Fucking Kotaku

[ShadowflareXIII]

Thanx for havin' me. I used to post on Kotaku but then I threw a couch at its knees.

 

Seriously though...the 'redesign' not that long ago was annoying enough, but that new comment system has to be, by far, one of the most counterproductive pieces of s8%+ I have ever seen.

[Strangelove]

Jesus, they moved TAY into the bowels of hell. It's basically in the same place as the cornfield now.

[PABastien]

A friend saw the new commenting system and what they did to TAY. This is what he said.

 

"They stuck TAY in a Ghetto."

Edited June 29, 2012 by PABastien

[Point-3]

I feel bad that watching page views and comment counts plummet on Kotaku makes me feel better because it means someone's great plan to drown the community is backfiring. Okay, so I only kind of feel bad, if only because Kotaku used to be such a thriving place to hang out.

 

I hate to see the editors fake banter and community involvement though; it makes me cringe. After all, they are just trying to make the comments overhaul seem appealing when you know they're biting their tongues.

[PABastien]

Well Point, how many Prisoners in a country like North Korea have to go on video and declare that communism is best?

 

Denton's is out to kill comments. On sites like Kotaku and IO9 we made better content than the writers. so there's no competition now.

[P4: Gritty Reboot]

When I read Kotaku, it was unbelievable how many times I'd read a headline & article, then scroll to the comments only to find the author's entire premise was factually incorrect.

[Havok]

When I read Kotaku, it was unbelievable how many times I'd read a headline & article, then scroll to the comments only to find the author's entire premise was factually incorrect.

 

Quoted for truth.

 

I had my star removed because I dared say that Brian wrote an article about something not game related, it wasn't even related to anything Kotaku ever writes about. Owen got mad with me. The whole place has been going downhill for years, the only reason I stuck with it was the comments. They had more substance then anything the writers ever wrote.

[Faiblesse Des Sens]

Funny, I think most of the comments are shit and have been for ages. The starred commenters are all gigantic trolls or they legitimately believe in their gigantic biases, which is a scary thought of itself, and everyone else is short-sighted as the editors seem at first glance. Kotaku has been a "read between the lines" sort of place ever since I started reading a few years back and I don't think that's changed much. They purposefully dumb down and simplify things to make people upset or talkative in the name of hits but upon a closer look you can usually tell the other doesn't really believe that. The headlines being an obvious case in point as they're all hit baiting and rarely reflect the article. Which brings me back to the comments: How many people don't realize that last thing I just said and bitch about it.

 

Either way, I still find Kotaku interesting and have it alongside my other feeds, but it's certainly not my favorite. Hell, I think the only site I legitimately like out of all my feeds is The Verge. When you have a collection of writers, who are under the control of an editor, who is under the control of someone else, there's always go to be differences in quality and content. Which is why I read multiple sites and always will. Skip the trash, read what's interesting.

[Livingtarget]

Hey. I was only a troll sometimes.

[MasterDex]

I used to love annoying some users for their comments. They'd right these outrageous diatribes, often trolling or "trolling", and I'd just start wrecking their head, keeping them responding with ever more inane replies while I kept typing out these long-ass comments that I find myself so wont to do.

Edited June 30, 2012 by MasterDex

[DocSeuss]

Yeah, I met guys like PABastien, Rathorial, and Squibsforsquids on Kotaku. A LOT of the starred commenters were absolutely fantastic people with a quality of writing I cannot even begin

 

The one and only one rule of Kotaku seems to be "don't call out the writers," except for that one time in which I called out the writers and got Comment of the Week (and 519 responses to my thread at last count). Other than that--if you keep on the topic at hand, or be inarguably right about a subject (like the time I derailed a topic about Kojima to talk about how Warren Spector was one of the most influential developers of all time and was so convincing that Totilo gave me a star), they'll be good about it.

 

It was a genuinely worthwhile site, and the commenters were very good. I'd say they've been the best over the past year than they were since I first popped my head in back in 2006.

 

http://observer.com/2012/06/deadliest-klatsch-nick-denton-gives-gawkers-drive-by-peanut-gallery-a-promotion/

 

Actually, Kinja's a great idea. Turning the site into effectively a guided place for discussion is fantastic. The problem is that in practice, it kills discussion. If I were him, I'd want my millions back. This is not the system he should have gotten.

 

I'm considering writing the author of the article, actually. I really enjoyed reading it, but I thought I'd offer a non-Gawker commenter perspective.

[Mister Jack]

I see we have an influx of Kotaku immigrants. How exactly did they fuck up this time?

[Livingtarget]

You could call them out. You just have to do so gracefully.

 

I think it was the commenting system for most.

[Mister Jack]

Now what did they do to it?

[deanb]

It's hard to explain, you'd need to go see it yourself. It's sort of underneath it all kinda like nested comments. But it only shows one comment thread/chain at a time (other nested comments in the chain also get hidden too)

[Vecha]

Now what did they do to it?

 

I left due to the new commenting system...as well as the new writers/editors. Just not the same over there.

[DocSeuss]

Welp.

 

Last night, I wrote an email to the author of the Kinja article on The Observer.

 

She wants to post my email. I said yes, so long as she removes the statements that identify me by name.

[Livingtarget]

Link to the Article?

[deanb]

http://observer.com/2012/06/deadliest-klatsch-nick-denton-gives-gawkers-drive-by-peanut-gallery-a-promotion/

 

This is all I bring up.

[Livingtarget]

Hmmm alright thanks.

[deanb]

Just reading through it and it seems several other gawker network sites had their spin-offs too, not just Kotaku. They do make a good point. Denton yearly hops along from idea to idea, rarely sticking to anything and making the lightening strike twice of stuff like iPhone 4. Sure the new system (erm I guess old now) would have been great then, but they didn't have it then and they've not had the iPhone 5 since.

 

I guess Denton can be thankful most of his comments about commenters are rarely read by folks who visit kotaku n such.

[DocSeuss]

Link to the Article?

 

It was on the last page... >_>

[Livingtarget]

I missed it ok?!?!

[Strangelove]

http://www.nytimes.com/2012/07/11/arts/video-games/theatrhythm-is-a-music-game-based-on-a-japanese-series.html?_r=1&ref=arts

 

NY Times is going to print Kotaku reviews on their paper.

Id be proud of them...4 or 5 years ago. But not now.

 

That being said, I still kind of like a lot of their reviews. Theyre not half bad.

[deanb]

Did they drop their:

 

Should you Buy Game X?

 

Yes

I've not played this game, making my opinion as useless as your own but we need three responses to flesh this out

 

reviews they started doing a year back or so?