deanb Posted August 13, 2014 Author Report Share Posted August 13, 2014 Yeah click "Search Tools" and there's a box you can change your location and such, It's down to a town/city level (you'd have to change from .co.uk to get other countries). I have to use it a fair bit at work. So my search for an "Indian restaurant" would be different from Kenshis n Hot Hearts cos we're in different areas. Can also change based on your Google+ stuff as well. On Uptalk: Ethans video made me none the wiser but certainly served to infuriate. Stupid youtube editing shit that has been a thing way too long. Room 101 sort of explained it, though more as "how Australians speak". Never seen it over here mind. My young sister occasionally puts on a stupid as shit High School Musical inspired american accent, but I wouldn't think it's "a thing". It's like putting on any accent (which of course nobody does....) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SomTervo Posted August 13, 2014 Report Share Posted August 13, 2014 (edited) I know, I meant I wonder specificallyhow much they change the results. Obviously they do it.Clearly high level semantic stuff like that is up for swapsies. Not just what local companies/ locations/ events show up. On uptalk: when it first kicked about for me was when it was connected to the American "valley girl" accent. All it means is tone of voice going up at the end of sentences, similar to if the sentence was a question. Willow in Buffy the Vampire Slayer was the absolute worst for it. Edited August 13, 2014 by kenshi_ryden Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheMightyEthan Posted August 13, 2014 Report Share Posted August 13, 2014 It's not the accent, it's the way her inflection rises at the end of each phrase. That's what uptalk is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheMightyEthan Posted August 13, 2014 Report Share Posted August 13, 2014 So my wife's coworker, who's diabetic, just went to Canada, and apparently you guys don't really have sugar free desserts there? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faiblesse Des Sens Posted August 14, 2014 Report Share Posted August 14, 2014 I know, I meant I wonder specificallyhow much they change the results. Obviously they do it.Clearly high level semantic stuff like that is up for swapsies. Not just what local companies/ locations/ events show up. On uptalk: when it first kicked about for me was when it was connected to the American "valley girl" accent. All it means is tone of voice going up at the end of sentences, similar to if the sentence was a question. Willow in Buffy the Vampire Slayer was the absolute worst for it. Not sure how I can say that I know this without breaking a NDA but trust me things are extremely tailored to each region. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TCP Posted August 14, 2014 Report Share Posted August 14, 2014 (edited) So my wife's coworker, who's diabetic, just went to Canada, and apparently you guys don't really have sugar free desserts there? Sugar... free? Oh have we talked about the way some Americans say "roof"? I know Americans like to rip on Canadians for saying "aboot" (which, as a west coaster, I have NEVER heard anyone say aboot unless they're being ironic), but I hear Americans all the time saying "rough" for "roof". I heard it first in Home Improvement as a kid (from Tim the Toolman Taylor) but lately I've heard it more often. It's weird, and sounds stupid. Edited August 14, 2014 by The Cowboy Poet 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheMightyEthan Posted August 14, 2014 Report Share Posted August 14, 2014 So my wife's coworker, who's diabetic, just went to Canada, and apparently you guys don't really have sugar free desserts there? Sugar... free? Desserts with no sugar. I'm not sure if you're joking or if you really don't have them. We did talk about the roof thing, I even made a recording demonstrating how it's a different sound from rough. http://forum.pressxordie.com/topic/420-english-vs-english/page-10#entry37039 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deanb Posted August 14, 2014 Author Report Share Posted August 14, 2014 I know, I meant I wonder specificallyhow much they change the results. Obviously they do it.Clearly high level semantic stuff like that is up for swapsies. Not just what local companies/ locations/ events show up. On uptalk: when it first kicked about for me was when it was connected to the American "valley girl" accent. All it means is tone of voice going up at the end of sentences, similar to if the sentence was a question. Willow in Buffy the Vampire Slayer was the absolute worst for it. Not sure how I can say that I know this without breaking a NDA but trust me things are extremely tailored to each region. Not really any NDAs could be broken given Google are quite open about search factors. Unless you were to somehow spill the beans on Panda and Penguin inner workings, but it's go over most folks heads I feel, and neither of those are geographically tailored (and Pigeon isn't officially a thing). Oh on the sugar free thing, not sure there's much over here either (here's an Asda result for "sugar free". I'm to understand US has a pretty abnormal diabetes rate which would obviously help sway market towards sugarfree products. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheFlyingGerbil Posted August 14, 2014 Report Share Posted August 14, 2014 sugar free means sweeteners, which are much worse for you than sugar. Best to have the real, natural product, just in moderation. I've never seen sugar free desserts at a restaurant, only things I've seen marked as a healthy option at a restaurant are starters and mains - I guess they expect to have some restraint and skip the dessert if you are watching your weight/diabetic. I guess that's not the American way, though? Not much in supermarkets either, only things like yoghurt and drinks but it's a bit of a push to call a yoghurt a dessert. Even then healthy yoghurts are usually marketed as low fat, not low sugar and in fact usually have a truck load of sugar in, which kind of annoys me because they're far from healthy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheMightyEthan Posted August 14, 2014 Report Share Posted August 14, 2014 We don't typically have much sugar free stuff at restaurants (other than diet sodas), but there's all kinds of packaged stuff at the supermarket. Though there's also a lot of stuff that's like you said, low fat but with tons of sugar. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. GOH! Posted August 14, 2014 Report Share Posted August 14, 2014 (edited) TCP: Yes, Americans who pronounce 'roof' so it almost sounds like 'rough' are wrong and likely hicks from the sticks. It should have a long 'ooooooooooo' sound in it. Non-sugar sweeteners are fine for the vast majority of people. Don't be an alarmist, Gerbil. Edited August 14, 2014 by Mr. GOH! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheMightyEthan Posted August 14, 2014 Report Share Posted August 14, 2014 Anyone who says roof with a long ooooo sound sounds like a dork. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hot Heart Posted August 14, 2014 Report Share Posted August 14, 2014 Anyone who doesn't sounds like a dog. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheMightyEthan Posted August 14, 2014 Report Share Posted August 14, 2014 Lol, see to me the long o sounds more like a dog (albeit a big dog) than the short o does. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faiblesse Des Sens Posted August 15, 2014 Report Share Posted August 15, 2014 I know, I meant I wonder specificallyhow much they change the results. Obviously they do it.Clearly high level semantic stuff like that is up for swapsies. Not just what local companies/ locations/ events show up. On uptalk: when it first kicked about for me was when it was connected to the American "valley girl" accent. All it means is tone of voice going up at the end of sentences, similar to if the sentence was a question. Willow in Buffy the Vampire Slayer was the absolute worst for it. Not sure how I can say that I know this without breaking a NDA but trust me things are extremely tailored to each region. Not really any NDAs could be broken given Google are quite open about search factors. Unless you were to somehow spill the beans on Panda and Penguin inner workings, but it's go over most folks heads I feel, and neither of those are geographically tailored (and Pigeon isn't officially a thing). Oh on the sugar free thing, not sure there's much over here either (here's an Asda result for "sugar free". I'm to understand US has a pretty abnormal diabetes rate which would obviously help sway market towards sugarfree products. That page doesn't paint the whole picture for how search engines do what they do. Well, it does, but it doesn't go into details about the inner workings. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheMightyEthan Posted August 15, 2014 Report Share Posted August 15, 2014 One difference that always jumps out at me for some reason is how British people will say something is "different to" something else, while Americans will say it's "different from/different than". Obviously it doesn't create any confusion, it's just interesting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SomTervo Posted August 15, 2014 Report Share Posted August 15, 2014 Preposition stuff. I hate prepositions and preposition phrases. 90% of it, like that to/than/from distinction, is meaningless. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faiblesse Des Sens Posted August 16, 2014 Report Share Posted August 16, 2014 One difference that always jumps out at me for some reason is how British people will say something is "different to" something else, while Americans will say it's "different from/different than". Obviously it doesn't create any confusion, it's just interesting. What about "I like ____ better than" rather than "I like ____ more than"? Is that an American thing or are people just bad at English? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deanb Posted August 23, 2014 Author Report Share Posted August 23, 2014 So here is one I've known for a while, Mals post in Alcholo trigger me to post. The difference in cans used. You guys use the size of cans we'd use for pop (330ml versus 500ml). Sometimes we even have pint cans too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheMightyEthan Posted August 23, 2014 Report Share Posted August 23, 2014 We have both sizes, although you're right that the 12 oz size is more common (and is also used for soda). We actually also have other sizes beyond those two. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
staySICK Posted August 23, 2014 Report Share Posted August 23, 2014 The women's clothing piece is also called suspenders here. But the word "suspenders" conjures up the men's trouser-suspension piece of clothing to the vast majority of Americans. Fun fact: neo-nazi skinheads in the US call them bracers, though, at least in the 70s, 80s, and 90s. fun fact #1: bracers are slightly different than suspenders. fun fact #2: not all skinheads are racist. Non racist skinheads also are prone to wearing bracers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheFlyingGerbil Posted August 29, 2014 Report Share Posted August 29, 2014 What do all you people call the first and last slice of a loaf of bread? I call it a heel, but only on pre-sliced loaves, on ones you cut yourself, I'd call it the crust or the end, depending on the shape. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deanb Posted August 29, 2014 Author Report Share Posted August 29, 2014 I call it the crust. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheMightyEthan Posted August 29, 2014 Report Share Posted August 29, 2014 The heel. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheMightyEthan Posted August 30, 2014 Report Share Posted August 30, 2014 So I'm at the Kansas City Irish Music Festival and learned a new one: apparently "articulated lorry" = "semi". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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