP and other "rank up" tricks help keep it interesting... But yeah, I can see why even then people say that the replayability is inherently in multiplayer, which is why I didn't put any multiplayer games in my list. I think DDR falls under "puzzle" enough to be ruled out, and shmups, at least shmups like Ikaruga that reward memorization as highly as they do, fall under similar umbrella of inherent replayability... So, that leaves: Streets of Rage II Guardian Heroes (back when I could access a working copy) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hot Heart Posted January 8, 2012 Report Share Posted January 8, 2012 Guardian Heroes (back when I could access a working copy) Forgive me if I'm telling you something you already know, but there was an updated version released for XBLA, I believe. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peteer01 Posted January 8, 2012 Report Share Posted January 8, 2012 (edited) Guardian Heroes (back when I could access a working copy) Forgive me if I'm telling you something you already know, but there was an updated version released for XBLA, I believe. I did not know that! And I just so happen to be sitting on more MS points than I know what to do with. I am going to have to purchase that. That'll be a great game to play with my son! EDIT: Downloading now! Thanks! Edited January 8, 2012 by peteer01 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hot Heart Posted January 8, 2012 Report Share Posted January 8, 2012 I did not know that! And I just so happen to be sitting on more MS points than I know what to do with. I am going to have to purchase that. That'll be a great game to play with my son! EDIT: Downloading now! Thanks! Hehe. Glad to help! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peteer01 Posted January 8, 2012 Report Share Posted January 8, 2012 I did not know that! And I just so happen to be sitting on more MS points than I know what to do with. I am going to have to purchase that. That'll be a great game to play with my son! EDIT: Downloading now! Thanks! Hehe. Glad to help! Wow. My 3-year-old to the three planes like a duck to water. Also, this game makes down, down, Y, down, down, Y more fun than it should be. However, with all of the story branches, I suppose someone could argue that there's replayability...although I'm pretty sure I played it enough to see all the levels and endings... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strangelove Posted January 9, 2012 Report Share Posted January 9, 2012 Russian roulette. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Little Pirate Posted February 5, 2012 Report Share Posted February 5, 2012 I love my point and click adventure games. I play Sam and Max, King's Quest, Monkey Islands and so on over and over. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faiblesse Des Sens Posted February 5, 2012 Report Share Posted February 5, 2012 Diablo series. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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