English vs English

[deanb]

So I know americans say "route"("this is the route you take to the shop") as "rowt" instead of "root" like we do. But how do you pronounce router as in the box that routes internet around a network? We call it a root-er, but if you guys continue the "rowt" it'd become rowter, which is how we'd pronounce the name of the woodworking tool, router.

[TheFlyingGerbil]

can I add in "rout" as in a defeat, on the  end of there?

[TheMightyEthan]

Actually, some Americans say rowt, some say root, though being among the rowt crowd it bugs the crap out of me whenever someone says root.

 

In my experience though everyone pronounces router (both as in the networking equipment and the shop tool) as rowter, and "rout" as in "defeat" is pronounced rowt by everyone I've ever heard say it as well.

[deanb]

So the bottom of a plant is the only thing you call a "root"?

[TheMightyEthan]

Well, anything spelled root, like square root, but yes.

[Saturnine Tenshi]

I pronounce "colour" as "caloor".

[TheMightyEthan]

That how I read it in my head, even though I know it's supposed to be pronounced the way I would pronounce "color".  The u just emphasizes the second syllable for me because I'm not used to seeing it.

 

Unrelated:  I've noticed and find it interesting that it seems that people on the west coast of the US put a "the" in front of highway names, such as saying "the I-10" instead of just "I-10" like we would here.  Saying "the I-10" sounds as awkward to me as saying something like "the Rodeo Drive" or "the Broadway" would.

 

*Edit* - As far as location for that, I've inferred it's west coast from TV and movies, but I could be wrong about where it's actually prevalent.

Edited June 27, 2013 by TheMightyEthan

[Thursday Next]

Surely that's down to there being one I-95, so "The" I-95 while there are multiple "Broadway Drives", "Rosemary Avenues" and such?

 

I assume you say "The USA" and "The UK".

Edited June 27, 2013 by Thursday Next

[deanb]

We use "the" for numerical names. So like "take the A1 south", but street names would be on their own "Then turn left onto marigold drive". Though I guess there's a few named roads with "the" on the end but tends to be unofficial names, like "the roman road" and "the tank road".

[TheMightyEthan]

Surely that's down to there being one I-95, so "The" I-95 while there are multiple "Broadway Drives", "Rosemary Avenues" and such?

Maybe that's why they say it the way they do, but around here it's just "Go West on I-70 until you get to 77, and take that south until you get to 254" or whatever, no the's.

 

Something else I just realized I never thought about is that in that example 77 is a US highway (technically "US 77") and 254 is a Kansas highway (technically "K-254"), but the only highways we put any kind of indicator on are the interstates where we say the "I", county roads the name of the county before the number, and then a few specific state roads (like K-15 is always "K-15", never just "15").  US highways we never say "US" before the number, and most state highways we don't say the K.

 

I assume you say "The USA" and "The UK".

Yes, we do say that.

[Thursday Next]

We use "the" for numerical names. So like "take the A1 south", but street names would be on their own "Then turn left onto marigold drive". Though I guess there's a few named roads with "the" on the end but tends to be unofficial names, like "the roman road" and "the tank road".

 

Same principle, there's only one M25 (thank the gods), so it's "The M25". If you were to read the initial in full then it would sound odd "The motorway twenty five". Just down to preference I suppose.

[Saturnine Tenshi]

@Ethan: If in the presence of people who spell it like that, I'll say it like that mockingly.

[TheFlyingGerbil]

 

Should "the" have its own symbol (as "and" does with &)?

 

The symbol he spent so much money on is hella ugly, and looks unbalanced.

 

I'm guessing there's not a chance in hell something like that would catch on. It seems so unnecessary.

[Saturnine Tenshi]

Eww.

[deanb]

Remember a few years ago that company tried to come up with a sarcasm mark (and charge for it?). That became super useful and popular didn't it.

[Hot Heart]

Yeah, it'll never catch on. Not to mention the fact that the ampersand has a long history going right back to when Romans were writing latin.

[TheMightyEthan]

@Dean:  Yep, people were obviously willing to pay money to not have to type "/sarcasm".

 

/sarcasm

 

@Hot Heart:  Yeah, isn't "&" just "et" run together and then mangled over thousands of years?

[Hot Heart]

@Hot Heart:  Yeah, isn't "&" just "et" run together and then mangled over thousands of years?

 

Yeah, I recall someone posting about it a while back (could've been me?). Something to do with that, and that it used to be part of the alphabet as 'and per se'.

[TheMightyEthan]

"X, Y, Z, and, per se, and"

[Saturnine Tenshi]

Yeah, the name is from the end of the alphabet (when recited), and the form is from Et.

[Faiblesse Des Sens]

Second party is not a term. People need to stop that.

[TheMightyEthan]

Second party = made by non-first-party studio and published by platform owner. Nothing wrong with the term.

[Faiblesse Des Sens]

Second party = made by non-first-party studio and published by platform owner. Nothing wrong with the term.

 

That's third party. There's plenty wrong with the term.

[TheMightyEthan]

Third party is published by someone other than the platform owner.

[Mr. GOH!]

Language constantly changes and evolved, FDS. Your desire to contain and control it implies deep and troubling character flaws that I suggest you examine before they consume you.

Edited September 5, 2013 by Mr. GOH!