Monday Night Combat

[Baguette]

What about the juice and armor endorsements? How useful would those be at bronze? What does the juice endorsement even do?

For armor you really want it to be at least gold otherwise everyone will tear you apart. Juice endorsement is basically useless since it only gives you a set amount of juice when you spawn unless you plan on dying constantly after juicing.

[toxicitizen]

I think that's why they have the tutorial with him. Teaches you the rules without bogging you down with complex per-class tactics too.

Yeah I just think it would be nice to have tutorials for the other classes that you can play through afterwards, too. Even if just a video.

Agreed.

In my first game after the tutorial last night, I tried the Assassin but was a bit lost honestly and ended up switching to Assault pretty quickly.

[TheMightyEthan]

I am so bad at assault it's not even funny.

[mintycrys]

Assault is a class that really relies on a good endorsement setup to compete against specific team types.

[Pheermee]

Assault doesnt even need to have endorsements to kill tanks. All he has to do is think "DIE" and the tank falls over.

[Knifington STRIKE]

Is anyone good with the Tank class? So far I've stuck to Assassin and Sniper, but I'd like to branch out a bit and be a better team player.

 

What is the primary focus for the Tank? Who does he suck against? What endorsements work best with his particular skill set?

[deanb]

So I found out why I was getting horrendous lag (Let's just say that my 360 pad wasn't the only thing plugged into the 360. )

It's still pretty bad but I managed to get into a sub-100 ping match today. Played alright.

 

I'm gonna say the Assassin needs mega-nerfing(Mostly health). And maybe the Gunner should live up to his name.

Could maybe do with a few more maps (I think there's like 3 at the moment and the SP arena) and maybe some bigger ones on top of that.

Tank needs his weapon augmenting to make it obvious he's a short-range fighter. The beam thing goes on for almost ever but it's only reading the Playbook that you find out that it's not a bug that's causing it to only do damage at a short range.

 

tl;dr :Games still in beta for a reason.

[Mister Jack]

I'm not sure whether to use a keyboard and mouse for the sake of aiming or use a gamepad for the sake of ease of movement/ability access.

[deanb]

You should learn how to play with a keyboard and mouse...expand your play!

[Mister Jack]

[deanb]

Hey man. That's right from the horses mouth:

[brida]

So I found out why I was getting horrendous lag (Let's just say that my 360 pad wasn't the only thing plugged into the 360. )

It's still pretty bad but I managed to get into a sub-100 ping match today. Played alright.

 

I'm gonna say the Assassin needs mega-nerfing(Mostly health). And maybe the Gunner should live up to his name.

Could maybe do with a few more maps (I think there's like 3 at the moment and the SP arena) and maybe some bigger ones on top of that.

Tank needs his weapon augmenting to make it obvious he's a short-range fighter. The beam thing goes on for almost ever but it's only reading the Playbook that you find out that it's not a bug that's causing it to only do damage at a short range.

 

tl;dr :Games still in beta for a reason.

Assasin needs NERFING? In HEALTH? But...they have the lowest health. They get shredded to bits soooo so easily, even with armor and health. And gunner rips through everything, really.

 

Tank can fuckin snipe with his gun, not reaaaally a short range fighter.

 

edit: but Pheer and Minty should elaborate on this stuff, since I don't play the classes--but pheer does snipe with his gun, and I know that assasins are uuuuuuber squishy.

[Mister Jack]

Hey man. That's right from the horses mouth:

 

Well I say fuck that. If I want to use a pad, like you have an option in your game to do, I should be able to use a fucking pad.

 

I take it this means you tried and had a problem. What did you try to use? What happened?

[brida]

So Dean, how does m/kb compare to the gamepad? I've heard it's optimzed for pad, and my friend says that he can see that after playing it, but I don't really trust his judgement on things since he's a terrible gamer.

 

Also, what class are you settling on?

[deanb]

Assasin needs NERFING? In HEALTH? But...they have the lowest health. They get shredded to bits soooo so easily, even with armor and health. And gunner rips through everything, really.

 

Tank can fuckin snipe with his gun, not reaaaally a short range fighter.

 

edit: but Pheer and Minty should elaborate on this stuff, since I don't play the classes--but pheer does snipe with his gun, and I know that assasins are uuuuuuber squishy.

 

Bear in mind I'm discussing the PC version, which from what I understand from what Ethan has said has already had a few tweaks to the loadout already.

As it stands a assassin can make a beeline for a gunner, along the firing line and be alive to make the killing blow at the end.

Which to be frank is pretty fucking shitty.

 

Regarding game pads:

@Jack: I didn't have problems. Only problem I had at the time and for that reply was that I couldn't find the pad. I'd say the main issues with it are just shitty porting problems like the pad not controlling most of the main menu. In-Game I've not managed to have much play with it Just a skirmish in SP with Assault

 

@Brida: Yeah I'd say it's aimed for Pads. The action skills are kinda hard to pull off. If it was only two it'd be fine, but as it stands they're mapped to Q, E n Shift. I should maybe map them to my mouse in future, but you'd think they'd do that in the first place.

As I said to Jack, at the moment it's just your regular shitty Port issues.

[brida]

I'm going to take a wild guess that even in the PC version an assasin is not supposed to be able to do what you described. So I'm guessing either lag or you didn't shoot the assasin or you were already pretty hurt.

[deanb]

Not hurt, wouldn't matter since Assassin does one-shot kills.

Not lag either since this is from after I fixed my lag problem.

[brida]

Not actually true! You can survive a backstab--depends on how upgraded their ability is, and what endorsements you both have, as well as whether or not you're overhealed and how much.

 

Also I mean if they stabbed you in the face that's definitely not a one shot.

[deanb]

Well I definitely wasn't over healed.

I wouldn't exactly know where I was stabbed since it does the whole fancy animation jig when you are. (Which has cost the life of a couple other assassins when they do it to someone next to me and I just turn and kill them while the animation plays out. Note to developers: Yeah flamboyant animations look cool. But FFS don't put them in an MP game)

[TheMightyEthan]

No, the animation is part of the point. Assassin's aren't supposed to be mindless killing machines. The animation is SUPPOSED to allow the victim's teammate's to save him if the assassin is stupid and tries to kill someone in the middle of a group.

[brida]

Well not to mention that it just makes it nicer--the grapple is going to happen for that long anyway, might as well look at something cool during that time. Kinda the point of grabs in general, if you can't hold them for a wee bit then it's just like any other move.

 

Then again I have an appreaciation from them after watching Azo's videops on them, they're all moves he does! Also just a general appreaciation for the flexibility of the human body.

[Baguette]

If an assassin is able to run up into your face and kill you when you're a gunner, you are clearly doing something wrong. I don't think the assassin can one shot a gunner in the face at any point in time if he's at full health.

[TheMightyEthan]

Don't forget he's talking about the PC beta. There might be a glitch.

 

But yeah, even a fully-upgraded assassin shouldn't be able to face-grapple a gunner and kill him if he's at full health.

 

And dean, you can tell whether you got grappled from the front or back because the animation is different. If in the canned animation the assassin is attacking from the front then you got front-grappled, but if they are attacking from behind you got back-grappled.

[brida]

Also you'll remember the front grapple for sure, it's p embarrasing...she slaps you like 10 times If I didn't MOTHERFUCKING HATE ASSASINS WITH EVERY FIBER OF MY BEING then I would think it's hilarious.

[TheMightyEthan]

Assassins are cute. They think they can kill me.

 

I hate Snipers with a burning passion though.