Fucking Kotaku

[toxicitizen]

Who's vilifying Joel now?

 

All anyone did was comment on how crazy the accusation towards Dean was and how suddenly Joel backed out of the discussion.

I think everyone realizes that it's Crecente making the accusation, not Joel.

[Hot Heart]

RockyRan, you didn't need to defend yourself. I was pointing out that even you could see things reasonably.

 

I wouldn't like to think anyone is attacking Joel, but giving any credence to this death threat thing was a little foolish.

 

Also:

http://kotaku.com/5820414/the-conspiracy-unfolds-in-the-latest-deus-ex-human-revolution

D'oh

Edited July 12, 2011 by Hot Heart

[AgamemnonV2]

 

I have no idea what's going on anymore. I was actually hoping to see Joel post...

, babe!

I just want to know who he is.

[Hot Heart]

I know the idea of these is to pick something controversial to generate hits, but at least get something articulate...

 

http://kotaku.com/5821193/someone-was-not-pleased-with-the-catherine-demo

[toxicitizen]

Yeah, I was coming to mention this. Seems like an especially bad choice for Speak-Up...

I really can't tell whether it was picked as a joke or not.

[CorgiShinobi]

Ugh, why did I click on that link?!

 

It was an ignorant nincompoop's electronic diarrhea, something no one wants to look at or be near.

[TheRevanchist]

Ugh, why did I click on that link?!

 

Because it's better than this link.

[Cyber Rat]

They have a series of Japanese fetish articles? Really?

[toxicitizen]

Those have been running for a while, yeah.

But I don't think they're exclusively about Japan.

Can't say I ever read any of them, though.

[jayc4life]

http://kotaku.com/5821598/fake-british-game-designer-is-the-funniest-twitter-youre-not-reading

 

Because a parody Twitter account's news-worthy, right (He's talking about @PeterMolyDeux btw)?

 

Does CBS write articles about @NotGusJohnson and CBC write stories on @DonCherryParody? I think not.

[P4: Gritty Reboot]

The fetish articles are exclusively about Japan, but I think they did do an American fetish one for a bit too. They are laughable.

[deanb]

"Americas fetish is penises"

"Americas fetish is guns strapped to the thighs of hot women"

"Americas fetish is surprisingly linked to articles that can get us hits"

 

Or just this.

 

edit: btw popped on kotaku cos it crossed my mind* that they might, as is the way, do an (attempted) movie review of harry potter, since it's quite big n all.

This is the top story atm:

http://kotaku.com/58...-a-lot-of-sense

 

It has come to light that someone—probably Microsoft—has registered the domain Microsoft-Sony.com.

 

It amuses me how often games bloggers are unable to do a whois lookup

http://www.whois.net...rosoft-sony.com

 

I can't for the life of me think who probably has a HQ at "One Microsoft Way" or who probably has DNS servers at msft.net. Its probably Microsoft, but who can be sure...

This is a site that reported on the Xbox Pure, and plenty of other rumours but put in a "probably" clause for something that's quite obviously fact.

 

I'll leave the

Xbox Live is the best online gaming platform in existence. While PC-based Steam is a close second overall, there's no better platform for getting games, media, and networking with friends than Xbox Live.

for others to pick apart.

 

Also unified under a single banner it would shrink immensely. The fact one costs and the other doesn't isn't even covered. Never mind the issues with ideals the two have for their network as we've discussed in the past, or been given examples of like with MS n BF3.

 

Bonus of the little show going on in video game blogs the past day regards to the "Sony-Microsoft" thing is that is has spurred me on a bit in my "why a single console world would suck" article I promised a while back.

[Hot Heart]

'America's fetish is cancelled this week. You bunch of norms'

[P4: Gritty Reboot]

Oh man about to go ballistic over the Steam comment. Just-- man. I need to blow off some-- err, Steam.

[toxicitizen]

Oh man about to go ballistic over the Steam comment. Just-- man. I need to blow off some-- err, Steam.

Well, you're obviously a fanboy then!

Kotaku are objective. Because they are journalists.

[Faiblesse Des Sens]

Oh man about to go ballistic over the Steam comment. Just-- man. I need to blow off some-- err, Steam.

Well, you're obviously a fanboy then!

Kotaku are objective. Because they are journalists.

 

I don't get your attitude. If anything it was a completely subjective statement. One that is believed by the writer of the article and not that it is fact. That's why I still read Kotaku along with other sites... multiple viewpoints and opinions. Objectivity is boring anyways.

[deanb]

The population of earth is 6.8billion people

Mount Everest is the largest mountain in the world.

Xbox Live is the best online gaming platform in existence.

Avatar is the highest grossing film of all time.

Facebook is the largest social network on the net.

 

Are you sure it was a "completely subjective statement". Cos in my opinion, it wasn't. It could be argued that they are fanboys. However I think it's just an example of lazy writing, or just getting too used to presenting their own opinion as fact.

[Cyber Rat]

I have no idea why I'd primarily use Steam for media and getting in touch with friends when I'm on a PC which has better solutions for both... It's a pretty silly comparison.

 

However I think it's just an example of lazy writing, or just getting too used to presenting their own opinion as fact.

 

Presenting opinion as fact is how you get pageviews. You get the attention of people who both agree with you and don't agree with you. Here we are, right now, talking about and linking to Kotaku over an opinionated statement, increasing awareness of the site and giving them more pageviews. It's not lazy, it's effective.

Edited July 16, 2011 by Cyber Rat

[toxicitizen]

Oh man about to go ballistic over the Steam comment. Just-- man. I need to blow off some-- err, Steam.

Well, you're obviously a fanboy then!

Kotaku are objective. Because they are journalists.

 

I don't get your attitude. If anything it was a completely subjective statement. One that is believed by the writer of the article and not that it is fact. That's why I still read Kotaku along with other sites... multiple viewpoints and opinions. Objectivity is boring anyways.

Eh, I was making a joke. I'm not sure how you didn't get that.

But like Dean said, that statement was hardly presented as being an opinion. It was stated as fact.

 

And yes, I do expect objectivity coming from journalists.

Kotaku's writers only barely qualify as journalists,though, but that's beside the point.

 

Presenting opinion as fact is how you get pageviews. You get the attention of people who both agree with you and don't agree with you. Here we are, right now, talking about and linking to Kotaku over an opinionated statement, increasing awareness of the site and giving them more pageviews. It's not lazy, it's effective.

How about unprofessional then?

Edited July 16, 2011 by FLD

[Cyber Rat]

Kotaku isn't interested in becoming a hallmark of gaming journalism. They are interested in pageviews and popularity. Getting riled up over them being unprofessional is a waste of time.

Edited July 16, 2011 by Cyber Rat

[toxicitizen]

Who's getting riled up?

[deanb]

Here we are, right now, talking about and linking to Kotaku over an opinionated statement, increasing awareness of the site and giving them more pageviews. It's not lazy, it's effective.

 

Minimal pageviews at best. Sure when they snare reddit in their grasp it's potentially effective, if it wasn't for Reddit auto-downvoting any direct link to kotaku, allowing imgur screenshots only.

 

I'd say the overall net effect is a negative one to pageviews, since over the past few years most of us here have stopped reading altogether. Same way Fox gets a bad rap and apart from the few "look at this retarded article here" I never read them.

 

The problem with Kotaku not caring is that despite their massive loss in February, they're still one of the top gaming sites. Despite their attempts not to be. And to that end many sites look up to them, or at least follow their style and ways for a chance of, at the very least, the scraps of page views to pick up.

 

It gets to the point where it becomes a large pile of shit. To paraphrase a "wise man"; it's like going to a food court for a meal and all the restaurants are McDonalds*. They're a successful business sure, but it's not what you want all the time. Gaming news is junk news. It's regurgitated reprocessed shit 90% of the time. There's opinion presented as fact. There's sites that will just copy paste other sites with no background checking. There's sties that will pretty much just print out the press release as an article. Sites that'll run a "hey look at the tits on that game character" then a couple days later decry sexism in the games industry. That just run bullshit. Take quotes out of context from developers then wonder why press releases are the only forms of communication. That pretty much just become a marketing vehicle for "GOTY X" in the middle of march.

 

I understand that there's not much "gaming news" beyond things like the California ratings case, the Infinity ward case, the odd death in the industry. But still doesn't mean simple standards should have to slip. It's all a bit of a clusturfuck.

 

*except the Sterling Burgers joint where the burgers are made of rotting meat from the finest bred cows and it's service with a punch. And for some reason some people really like this.

[RockyRan]

Kotaku isn't interested in becoming a hallmark of gaming journalism. They are interested in pageviews and popularity.

 

You can say THAT again. ¬_¬

 

Although I would like to point out, usually when someone wants to defend a publication it usually involves pointing out ways in which said publication is significant. You know, put them in a good, respectable light. Doesn't really say much if we defend a publication with "well, they want attention, this is how they get it". It's the same rationalization cheapo tabloid editors like to use.

[FredEffinChopin]

The problem with Kotaku not caring is that despite their massive loss in February, they're still one of the top gaming sites. Despite their attempts not to be. And to that end many sites look up to them, or at least follow their style and ways for a chance of, at the very least, the scraps of page views to pick up.

 

It gets to the point where it becomes a large pile of shit. To paraphrase a "wise man"; it's like going to a food court for a meal and all the restaurants are McDonalds*. They're a successful business sure, but it's not what you want all the time. Gaming news is junk news. It's regurgitated reprocessed shit 90% of the time. There's opinion presented as fact. There's sites that will just copy paste other sites with no background checking. There's sties that will pretty much just print out the press release as an article. Sites that'll run a "hey look at the tits on that game character" then a couple days later decry sexism in the games industry. That just run bullshit. Take quotes out of context from developers then wonder why press releases are the only forms of communication. That pretty much just become a marketing vehicle for "GOTY X" in the middle of march.

 

I understand that there's not much "gaming news" beyond things like the California ratings case, the Infinity ward case, the odd death in the industry. But still doesn't mean simple standards should have to slip. It's all a bit of a clusturfuck.

 

*left-clicks repeatedly*

Why can I only vote a post up once?

[Cyber Rat]

Kotaku isn't interested in becoming a hallmark of gaming journalism. They are interested in pageviews and popularity.

Although I would like to point out, usually when someone wants to defend a publication it usually involves pointing out ways in which said publication is significant. You know, put them in a good, respectable light. Doesn't really say much if we defend a publication with "well, they want attention, this is how they get it". It's the same rationalization cheapo tabloid editors like to use.

 

Defending them?