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Woo!  Problem solved!  Thank you so much, that was driving me nuts.

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I'm having issues with a pc I built approx 2 months ago and can't pin down what the problem is.

 

Basically, every so often it just up and freezes entirely. No mouse input, can't ctrl+alt+del, nothing. I can't confirm for all occasions but last time I noticed the HDD light wasn't blinking and was off entirely.

 

The annoying thing is it only happens once every couple of weeks. Initially it was every 2 weeks roughly but the last crash was after about a month of ok usage. If I had to guess, it happens after a long time of usage during the day.

 

I've ran some cpu monitoring software and from what I can tell, its not overheating and seems to idle and cope under load pretty well. Drivers could be an issue but wouldn't know where to start.

 

I appreciate without a parts list this isn't very helpful and I'll update once I get home but just looking for initial impressions right now.

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Yeah someone on Twitter suggested power supply but I can't imagine it's that. The computer is still ticking over in some aspect or another just not responding.

 

I'd be a bit miffed if it's the mobo as its fairly brand new and for that matter the hdd is only a year or so old. Any way of checking either/or?

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I think this thread should be renamed "PCs for dummies like Madbassman39" because I found out last night I accidentally installed windows 32 bit instead of 64 bit when I had my computer crash two months ago... You can all point and laugh at me.

 

All of my games haven't had an issue so far, but then again I haven't been playing anything that amazing lately except for Farcry which has no problem running at the highest settings on 32bit. I only found out because I was playing BF4 for the second time this week and realized "my graphics are turned all the way down" and I couldn't make them look better because I didn't have access to change my graphics.

 

One google search later it said "you have to have windows 64 bit to play the game at higher detail". Well thats no problem, I should have 64 bit... noooope. So now I have to re-install windows on my desktop.

 

I am a dummy.

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A lot of games will be built to 32-bit (until MS finally have the balls to drop 32-bit, can't believe Win10 still comes in 32-bit flavour). Main reason it'll want 64-bit is so that the 4GB of RAM your game might want access too aren't being hogged by the GPU (32-bit supports only 4GB RAM in total, so if you have a 2GB GPU, then your game will only have access to 2GB of system RAM (or full system RAM and next to no VRAM).

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Would it cause problems for computers with small amounts of memory to have a 64 bit OS?

 

If not it would be good if they could just say if you need 32 bit don't upgrade. Everyone else, welcome to the 21st century.

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Would it cause problems for computers with small amounts of memory to have a 64 bit OS?

 

If not it would be good if they could just say if you need 32 bit don't upgrade. Everyone else, welcome to the 21st century.

 

See my post. This isn't about RAM. This is literally about 32-bit chips and SOCs still being in use.

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Win RT and Win 8 32-bit would still exist, they can just dictate that older SoCs run on that, and folks using the newer 64-Bit ARM chips and practically any Intel chip of the last 10 years can join in the world of Windows 10. Microsoft are pretty much the main gatekeeprs that are holding the door open for 32-bit in a major OS. OSX shifted donkeys back, but they're a closed device.

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Win RT and Win 8 32-bit would still exist, they can just dictate that older SoCs run on that, and folks using the newer 64-Bit ARM chips and practically any Intel chip of the last 10 years can join in the world of Windows 10. Microsoft are pretty much the main gatekeeprs that are holding the door open for 32-bit in a major OS. OSX shifted donkeys back, but they're a closed device.

 

This just shuts out far too many devices when they're trying to unite everything. This makes no sense at all and doesn't fit with their plans at all.

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Tablets can use 64-bit chips. So can phones (and they own thier phone manufacturer, and that assumes they're genuinely going to try and put Win10 on phones as thier initial presentation images mply)

 

Can does not mean "affordable." Please don't be one of those people who think the only devices out there are high-end.

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Never implied that the only devices that exist are high end, plenty of low end devices can and do use 64-bit chips. Intel Atom has been 64-bit for a while, and that's the low-end chip of choice for Windows netbooks and tablets. Even on the phone end, on the big if they do make phones running Windows 10 and not Windows Phone, 64-bit would be wiser to go sooner than later, come Windows 11, in about 3 years time, it'll be pointless going 32-bit just on RAM alone. My phone has 3GB of RAM, that's only a gig off the 32-bit limit. iOS is 64 bit, OSX is 64-bit, Android L will be going 64-bit too. MS has had a 64-bit OS for nearly a decade with XP, Vista, Win 7, Win 8 and now Win 10 all having the dual editions. With each new release that fails to kill off the 32-bit attachment it becomes sillier and sillier.

 

Legacy 32-bit only devices can use legacy operating systems, it's not like that's not been a problem for the millions of business that stuck with Win XP, and would be fine with Win 7/XP still if they need to keep some old system running. Why care about folks running 10yr+ systems?

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