Yantelope Posted December 29, 2010 Author Report Share Posted December 29, 2010 We can be friends again Jack. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheMightyEthan Posted December 29, 2010 Report Share Posted December 29, 2010 10. Call of Duty: Modern Warfare 2 9. Grand Theft Auto: San Andreas 8. Super Mario Galaxy 7. Gears of War 6. Street Fighter 4 5. StarCraft II 4. Uncharted 2 3. Burnout Paradise 2. God of War 1. COD: Black Ops Sorry, Hot Chops, but in terms of fun San Andreas was a step backward for the series. *Edit* - Crap, Jack got in before me. Now I have to rejigger my list... *Edit2* - That was hard, I wasn't too unhappy with the list as it was. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D-K Posted December 29, 2010 Report Share Posted December 29, 2010 (edited) That is a lie, in terms of fun GTA SA was miles ahead of Vice City. Mountains, parachutes, stunt jumps of hundreds of feet, air vehicles, intuitive infrastructure allowing highspeed chases, forests. The only thing that was really better about VC was the music and the story. In terms of gameplay SA beats VC with a dead horse Edited December 29, 2010 by D-K Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mister Jack Posted December 29, 2010 Report Share Posted December 29, 2010 (edited) Thanks for instantly negating my fucking move, Ethan. *Edit* Oh I see you changed it. Now we're friends again. :heart: Edited December 29, 2010 by Mister Jack Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yantelope Posted December 29, 2010 Author Report Share Posted December 29, 2010 I don't recall there being a noticiable difference between any of the PS2 GTAs beyond the setting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheMightyEthan Posted December 29, 2010 Report Share Posted December 29, 2010 That is a lie, in terms of fun GTA SA was miles ahead of Vice City. Mountains, parachutes, stunt jumps of hundreds of feet, air vehicles, intuitive infrastructure allowing highspeed chases, forests. The only thing that was really better about VC was the music and the story. In terms of gameplay SA beats VC with a dead horse Everything felt too small in SA. I know the map was huge (for the time), but instead of it being a huge city, it was several tiny-ass cities, spread way apart. Also, fuck the gang territories mechanic in the ass with a serrated dildo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D-K Posted December 29, 2010 Report Share Posted December 29, 2010 That is a lie, in terms of fun GTA SA was miles ahead of Vice City. Mountains, parachutes, stunt jumps of hundreds of feet, air vehicles, intuitive infrastructure allowing highspeed chases, forests. The only thing that was really better about VC was the music and the story. In terms of gameplay SA beats VC with a dead horse Everything felt too small in SA. I know the map was huge (for the time), but instead of it being a huge city, it was several tiny-ass cities, spread way apart. Also, fuck the gang territories mechanic in the ass with a serrated dildo. Alright, I'll give you the gang territory thing, I never played that segment of the game, but I can imagine how tedious it would've been. Are you seriously suggesting things felt small? The farm where you get the quad was about 1/4 of the entirety of VC, I mean come on! Come on! The myriad of ways in which fun could be had dwarved the potentially fun segments of VC. Dwarved, Ethan. Dwarved. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D-K Posted December 29, 2010 Report Share Posted December 29, 2010 (edited) 3 cities and some small villages. Brilliant infrastructure in the cities btw. Airports! It has airports! Multiple airports! what does VC have? A dock. A dock with a bigass ship that goes nowhere. My case, it rests Edited December 29, 2010 by D-K Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pheermee Posted December 29, 2010 Report Share Posted December 29, 2010 I am glad no one objects to SMG Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yantelope Posted December 29, 2010 Author Report Share Posted December 29, 2010 SMG wasn't a bad game but I didn't see what made it so much better than the bemoaned SMS. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheMightyEthan Posted December 29, 2010 Report Share Posted December 29, 2010 D-K, it felt small because in order to have that many cities and villages, each one had to be tiny. It was like being in the middle-of-fucking-nowhere, Kansas, just with tall buildings in the tiny-ass podunk towns. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheMightyEthan Posted December 29, 2010 Report Share Posted December 29, 2010 SMG wasn't a bad game but I didn't see what made it so much better than the bemoaned SMS. I actually like SMS, even though FLUDD was stupid and irritating. SMG was just too easy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yantelope Posted December 29, 2010 Author Report Share Posted December 29, 2010 I liked SMS fine too and I liked SMG. I just think it's funny how one is a total letdown and one is a GOTY. I don't see the difference. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheMightyEthan Posted December 29, 2010 Report Share Posted December 29, 2010 Oh yeah, I enjoyed SMG quite a bit, just thought that it was too easy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chewblaha Posted December 29, 2010 Report Share Posted December 29, 2010 (edited) That is a lie, in terms of fun GTA SA was miles ahead of Vice City. Mountains, parachutes, stunt jumps of hundreds of feet, air vehicles, intuitive infrastructure allowing highspeed chases, forests. The only thing that was really better about VC was the music and the story. Quote for TRUUUUUUUUUUUUUTH. Oh woops. 10. Call of Duty: Modern Warfare 2 9. Minecraft 8. Super Mario Galaxy 7. Gears of War 6. Street Fighter 4 5. StarCraft II 4. Uncharted 2 3. Burnout Paradise 2. God of War 1. Call of Duty: Black Ops Edited December 29, 2010 by Chewblaha Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D-K Posted December 29, 2010 Report Share Posted December 29, 2010 (edited) The cities were not tiny at all, the south-airport alone took almost a minute to cross at full speed in a cheetah. There is just no reasoning with you. Besides, how does something feeling small take away from the fu- ow hahahaha.. almost walked right into that. Never mind, let's agree to disagree. Even though I'm right. As in me being the bigger man. .. Y'know.. because you're wrong. Edited December 29, 2010 by D-K Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chewblaha Posted December 29, 2010 Report Share Posted December 29, 2010 I remember the trailer park with the jump ramp being pretty big for a trailer park. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HotChops Posted December 29, 2010 Report Share Posted December 29, 2010 (edited) I don't recall there being a noticiable difference between any of the PS2 GTAs beyond the setting. With all due respect, I found the differences as notable as night and day. Allow me to enlighten: GTA III - placed franchise in 3D world, core gameplay remains unchanged from the original top-down GTA - added real world music to radio stations - a more flushed out story compared to previous two games GTA Vice City - slightly revamped combat system - smarter and more aggressive (dare I say too aggressive) police AI - addition of helicopters - addition of a vocal protagonist - addition of purchasable/unlockable clothing - addition of various weapons/tools - tweaked physics that failed miserably; resulted in goofy animations and the ability to die if you "fell" off a 3-foot patio - added the ability to shoot out tires GTA San Andreas - largest vehicle selection of every GTA game before and since, including helicopters, planes, boats, bicycles, lawn mowers and jetpacks - added the ability to paint, customize and enhance cars - more mission variety, including things like flying remote-control vehicles and even participating in a triatholon across the map - largest GTA map to date, including three distinct (and large) cities, and countryside/desert between them. - added the ability to recruit gang members to aid in missions (a flawed mechanic that I think Volition refined well in Saints Row) - longest and most robust story of all GTA games to-date - added the ability to change the protagonist's body by working out or pigging out - drastically refined combat/aiming system - refined the flawed physics of Vice City - balanced the enemy AI - introduced specific hit areas on vehicles; tires can be shot out, gas tank can be targeted for one-hit-explosion - included a camera for taking/saving photos. You can also hand the camera to a friendly NPC and have him photograph you I could go on and on, but to summarize -- San Andreas was a significant improvement to what was already a great game, and it pushed the Playstation 2 hardware to it's limits. Edited December 29, 2010 by HotChops Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yantelope Posted December 29, 2010 Author Report Share Posted December 29, 2010 A fair few of those seem somewhat incremental but by today's standards that's become much more commonplace. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RadiantViper Posted December 29, 2010 Report Share Posted December 29, 2010 (edited) >San Andreas >Incremental Changes Anywho ... 10. Call of Duty: Modern Warfare 2 9. Minecraft 8. Mass Effect 2 7. Gears of War 6. Street Fighter 4 5. StarCraft II 4. Uncharted 2 3. Burnout Paradise 2. God of War 1. Call of Duty: Black Ops (I did that correctly, yes?) Edited December 29, 2010 by RadiantViper Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D-K Posted December 29, 2010 Report Share Posted December 29, 2010 Oh snap, that's gonna cause a ruckus. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pheermee Posted December 29, 2010 Report Share Posted December 29, 2010 Well at least Uncharted 2 is still on there Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yantelope Posted December 29, 2010 Author Report Share Posted December 29, 2010 Where's the Oh Snap! Emoticon? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HotChops Posted December 29, 2010 Report Share Posted December 29, 2010 Oh snap, that's gonna cause a ruckus. Are you kidding? I was prepared for that. Although most people on this board are fans of Mass Effect and TES: Oblivion, I've been repeatedly surprised by the amount of criticism they get from those same people. I don't think either game is perfect either, but some of you guys have posted massive lists of things you felt were major flaws. I don't know if I think ME2 is overrated, but I do think that it's experiencing that phenomenon whereby people don't play the first game in a series, come in on the second or third installment, and then rave about the game while oblivious to the merits of their predecessors. For example, ME2 definitely has better framerate, and better combat. But almost everyone I know who's finished ME 1 and 2 feels like the story of ME1 was better. You can always tell when someone didn't finish ME1 because they'll gush on ME2's story without mentioning the first game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Jimmeh Posted December 29, 2010 Report Share Posted December 29, 2010 10. Call of Duty: Modern Warfare 2 9. Minecraft 8. Mass Effect 2 7. Gears of War 6. Street Fighter 4 5. StarCraft II 4. Uncharted 2 3. Grand Theft Auto: San Andreas 2. God of War 1. Call of Duty: Black Ops --- I honestly preferred Vice City. San Andreas when I played it was repetitive, especially with the body-building "mini-games". Also the graphics just didn't seem to be as good as VC, and the whole place was just seemed to be covered in a lot of fog. Plus the radio stations were better in Vice City. SC was traded in pretty quickly by me to get Metal Gear Solid 3. Also I really enjoyed Burnout: Paradise, though it could've done with having Crash mode. I do miss that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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