Thursday Next Posted October 25, 2012 Report Share Posted October 25, 2012 Isn't Kool-Aid a concentrated drink that you dilute with water? This video has made me hungry. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheMightyEthan Posted October 25, 2012 Report Share Posted October 25, 2012 No, Kool-Aid comes in a powder. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deanb Posted October 25, 2012 Author Report Share Posted October 25, 2012 We also have multiple foods, and import/export food stuff. There's a chunk shown in the video. So I'm talking about food in general. As for the stores, yeah we have M&S n Waitrose n such as our high-end, but she just shopped in an ASDA which is about equivalent to..well.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faiblesse Des Sens Posted October 25, 2012 Report Share Posted October 25, 2012 In that case I think her comparison was off for some of the things. Walmart is scary cheap compared to other places depending on what you're buying. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MasterDex Posted October 25, 2012 Report Share Posted October 25, 2012 Â Someone looking for cheap food? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheMightyEthan Posted October 25, 2012 Report Share Posted October 25, 2012 In my experience Walmart tends to be cheaper for prepackaged stuff like frozen pizza and whatnot, but that it's more expensive for anything "better'. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deanb Posted October 25, 2012 Author Report Share Posted October 25, 2012 Yeah Aldi n Lidl are pretty cheap, and local suppliers can be even cheaper still. But general supermarket stuff Asda n Tesco are the bigguns. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheMightyEthan Posted October 25, 2012 Report Share Posted October 25, 2012 I have a friend who insists on calling it "Aldi's". It bugs the crap out of me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheFlyingGerbil Posted October 25, 2012 Report Share Posted October 25, 2012 I think that's very common for shops because so many of them are called [names]'s. Â An awful lot of people call Tesco Tesco's and J Sainsbury just gave up in the end and is now called Sainsbury's. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MasterDex Posted October 25, 2012 Report Share Posted October 25, 2012 We don't have a Tesco in our small town. We do have 2 Aldi and 2 Lidl stores though! . Each within a mile of each other - with one pair, being right across the street from one another. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deanb Posted October 25, 2012 Author Report Share Posted October 25, 2012 This normally says quite a lot about the local area. (For example we have the fancy Greggs as well as half a dozen other greggs) Â Oh and the [store]'s thing is likely part of the previously mentioned "company is/are". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faiblesse Des Sens Posted October 25, 2012 Report Share Posted October 25, 2012 How big is greenwashing over there? As in an attempt to make everything see environmentally friendly even when it's really not. We also have a gluten free fad going on over here so we see tons of food labeled as gluten free even when it's unbelievably obvious. You mean this apple is gluten free? Holy shit! Anything like that? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deanb Posted October 25, 2012 Author Report Share Posted October 25, 2012 Well most stores have the "Bags for Life" and Tesco offer Green points if you bring your own bags. Sainburies made a point of reducing the packaging in their products too. Beyond that not much. As for Gluten-free I'm not gluten intolerant so I wouldn't know. They did recently agree to pick a single labelling system though (but that's more for health levels of a food). Not yet fully formalised. Unsure if it would include marking products as gluten free though. Apples (and most fruit) just tend to be labelled with the type (As in granny smith) and price. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faiblesse Des Sens Posted October 25, 2012 Report Share Posted October 25, 2012 I'm not gluten intolerant either, that's how rampant it is. Which is good for them, but it's stupid that it took a fad diet to put that on more packaging, and then they went too extreme and started putting it on stuff that obviously is GF. Â So over there there's no blatantly obvious attempts to sell things that are "natural" and "organic" and "earth friendly" when they clearly aren't? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deanb Posted October 25, 2012 Author Report Share Posted October 25, 2012 Oh there's plenty of Organic options if you've got the pennies. Nothing that clearly isn't though, the various agencies involved would be down on the store/company like a ton of bricks if incorrectly labelled. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faiblesse Des Sens Posted October 25, 2012 Report Share Posted October 25, 2012 Yeah but how loose are your regulations for what is and is not considered organic? Here they're pretty loose so you have to pay attention what organic label it has as each organization has different standards. Â You know, maybe the greenwashing is just working on you? =p Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deanb Posted October 25, 2012 Author Report Share Posted October 25, 2012 Well we have DEFRA and organic labelling/production is under EU regulations. Generally no GM crops or chemical pesticides(there's a couple of exceptions in that though) and fertilisers(so use manure n such instead). The usual. Â And I don't buy organic, so it can't be "working on just you". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faiblesse Des Sens Posted October 25, 2012 Report Share Posted October 25, 2012 Working as in you might not be aware of scrupulous green labeling practices. Then again, if it's under EU regulations, I assume that shit is a bit tighter than our more business influenced regulations? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fuchikoma Posted October 25, 2012 Report Share Posted October 25, 2012 I'm guessing what FDS is getting at is that we have a lot of labelling that suggests environmentally friendly/sustainable/pesticide-free/fair-trade etc practices, but if the wording is not just right, then it doesn't necessarily have to be certified to claim it. Also, lots of taking advantage of ignorance, like the assumption that organic crops wouldn't have had pesticides used, when it really just restricts it to certain ones and so on. Â Or maybe things like "and $0.10 from every purchase goes to plant trees in Brazil" making little overall difference compared to the product itself, but giving the consumers something to feel good about for "making a difference." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deanb Posted October 25, 2012 Author Report Share Posted October 25, 2012 I get what FDS is getting at, just pointing it out doesn't really happen much, regulation is pretty strict around these parts. We do have Fairtrade products though, especially in Co-Op. Sustainability regulation and certification is provided by FSC. And so on so forth for all kinds of food and product claims. We can get pretty stingy if you lie about your product. If you make a claim you better be able to back it up; not allowed to mislead or deceive consumers. Not that most folks care what environmental perks there are, especially over past few years. Regular is cheaper than organic & co so organic & co sales fall. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheFlyingGerbil Posted October 26, 2012 Report Share Posted October 26, 2012 In the UK, there was something in the news this last week about mainstream chocolate (e.g., kit kats and the like rather than 'posh' chocolates) with fairtrade labels plastered all over them. They're designed for people to think the chocolate is fairtrade, but are using something called the mass balance system, which means if a large company buys 90% normal cocoa beans, and 10% fairtrade, mix them all together, they can label 10% of their products as fairtrade even though the particular product they label as fairtrade will have hardly any fairtrade chocolate in it and indeed no more than the other 90% of the products they cannot label fairtrade. That makes it pretty hard for people to make an informed decision so I'd guess that is an example of UK greenwashing. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hot Heart Posted October 29, 2012 Report Share Posted October 29, 2012 OK, this is an odd one, but a cursory search suggested there was a difference. Â In the UK we have sultanas and raisins, where sultanas are from white grapes and raisins are from black grapes, while it seems the US calls them all raisins. Is that correct? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheFlyingGerbil Posted October 30, 2012 Report Share Posted October 30, 2012 Raisins and sultanas are both from white grapes - sultanas are less dried out so lighter in colour, softer and juicier. Â Currants are from red grapes and are the driest of the three being smaller and quite hard. Â That's all in the UK. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheMightyEthan Posted October 30, 2012 Report Share Posted October 30, 2012 I'm gonna go with "yes" given that of those three terms the only one I'm familiar with is "raisins". 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheRevanchist Posted October 30, 2012 Report Share Posted October 30, 2012 The yellow raisins are referred to as goldens or golden raisins by the main producer (Sun-Maid) in the US. The hard, small dark raisins are called raisins. Â I have both in my pantry for baking, and I live 20 minutes from the raisin capital of the world. I can find raisins at all of the farmer's markets around here. Â Â Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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