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  1. 1. Do you plan to get Mass Effect Andromeda?

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  2. 2. If you are getting Andromeda, what system will you play it on?

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Actually got to finish the game myself, which required a little late night rundown. Still, I couldn't see myself starting the final mission and picking it up 18 hours later.

 

To start off, I have had an amazing time with the game. It was really only today when things became frustrating like being disconnected from EA servers during multiplayer and my game freezing twice. Still, I'll say it again, the character dialogue and interaction is amazing. Garrus has amazing lines, as well as others we've mentioned. I made sure to check all of the Normandy for the dialogue bits.

 

That said, this leads into what has bothered me for some time: the DLC and multiplayer. I won't go into detail because, again, it has been discussed, but Javik actually had some plot driven moments for an "optional" teammate. I really don't like the randomized pack system for multiplayer because I feel like it limits my potential. I have so many shotguns, but I don't use them. I want to use another assault rifle, but the three other rifles are still at Lv 1 whereas my M-8 Avenger is now Lv 6. Thankfully I've unlocked a few other classes I want to try playing.

 

You can completely see the manipulative nature to Mass Effect 3. I mean, I will never pay money for multiplayer packs, but there's a sucker born every minute and so there's another source of revenue added to the game. I collected more than enough assets in my 40 hours, actually to the point I nearly had 7,000. With 3,500 at 50%, I would definitely have to play a little multiplayer to get the good ending for...

 

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It's true what everyone has said about the last ten minutes. It's like running a marathon, but not crossing the finish line because you tripped over a beaver. It's not that you didn't finish that's so perplexing, it's that you tripped over a damn beaver. IT DOESN'T MAKE SENSE!

 

It hasn't ruined the game for me though, and there's a lot of ridiculous crap going on for both parties as we've discussed. Here's the thing though, it really didn't have to end up the way it did, even with the same plot if they were so inclined.

 

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If they forced an ending on you based on prior actions, that's kinda what people expected, right? I mean, if you're going to have multiple endings anyway. If there were only two, I think people would indeed be pissed if they were stuck with the bad ending, but I guess we would have to say, "It's how you played Mass Effect, it's your doing."

 

I'm starting to ramble as it's late for me... and I have taken quite some time typing this, so there.

 

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Oh yeah, I want to see what I got in my packs...

 

*Edit* - The most exciting thing I got was the Viper II. :( I got the N7 Hurricane, but I don't use SMGs on any of my characters.

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  On 3/21/2012 at 11:58 AM, Atomsk88 said:
That said, this leads into what has bothered me for some time: the DLC and multiplayer. I won't go into detail because, again, it has been discussed, but Javik actually had some plot driven moments for an "optional" teammate.

 

I think this is a case of "damned if you do, damned if you don't." If the DLC character is integrated well into the rest of the game like Javik then people will say "this is central to the game, it should have been included!" Whereas if the DLC is just tacked on and not integrated well like Kasumi and Zaeed of ME2 people will say "this is shoddy work, you should have put more effort into integrating it!"

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I feel like if development wasn't so expensive, it could have had multiple endings like Chrono Trigger (there are already a few similarities between Trigger and the first Mass Effect), where you can get two or three endings based on your past choices and then let you try to take back Earth at any point in time in NG+. Then those endings show only the consequences of not doing what you were supposed to do next, with a few bonus endings that are just silly.

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  On 3/21/2012 at 6:17 AM, Waldorf And Statler said:

Vargras.... how did I miss that video you posted earlier?

 

Best thing ever. Subscribed to the channel in a matter of seconds. Oh god that was awesome.

 

Same guy has made some other videos about 'Legion & Friends', and plans to make it a running series. Which is basically the best news ever.

 

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http://blog.bioware.com/2012/03/21/4108/

 

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... Exec Producer Casey Hudson and the team are hard at work on a number of game content initiatives that will help answer the questions, providing more clarity for those seeking further closure to their journey. You’ll hear more on this in April. [...] This is in addition to our existing plan to continue providing new Mass Effect content and new full games...

 

w00t!

 

Unlike some, I don't actually want them to change the events of the ending (except perhaps

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  On 3/21/2012 at 12:44 PM, TheMightyEthan said:
  On 3/21/2012 at 11:58 AM, Atomsk88 said:
That said, this leads into what has bothered me for some time: the DLC and multiplayer. I won't go into detail because, again, it has been discussed, but Javik actually had some plot driven moments for an "optional" teammate.

 

I think this is a case of "damned if you do, damned if you don't." If the DLC character is integrated well into the rest of the game like Javik then people will say "this is central to the game, it should have been included!" Whereas if the DLC is just tacked on and not integrated well like Kasumi and Zaeed of ME2 people will say "this is shoddy work, you should have put more effort into integrating it!"

 

The solution? Don't make characters DLC. I'm fine with extra side missions and mini-expansion style things, but when you start making characters it DLC it gets kind of messy.

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Oh please, there was no artistic integrity in the ending of this game to start with. The behind-the-scenes app shows that the ending was cobbled together at the last minute.

 

Ordinarily though I'd be inclined to agree with you.

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  On 3/21/2012 at 4:27 PM, Strangelove said:

It's a sad day for artistic integrity. Sigh....

 

Bioware doesn't do anything involving the endings:

-"Bioware is run by greedy bastards who don't listen to their fans!"

 

Bioware does something involving the endings:

-"It's a sad day for artistic integrity. I can't believe they crumbled to pressure from the fans."

 

As was mentioned earlier, damned if you do and damned if you don't.

 

  On 3/21/2012 at 4:38 PM, TheMightyEthan said:

Oh please, there was no artistic integrity in the ending of this game to start with. The behind-the-scenes app shows that the ending was cobbled together at the last minute.

 

Ordinarily though I'd be inclined to agree with you.

 

Regardless, it was their ending that they decided upon. Were this any other game, folks probably would have just gone "Well, that sucks. Time to move on".

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It doesnt manner why the ending exists as it is. It was their decision. Whether it was laziness or idiocy or greed, it was their choice. Its not up to you or anyone else to change it.

I personally didnt hate it, but I didnt like it either. Id be down for dlc to expand on it, but I dont want it to change. Nothing should be altered. Nothing should be replaced because whiny assholes demanded it.

Shit, I hate the rave scene in Matrix Reloaded. If it was up to me I would have never put it in the movie. Its a sin against God, thats how bad I think that scene is. But it is what it is. Im not going to pester the directors, writers, or the studios to change it or remove it. Thats a shit move. At this point, shitty parts of art and media exist to mock or discuss. That in itself is worth it i think.

 

All that being said, I want them to change the ending too because I know they can do better. But if they dont change it, I wont care. Im in no place to demand anything from anyone else.

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  On 3/21/2012 at 4:53 PM, Strangelove said:
I personally didnt hate it, but I didnt like it either. Id be down for dlc to expand on it, but I dont want it to change. Nothing should be altered. Nothing should be replaced because whiny assholes demanded it.

 

I agree with this. I don't want anything changed (again, except for I'd be okay with them changing that one wtf plot hole I mentioned in spoilers above), I just want it expanded upon.

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If anything, there should be more endings to pick from. I hate the Fallout 3 approach, but adding a bunch of screenshots and a narrator saying what happened to each living character would be fine with me, then followed by the regular ME3 endings we all got. That way those endings would make more sense to people. It wouldnt change it, but it would add to it.

 

I have a feeling people would still be pissed though.

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Oh yeah, unlike a lot of people, I'm perfectly okay with

 

 

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I can already tell what they're gonna do. The indoctrination theory would be admitting they completely fucked up. Here's my honest to god theories of what is likely

 

 

 

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At this point they said they want to give CLOSURE not to give us a better ending. Giving an alternate ending would be generally fucking over any chance a future game could come back and mention this one without choosing a canon ending. they need to extend this one. people want to know that we didn't fuck over the entire galaxy and unfortunately, they will need to probably give more plotholes.

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