TheMightyEthan Posted October 19, 2017 Report Share Posted October 19, 2017 I agree it's probably bad RAM. If RAM has a bad sector it will work fine until it tries to use that specific sector, and then it will crash. Are you getting bluescreens or just hard freezes? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mister Jack Posted October 19, 2017 Report Share Posted October 19, 2017 I'm having a hell of a time getting my PC to go to sleep. I think it's the same problem I had before, but I'm just realizing now that the problem wasn't that it won't wake up, but that it never actually went to sleep at all. The screen goes black, but it won't sleep! And I still can't wake it up properly either, forcing a hard reset. Dean, you ever figure out what your problem was? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mal Posted October 19, 2017 Report Share Posted October 19, 2017 5 hours ago, TheSpookyEthan said: Are you getting bluescreens or just hard freezes? Hard freeze. If there's any audio then the speakers will just repeat the last note(s) a hundred times a second. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheMightyEthan Posted October 19, 2017 Report Share Posted October 19, 2017 Hmm, still probably ram, but it would have been nice to have a bluescreen code to confirm. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deanb Posted October 20, 2017 Report Share Posted October 20, 2017 On 19/10/2017 at 6:34 PM, Mister Jack Skellington said: I'm having a hell of a time getting my PC to go to sleep. I think it's the same problem I had before, but I'm just realizing now that the problem wasn't that it won't wake up, but that it never actually went to sleep at all. The screen goes black, but it won't sleep! And I still can't wake it up properly either, forcing a hard reset. Dean, you ever figure out what your problem was? bwahaha. Nope, and it's gotten even worse this past week. I'm spending a chunk of this weekend taking my PC onto the ktichen table to tinker with it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mister Jack Posted October 20, 2017 Report Share Posted October 20, 2017 (edited) Just now, deadbmmv said: bwahaha. Nope, and it's gotten even worse this past week. I'm spending a chunk of this weekend taking my PC onto the ktichen table to tinker with it. Well if you happen to discover anything, let me know. I'm not sure what to try anymore. Edited October 20, 2017 by Mister Jack Skellington Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deanb Posted October 21, 2017 Report Share Posted October 21, 2017 20 hours ago, Mister Jack Skellington said: Well if you happen to discover anything, let me know. I'm not sure what to try anymore. So I (currently) have it sorted. Pretty much did the above, stripped it all down, took an opportunity to give it a decent (Static free) dusting and reassembled with some light cable management while making note of fan locations so I can maybe stick a couple more in and maybe pick up some RAM. Probably not the best solution and might only be a pure fluke that it's sort of back to the expected shut down procedure. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheMightyEthan Posted October 22, 2017 Report Share Posted October 22, 2017 I've found that a lot of the time simply opening the computer, determining nothing is wrong, and closing it again fixes the problems. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mal Posted October 22, 2017 Report Share Posted October 22, 2017 (edited) On 10/19/2017 at 3:10 PM, TheSpookyEthan said: Hmm, still probably ram, but it would have been nice to have a bluescreen code to confirm. Your confusion kind of mirrors mines. I'd like to think it is just the RAM but it could be something else. Anyhow, I am waiting on a decent deal on some RAM before I see if new RAM fixes my problem which means Black Friday at the latest. I just had a mini boss fight in Cold Steel crash on me and Wolfenstein 2 is around the corner... decisions. Edit: Also RAM is expensive now. Edited October 22, 2017 by Malloween Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CA-53W Posted October 22, 2017 Report Share Posted October 22, 2017 Using Linux Mint Cinnamon 18.2 with an ageing 8800 GTS - Linux drivers are a complete joke when it comes to gaming. Motorsport Manager opens a blank window for about thirty seconds before closing itself again, Mount and Blade resembles Lego blocks being pushed around on a black background, but Rim World works OK I tried dual installing Linux with Windows to get the best of both worlds, but 7 pratts on about not having the necessary CD/DVD drivers and XP (tried to see if it would let me update from an older OS instead of straight from a formatted drive) says my hard drive is damaged. Screw PC gaming - I don't have the time, patience or the money to get the damned brick running properly. Ever since they got rid of IDE hard drives for that SATA junk a PC will break even if you look at it funny. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheFlyingGerbil Posted October 22, 2017 Report Share Posted October 22, 2017 That sounds like the voice of bitter experience. I don't PC game, but if I did it would just be for the indies which I assume are more likely to work? and keep the triple As for the consoles. I know they can look better on PC but that isn't worth the hassle in my mind - I know everyone says it's easy nowadays, but the length of this thread begs to disagree. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CA-53W Posted October 22, 2017 Report Share Posted October 22, 2017 1 hour ago, TheFlyingGerbil said: That sounds like the voice of bitter experience. I don't PC game, but if I did it would just be for the indies which I assume are more likely to work? and keep the triple As for the consoles. I know they can look better on PC but that isn't worth the hassle in my mind - I know everyone says it's easy nowadays, but the length of this thread begs to disagree. I'm taking a break from gaming at the mo anyway, but I do occasionally throw on the old Xbox 360 for a quick Xcom EW mission. Totally burned out on the PS4 after playing Fallout 4 through multiple times and most of the other stuff just doesn't interest me - Dragon Age Inquisition - a huge sandbox world filled with mediocre cutscenes and built around multiple fetch quests that do nothing more than burn time, Mass Effect Andromeda - a huge sandbox galaxy filled with mediocre cutscenes and built around built around multiple fetch quests that do nothing more than burn time, Witcher 3 - a huge sandbox world filled with decent cutscenes built around multiple fetch quests that do nothing more than burn time, Mad Max - a huge sandbox world filled with decent cutscenes built around multiple fetch quests that do nothing more than burn time - that lets you drive a car... The new gen is all a bit tedious, really, and I've already explored everything that the games I used to play on the older gen like Fallout 3 and New Vegas, Oblivion, and Skyrim have to offer. I keep wanting to replay the first three Mass Effects again, but the first game is such a grind these days and I don't like going with default Shepard for the next two games. As for PC gaming I'm only running an old 32bit copy of Linux that I found on a CD after the mentioned incident, so Steam isn't really an option unless I go through the entire ritual of downloading the latest ISO and making a bootable USB pen - which might not even work considering the questionable state of my current hard drive. I might just charge up my old Dell D505 and play some Freelancer on XP Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deanb Posted October 22, 2017 Report Share Posted October 22, 2017 9 hours ago, Malloween said: Edit: Also RAM is expensive now. Like damn is that true of a lot of parts at the moment. I'd been researching around getting a couple upgrades for this thing, mainly RAM since hey I've two slots free, and stuff is almost the same price as it was when I built this PC 2 years ago (or 3 even). Also looking into a NAS so I can shift some of my bigger media drives out of my PC and onto something I'd be fine running 24/7 and they're also pretty dang pricey, as are hard drives and SSDs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheFlyingGerbil Posted October 22, 2017 Report Share Posted October 22, 2017 I have a D-Link DNS 320 with 2*2TB Samsung HD204UI HDDs which you could have for the cost of postage if you want. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deanb Posted October 22, 2017 Report Share Posted October 22, 2017 That's a very generous offer (unless I guess I was to pop onto the Royal Mail site n find out that postage for a NAS is pretty pricey), but part of why it's pricey for me looking at a NAS is I'm looking for something that'll stream not just back-up stuff, which usually means needing an Intel chip inside. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheFlyingGerbil Posted October 22, 2017 Report Share Posted October 22, 2017 I kinda guessed it wouldn't be suitable from what you wrote, but I'm trying to go minimalist and it is a torturous process. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mister Jack Posted October 27, 2017 Report Share Posted October 27, 2017 Cautiously optimistic but I think I solved my sleep problem. Unfortunately, I still don't know what caused it. All I know is that eventually I got frustrated and rolled all my power settings back to their factory defaults and now it's working. It must have fixed something, but damned if I know what it was. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mal Posted November 6, 2017 Report Share Posted November 6, 2017 (edited) I'm having trouble getting my new RAM setup correctly. My old RAM is a DDR4-2400 PC4-19200 CL16-16-16-36 1.2v (4x4GB). My new RAM is a DDR4-3200 PC4-25600 CL16-18-18-38 1.35v (2x8GB). I got my old RAM up to 2400 MHz but I am having trouble getting my new RAM to 3200 MHz. Seems like the new RAM just refuses to get up to 3200 Mhz even after tweaking the timing and voltage to what they should be. When I try, I am unable to boot and I cannot even get to the BIOS to revert back to a lower frequency unless I hard shutdown then drain all the power from my system (unplug then hit the power switch a few times). I'm currently running at 2133 MHz so I am well below advertise. There got to be something that I am forgetting to change in the BIOS but I do not know what. That or the RAM is crap. Any ideas? Edit: Well, I think I got it up to 3000 MHz along with a bump in CPU speed (4.3 GHz [what I had it to] to 4.4 GHz from a base of 4.0 GHz). I seem to recall that 3200 MHz for RAM can be a pain to get to but I thought it was just on Ryzen builds... I guess not? Edited November 6, 2017 by Mal Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheMightyEthan Posted November 7, 2017 Report Share Posted November 7, 2017 Does your motherboard support that frequency? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mal Posted November 7, 2017 Report Share Posted November 7, 2017 It does. It even goes up to 3466 MHz. 3000 MHz is a step below 3200 MHz so I am kind of close. I'll need to do some more research and sleep on it since it kind of scared me until I was able to get back to BIOS. Thing is though is that it should've been as easy as choosing the XMP profile. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deanb Posted January 6, 2018 Report Share Posted January 6, 2018 Hi, I'm currently looking to design a new CPU and wonder if I should put one fucking major flaw in it or three. Any advice? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheMightyEthan Posted January 10, 2018 Report Share Posted January 10, 2018 Digital Foundry ran some tests on Meltdown and Spectre, and their results seem to back up initial reports that gaming shouldn't be impacted much if at all. The hardest hit game they tested was The Witcher 3, which they found a 10% decrease in framerate, but all of the other games either had no measureable impact or the impact was 1-2%. And that's in a setup that was specifically designed to be CPU-bound, most of the time your games are going to be GPU-bound anyway, so even a 10% haircut on CPU efficiency shouldn't make too much of a difference most of the time. Luckily both Nvidia and AMD graphics cards are only affected by Spectre, which is by far the less impactful of the two bugs, so GPUs shouldn't see a noticeable decrease in efficiency. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. GOH! Posted January 19, 2018 Report Share Posted January 19, 2018 Fuck cryptocurrency miners for making GTX 1080 Tis double in price. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mal Posted January 20, 2018 Report Share Posted January 20, 2018 (edited) Goh, I suggest following /r/buildapcsales on Reddit. I know you are in NYC and there is a Microcenter in Brooklyn by Costco. Hang around and you might get lucky. Today an ASUS 1080 Ti were going for $780 in certain Microcenter stores. Bestbuy also been doing GPUs at or near MSRP. EVGA web store also seems to have the rare MSRP cards as well. If you go into a store, you might have to argue with sales and you probably should win since it was advertised for MSRP. Best of luck. Crypto must be destroyed. Edit: I got to say though, I regretting less about getting my 980 Ti a while back now. It's about equal to a 1070 so I should be happy for a while... Crypto better die by the 12xx line. Edited January 20, 2018 by Mal Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mister Jack Posted January 20, 2018 Report Share Posted January 20, 2018 We live in a world where it is now more practical and affordable to buy prebuilt than it is to build your own. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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