TCP Posted November 18, 2013 Report Share Posted November 18, 2013 So it's implied in there that the 10th Doctor and Rose are in fact the 10th and Rose from the past, not from the alternate dimension where they're stuck. Which don't make no sense because THE DOCTOR'S HAIR IS ALL WRONG! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deanb Posted November 20, 2013 Author Report Share Posted November 20, 2013 http://www.bbcamerica.com/doctor-who/videos/what-would-matt-smith-steal-from-the-tenth-doctor/ http://www.bbcamerica.com/doctor-who/videos/what-would-david-tennant-steal-from-the-eleventh-doctor/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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deanb Posted November 21, 2013 Author Report Share Posted November 21, 2013 https://www.google.co.nz/ Google Doodle for 50th Anniversary. With a mini game too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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deanb Posted November 22, 2013 Author Report Share Posted November 22, 2013 Fall of Arcadia eh? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TCP Posted November 23, 2013 Report Share Posted November 23, 2013 (edited) I just watched An Adventure in Space and Time. It was really good! David Bradley is a fantastic actor and I got a whole lot of respect for William Hartnell after watching that. Matt Smith's cameo at the end: tear jerking. I never realized Sydney Newman was Canadian. This lends more credence to my proposal of a Doctor Who spinoff where a new Time Lord has a TARDIS that's stuck as a moose. Each episode will take place in another Canadian metropolis, like Vancouver, Montreal, Toronto, or ummm... Regina. Seriously though, I'd still still love to see David Bradley appear on Doctor Who as the First Doctor. Maybe one day. Edited November 23, 2013 by The Cowboy Poet Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deanb Posted November 23, 2013 Author Report Share Posted November 23, 2013 Just finished watching it. Quite good, and yeah Bradley was cracking. McGann recently tweeted high praise for him. Even if you don't care much for Doctor Who it's still a good watch, I imagine there's a few GoT viewers that'd be fond of seeing him in something else. And it wouldn't surprise me if they were to do a multi-doctor story of sorts in the future that Bradley would be chosen. Though I guess it might throw it off a bit if we know of him as playing the actor that played the Doctor. If you get me. Only two hours to go. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toxicitizen Posted November 23, 2013 Report Share Posted November 23, 2013 (edited) Oh man, for some reason I thought the special was airing tomorrow. So I figured I'd download the season finale to watch tonight. Then I find out it's actually today! Maybe I'll just make it a double feature! Edited November 23, 2013 by FLD Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TCP Posted November 23, 2013 Report Share Posted November 23, 2013 THAT WAS GOOD! TOM BAKER!!! PETER CAPALDI! CHRISTMAS!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deanb Posted November 23, 2013 Author Report Share Posted November 23, 2013 Well that explains a bit of: "The best time to plant a tree is 400 hundred years ago. The second best time to plant a tree is still four hundred years ago" - The Doctor. Kind of really looks bad on Eccleston tbh. There's a "I don't want to be typecast" and then theres "I won't join in on the 50th anniversary of a show I helped revive, and even the oldest surviving doctor will pop along, and I can't stand where John Hurt was stood for just 10 seconds". There's a few moments in the episode where his lack is having to kind of just be ignored to carry on. Holy fuck they've decided to reverse their decision to have Gallifrey and the Time Lords gone forever. With End of Time it'd always seemed like they were putting a pin in Gallifrey staying away for good. Of course this brings with it other issues, since it has in the past been implied that The Moment wrapped up the Time War in a nice tidy time locked pocket universe to just not affect the main universe anymore, and thus with it all the nasties of the Time War. However this episode makes The Moment more of a super-WMD, and it's effects are just replicated by popping Gallifrey out of time for a while and letting the Daleks attacking Gallifrey wipe each other out. Edit: Also the trailer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hot Heart Posted November 23, 2013 Report Share Posted November 23, 2013 I never realized Sydney Newman was Canadian. This lends more credence to my proposal of a Doctor Who spinoff where a new Time Lord has a TARDIS that's stuck as a moose. Each episode will take place in another Canadian metropolis, like Vancouver, Montreal, Toronto, or ummm... Regina. Mark Meer for the next Doctor? I should go... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TCP Posted November 24, 2013 Report Share Posted November 24, 2013 "I'm The Doctor and this is my favourite TARDIS on Gallifrey." Agreed with Dean. I don't understand why you'd take a role like Doctor Who, and refuse to ever go beyond the one season. Didn't anyone tell him there's a long tradition of actors, who frankly are more well regarded than he is, returning to the show? Anyways, our local "cinema" is showing this on Monday, got my tickets earlier today! Can't wait to watch it again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toxicitizen Posted November 24, 2013 Report Share Posted November 24, 2013 Oh man, that was so, soooo good. Felt really good to see Tennant in those clothes again. Quite different from what I expected, though. And yeah, it is really strange that Eccleston wasn't in it. There were quite a few moments where having him there would've just made it all so much more awesome. A few things kinda bugged me, though. Maybe you guys can help fill in the blanks. The opening scene confused the hell out of me. What the hell did I miss? I figured they'd still be stuck in the timestream from the end of last season. I was under the impression that getting out of there wasn't exactly going to be trivial. Did I miss a special prequel short or did it just happen off-camera? Also, wasn't Gallifrey being stuck in a time lock something that was already established? The way they kept talking about how he killed everyone kinda confused me and that they bring the idea as some kind of new reveal even more so. The quick glimpse of Capaldi was pretty unexpected and cool, though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TCP Posted November 24, 2013 Report Share Posted November 24, 2013 FLD: Yeah I thought Galifrey was already in a time bubble thingy with the Daleks, and The End of Time was the Time Lords trying to escape? Or maybe that was just a small group of Time Lords? Timothy Dalton's character Rassilon wasn't present, and the main time lord was referred to as The General. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toxicitizen Posted November 24, 2013 Report Share Posted November 24, 2013 Yeah, the very second we saw the Gallifrey War Room, my first thought was "Ohh, it'd be cool if they got Timothy Dalton back." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deanb Posted November 24, 2013 Author Report Share Posted November 24, 2013 @FLD It was quite heavily implied the Doctor went and saved her from his timestream at the end. It would have been hard for her, but it's his timestream. Moffat has a habit of not showing everything on screen. The lore of new Who is that The Time War itself was time locked. In part due to the effect of The Moment. Thus meaning anything outside and inside the time War can't affect either the Time War or the larger universe/reality. What has now happened is that Gallifrey itself has been shunted into a time frozen pocket universe instead of obliterated. Which it would seem the new mission of the Doctor is to find Gallifrey again and restore it.* As for Rassilon he's with the Council, it was established very early on in the episode by the General in talking to a subordinate that the Council were off planning thier own things (as we have already seen in End of Time). The Council was in the Capital, and this episode was mostly set in Arcadia. *Of course this creates a bit of a problem, the Time War involved slightly more than just Daleks and Gallifrey, which is why in End of Time Ten had Gallifrey sent back into the Time War. Given The Moment has now not been used, sure Gallifrey survives and the Daleks attacking Gallifrey get wiped out, but the Time Lock never happens. So the only way around that is to either ignore that minor/major plothole or retcon it a bit that the actions of the Time War itself lock it up. What they should have done is shunted Gallifrey into pocket universe and still had the Moment used, thus wiping out Daleks and other Time War combatants, time locking the Time War, and then still allowing for Gallifrey to have lived on and pulled out of it's frozen state. Also due to End of Time it means that The Master was on Gallifrey at the time of the Doctors doing their thing, so they get Gallifrey back, The Master comes back too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toxicitizen Posted November 24, 2013 Report Share Posted November 24, 2013 Shit, man, you sure know your Who. Thanks for the clarifications. I don't exactly expect perfect consistency from a series with such a long and convoluted history but that kinda seemed a bit too blatant, so I figured there had to be some details I was missing. And I hadn't even considered that The Master can now come back! That would be great, he's one of my favorite villains. Oh and have there been any kind of hints or whatever as to what we can expect from Capaldi's run? I really liked how darker Smith's run felt. Not just with the stories and villains but also with the Doctor himself at times. It was much more compelling, imho. I also loved how his first two seasons had an almost serialized main arc to them. Main reason I was disappointed with the last season was the move away from that format. So I really hope those two aspects carry on with 13. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FMW Posted November 25, 2013 Report Share Posted November 25, 2013 Hey guys! I fell off the Doctor Who train a season or two ago. Amy Pond was lame, River Song was lame, Stephen Moffat's big season long mysteries were lame, and Matt Smith's excellence wasn't enough to keep me going. But now I understand Matt Smith is out and somebody new is in. There was a big anniversary special, there's a series of audio stories starring the 8th doctor which resolved in Night of the Doctor, and in the last episode of the last regular season there was this big reveal of the SECRET DOCTOR. So I wanna get back into Doctor Who now, but I have NO idea what's going on and what's good and where I can watch/listen to things to get caught up. Could one of you Doctor Who fans please break down what's good, what's not good, what's important to the ongoing story, and where I can find what I need? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deanb Posted November 25, 2013 Author Report Share Posted November 25, 2013 I guess if you're not wanting much in the way of Pond's then you'll want to watch Aslyum of the Daleks, it introduces current companion. then skip the first half of that series and watch last years Christmas Special The Snowmen and onwards to the rest of series 7, which culminates in the reveal of the "secret Doctor" and into this special. Series 7 was a bit weird in that it was split in half to the point of almost being two series'. And since as part of this you'll likely have skipped the most ongoing arc here's the main "prophecy" driving it: On the Fields of Trenzalore, at the fall of the Eleventh, when no living creature can speak falsely or fail to answer, a question will be asked, a question that must never ever be answered; "Doctor who?" Which has sort of been covered a bit already at the end of this series, and coming up in the Christmas Special. Oh as for the special that aired this weekend keep in mind that it's also a 50th anniversary special so has quite a few self references. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FMW Posted November 25, 2013 Report Share Posted November 25, 2013 Thank you much Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TCP Posted November 25, 2013 Report Share Posted November 25, 2013 I don't know how true this is.. but apparently Matt Smith's Doctor can't regenerate. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deanb Posted November 25, 2013 Author Report Share Posted November 25, 2013 I'd take the Mirror with a pinch of salt. Doubly so if it's an unnamed source. Now if it was an article about X-Factor or I'm a Celebrity then maybe the Mirror might be a solid source. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TCP Posted November 25, 2013 Report Share Posted November 25, 2013 Good to note, I had no idea what The Mirror is. There's only one British source I trust, and his name is Dean. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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