CorgiShinobi Posted February 16, 2015 Report Share Posted February 16, 2015 Doubtful as deeming success in selling 100% of a couple hundred thousand units isn't akin to selling, say, 60% of your 1 million units. I have to imagine that even if investors aren't fully capable of understanding every detail, they have expectations from multiple investor meetings. I doubt Iwata could blow that much smoke up so many asses. If anything, it's hurting Nintendo as it indicates they're a business incapable of meeting demand and allowing third parties profit beyond major retailer pricing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thursday Next Posted February 16, 2015 Report Share Posted February 16, 2015 Limiting production runs on special editions is sensible, it drives up demand for the special edition, provided that you have an alternate product (which they do in the 3DS/3DSXL). Nintendo limiting stock in channel generally is also a sensible move, it's one of the reasons for the Nintendo premium (along with fewer releases, not doing yearly iterations, and not doing online stuff) since retailers aren't left holding palettes of stock that they need to shift when the next lot comes in. And yeah, investors aren't normally dumb enough to be sold on a 100% headline, they'd look at the actual numbers too. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vecha Posted February 16, 2015 Report Share Posted February 16, 2015 Honestly, maybe deep in the recesses of my subconscious, I probably rushed to buy the "new" Nintendo 3DS due to it selling out everywhere and with every version(that and seeing as I was upgrading from regular to XL seemed awesome enough).Maybe this is a dumb question....but why not have pre-orders on their site/others and perhaps do one or two more waves of a "special" edition console?I would think Nintendo could make some good bank from doing that. Hell, mark it up an extra 50-100 bucks. I'd much rather spend that much more instead of the 200 or so hundred more on Ebay. Then again...sure the scalpers would still swoop in and grab more. And it would take away the "special edition" feeling those who were quick to grab the console.Since Nintendo has such a reputation of not sending out a lot of whatever product...they continue to sell 100% of it. Though..like others have said, why not raise it up a bit more to respond to that reputation?(and maybe that have?) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vecha Posted February 16, 2015 Report Share Posted February 16, 2015 To side step the conspiracy theory.I find this funny http://www.reddit.com/r/3DS/comments/2vvj1l/okay_lets_stop_the_drama_and_really_be_honest_here/This is directed at Ethan. STOP THE DRAMA! Give Nintendo a break! What, you want them to give you a handy AND a blow job? I'm tired of your hate of the Holy Nintendo Gods! Let they have mercy on your soul!hehe 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Mister Jack Posted February 16, 2015 Popular Post Report Share Posted February 16, 2015 (edited) I continue to reject the notion that purposely limiting supply is good for anyone but scalpers. If they made a bunch of units for a few months and then stopped that would be one thing. It's still a shitty practice, but at least I would understand it. However, that's not the case here. This isn't a "limited" edition they keep running out of. This is a "ha ha fuck you, you'll never own one" edition. There are so few of these so-called limited editions to go around that most people, myself included, don't even get a CHANCE to buy one. I would happily throw my money at them as soon as possible to get the MM edition before they stop making it, but nobody will let me because there aren't enough units for everyone who wants one. That's bad business no matter how you slice it. How is not taking the money of thousands and thousands of people supposed to benefit them? Also, I don't put a lot of stock in that "desperation" angle either where they're counting on people to look for the special ones, then give up and buy the regular one out of frustration. Not only is that extremely manipulative (and unnecessary) but I just don't think that's how it works. I'm sure there are people like that out there, but I bet there are just as many who will decide to not even bother. I'm one of them. I could maybe go for the Monster Hunter one if there comes a point where Nintendo is obviously never making the MM version again, since that one looked pretty nice to me too, but I outright refuse to buy red or black. I'm not spending 200 dollars on a version I don't want, so Nintendo can either get their shit together or they can fuck off until they make some other edition that interests me because I'm not going to reward their incompetence. Edited February 16, 2015 by Mister Jack 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CorgiShinobi Posted February 17, 2015 Report Share Posted February 17, 2015 On the Reddit thread, the top comment nails it: The issue isn't that it's hard, but that if you mess up, there's not much you can do to fix it. This stresses people out and causes them to be extra careful before transferring systems. That was me, so while it's nice not to download all your games again, there's the flip side of potentially screwing yourself. Nice if it works for you, absolute kick to the junk if mishap arises. As for colors and special editions, I myself am particular on which I own. I was thinking to myself that if I was late in grabbing a "New Red", would I be satisfied with Black? I think it's like picking a car; if you're going to have it for years, have it in a color you like and don't settle for less. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheMightyEthan Posted February 17, 2015 Report Share Posted February 17, 2015 I don't think it would be stressful for me, my issue with it is the second most popular comment: The point isn't that it's difficult. The point is that it is a cumbersome and unneccesary process compared to every other device out there because of Nintendo's poor policies. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mister Jack Posted February 18, 2015 Report Share Posted February 18, 2015 (edited) Apparently there's a dock workers' strike happening on the west coast right now, and while I still don't believe Nintendo has produced anywhere near enough New 3DSes to meet the demand, the fact that 90% of Asia's goods are shipped to the US through the west coast could indicate that there may be a bunch of New 3DS systems sitting on a boat right now, unable to get into the country because of the strike. Keep in mind that there is evidently no 3DS shortage in Europe, even of the limited edition systems. WHY CAN'T IT BE REGION FREE GOD DAMN IT Edited February 18, 2015 by Mister Jack 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheMightyEthan Posted February 18, 2015 Report Share Posted February 18, 2015 WHY CAN'T IT BE REGION FREE GOD DAMN IT Because Nintendo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheFlyingGerbil Posted February 18, 2015 Report Share Posted February 18, 2015 they did sort of say they were looking at that issue didn't they now that they try and have worldwide releases for more of their products? Guess that wouldn't happen until next gen though if at all, and then probably only on retail not eShop. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CorgiShinobi Posted February 19, 2015 Report Share Posted February 19, 2015 If any of you didn't know, you can get a generic USB cable for a 3DS (old, XL, or New) for around $5 off Amazon to both fulfill the lack of an AC adapter for the New 3DS, but also give you versatility in charging methods. I just received mine today and it works just fine and is a good length. http://amzn.com/B0024ZT3XO On the stupid side of things, this: http://www.nintendolife.com/news/2015/02/nintendo_of_americas_damon_baker_explains_the_new_nintendo_3ds_xl_decision_and_desire_to_engage_with_the_community It boils down to because of the terrible product naming on Nintendo's end, the North American market would be confused on having two New 3DS handhelds. Yeah, except we primarily have XL variants as our go-to 3DS handheld for the last year with the traditional 3DS being limited and typically old inventory in less frequented stores. I think they were going to "confuzzle" the market either way with the new New 3DS no matter the size variant. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mister Jack Posted February 19, 2015 Report Share Posted February 19, 2015 Iwata has come out and admitted that the port strike on the west coast is the reason for recent supply woes, and since the strike stretches all the way back to November this includes Amiibos, Gamecube adapters, and 3DS units alike. He also said it doesn't impact the supply of games because "games are lightweight and can be flown to America." 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheMightyEthan Posted February 19, 2015 Report Share Posted February 19, 2015 "Admitted" or "seized as an excuse"? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mister Jack Posted February 19, 2015 Report Share Posted February 19, 2015 Oh I'm sure it's both. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheFlyingGerbil Posted February 19, 2015 Report Share Posted February 19, 2015 you'll see when the strike is over - if there is suddenly stock then they've either made extra stuff and shipped it or he's telling the truth. Either was is a result. If they aren't stuck and they have no intention of making more then it seems weird he would outright lie as it would only annoy people with no positives. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheMightyEthan Posted February 19, 2015 Report Share Posted February 19, 2015 Japanese companies lie all the time, for no discernible reason. The one that always comes to mind for me is when Atlus straight-up said it had no plans to bring Catherine to NA, and then two weeks later announced the NA release date for a few months after that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faiblesse Des Sens Posted February 20, 2015 Report Share Posted February 20, 2015 Japanese companies lie all the time, for no discernible reason. The one that always comes to mind for me is when Atlus straight-up said it had no plans to bring Catherine to NA, and then two weeks later announced the NA release date for a few months after that. Why would they break their marketing plan and announce early if they don't have to? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheMightyEthan Posted February 20, 2015 Report Share Posted February 20, 2015 I'm not saying they should have announced it, but rather should have said "we don't comment on rumors" or something along those lines. It's just weird to outright lie. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheFlyingGerbil Posted February 20, 2015 Report Share Posted February 20, 2015 Just in case the normal scalpers weren't riling you up enough. Here you go. Yours for only $11,000 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheMightyEthan Posted February 20, 2015 Report Share Posted February 20, 2015 The non-microwaved one for $10,000 is a better deal, imo. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TCP Posted February 20, 2015 Report Share Posted February 20, 2015 The non-microwaved one for $10,000 is a better deal, imo. I dunno, they would both play the same amount of good games. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CorgiShinobi Posted February 20, 2015 Report Share Posted February 20, 2015 *looks up from Monster Hunter 4 Ultimate to see dusty Vita on shelf* Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mister Jack Posted February 21, 2015 Report Share Posted February 21, 2015 The non-microwaved one for $10,000 is a better deal, imo. I dunno, they would both play the same amount of good games. I like my vita and all but I'm not even going to pretend that the 3DS doesn't have a library that's a million times better. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faiblesse Des Sens Posted February 21, 2015 Report Share Posted February 21, 2015 I'm not saying they should have announced it, but rather should have said "we don't comment on rumors" or something along those lines. It's just weird to outright lie. IDK, seems like a non-issue to me since the meaning is the same. But gamers love to take everything literally and at face value. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheMightyEthan Posted February 21, 2015 Report Share Posted February 21, 2015 I just hate it when people lie, whether it's related to gaming or not. Saying "we do not have plans to do that" is factually untrue, as obviously (based on the timing) they did have plans. Saying "we are not going to comment on that" or "we do not have anything to announce at this time" is not untrue, it's just them saying they're not talking about it. That is an important distinction, and an odd quirk of Japanese companies. I'm not saying Western companies never lie, it's just they tend not to do it quite so obviously. If a Western company lies it's because they intend you never to learn the truth, they don't do it knowing that they themselves are going to reveal the lie in a week. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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