TheMightyEthan Posted March 7, 2013 Report Share Posted March 7, 2013 I know it's rather apples to oranges, but if Call of Duty c.~2 years ago had microtransactions for something or other that would give them an obvious competitive edge on multiplayer (like a 3rd perk slot or something), I'm sure that would attract all sorts of scum and villainy too. That's the kind of microtransactions I can't stand. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Waldorf and Statler Posted March 7, 2013 Report Share Posted March 7, 2013 (edited) I think the main thing Microsoft needs to improve in terms of preventing the low-life scum from abusing powers is the telephone line. I mean social engineering to get what you want is not unheard of in other companies but the amount of stories about people doing it for the xbox is ridiculously scary. I don't think I had ever been as scared online as when I got a message from like two people asking me if I could sell either of them my name. I politely told them I had only recently changed it and pointed them in another direction but shit I thought I was going to get haxxed for sure. Edited March 7, 2013 by Waldorf And Statler Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheMightyEthan Posted March 7, 2013 Report Share Posted March 7, 2013 But is that really lax security on their end or is it just that they're an especially tempting target so it happens to them a lot? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheMightyEthan Posted March 7, 2013 Report Share Posted March 7, 2013 EA now says the microtransactions statement was only meant to be about mobile games, not all games. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thursday Next Posted March 7, 2013 Report Share Posted March 7, 2013 But is that really lax security on their end or is it just that they're an especially tempting target so it happens to them a lot? Or are they a tempting target because of their lax security? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Waldorf and Statler Posted March 7, 2013 Report Share Posted March 7, 2013 I see it as a vicious circle that all originated over how easily they give away information. There are far better uses of social engineering, like banks and/or stuff with credit cards associated with it, but MS's is mainly used to sell accounts with cool names, high achievement points or a high year counter. Aka superficial crap, but is is overdone because of how easy it is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheMightyEthan Posted March 7, 2013 Report Share Posted March 7, 2013 Little from column A, little from column B. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mister Jack Posted March 8, 2013 Report Share Posted March 8, 2013 This is pretty much what folks are fearing. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheFlyingGerbil Posted May 16, 2013 Report Share Posted May 16, 2013 apparently EA are getting rid of their online pass. I'm assuming the only reason they would get rid of it is if it didn't make them money, rather than actually listening to customer feedback. Since they spearheaded online passes do you think that this will also lead to the practice becoming obsolete industry-wide? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faiblesse Des Sens Posted May 16, 2013 Report Share Posted May 16, 2013 They're getting rid of it because it will be built into the next-generation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheMightyEthan Posted May 16, 2013 Report Share Posted May 16, 2013 Will it? Where have you heard anything like that? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faiblesse Des Sens Posted May 16, 2013 Report Share Posted May 16, 2013 Given the options the developers will have for locking things down tying it to your console account seems very plausible. We'll see. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thursday Next Posted May 16, 2013 Report Share Posted May 16, 2013 Who wrote that article? I'm very interested to see what will happen on Tuesday. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheMightyEthan Posted May 16, 2013 Report Share Posted May 16, 2013 What info has there been about devs being able to lock stuff down? (Honest question.) The only thing I can think of is devs' ability to turn off the share feature on PS4 if they want. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faiblesse Des Sens Posted May 16, 2013 Report Share Posted May 16, 2013 What info has there been about devs being able to lock stuff down? (Honest question.) The only thing I can think of is devs' ability to turn off the share feature on PS4 if they want. Stuff like "you must have a constant internet connection" is up to the devs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deanb Posted May 16, 2013 Report Share Posted May 16, 2013 Constant internet connection =/= Games being locked to consoles. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheMightyEthan Posted May 16, 2013 Report Share Posted May 16, 2013 Besides, I thought that rumor had been pretty thoroughly debunked. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. GOH! Posted May 16, 2013 Report Share Posted May 16, 2013 This is just the online pass, right? Project Ten Dollar is still going strong? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faiblesse Des Sens Posted May 16, 2013 Report Share Posted May 16, 2013 Besides, I thought that rumor had been pretty thoroughly debunked. Hmm? I thought the current status quo was that games can do this if they want to but it wasn't a standard feature. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheMightyEthan Posted May 16, 2013 Report Share Posted May 16, 2013 Last I heard was that MS internal memo saying singleplayer games must be playable offline on the 720. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thursday Next Posted May 17, 2013 Report Share Posted May 17, 2013 This is just the online pass, right? Project Ten Dollar is still going strong? That's my understanding. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mister Jack Posted May 31, 2013 Report Share Posted May 31, 2013 While I was looking for a video to put in the Dragon's Crown topic I made I found an interesting piece of info about the game. Why do online passes and project 10 dollar exist? To fight used games. Nobody likes them. What Dragon's Crown is doing is offering the first batch of DLC free to everyone who buys the game within the first month. Now, does this completely thwart used games? No. However, most new copies of a game are going to be sold within the first couple of months. Unless the game sucks, used copies usually won't be in abundance during those first few weeks. So, using a hypothetical (probably unlikely) PS4 example, if Sony were to reveal that most PS4 games would offer the same deal by giving early buyers a piece of free DLC that couldn't be downloaded directly from the PSN store without the game, and that was their way of trying to spur the sale of new games, would you be okay with that? Or would that still feel like you're being cheated? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex Heat Posted May 31, 2013 Report Share Posted May 31, 2013 Makes me think of how the 360 and PS3 Suits for the original Dead Space were free for a few weeks before or after release (I don't remember which) then switched over to being paid DLC. I'd be pretty alright with this so long as they stuck with things that wouldn't break the game or provide any sort of unfair advantage in the case of multiplayer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheFlyingGerbil Posted May 31, 2013 Report Share Posted May 31, 2013 I pretty much never buy a game in the first month it's released so I would feel like I'm missing out but I would hardly complain as I know full well that is when they want me to buy the game. It may make me more likely to wait for a GOTY edition depending on what sort of DLC they were offering. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thursday Next Posted May 31, 2013 Report Share Posted May 31, 2013 It can be an incentive to get in early. Then again, there's always a niche who game the system. I always download or at least activate temporarily free DLC for games I might want in the future. Also, it's not so much about "hating" used games. It's more about a) making games depreciate so that new is differentiated from (and better than) used and b) monetising the used game sale by offering the 2nd hand purchaser an opportunity to new-up their purchase. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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