SixTwoSixFour Posted January 11, 2011 Report Share Posted January 11, 2011 The Versus series! Some of the best, most loved fighting games ever made. And we're about to get Marvel vs. Capcom 3, which looks absolutely amazing. Will it finally dethrone Capcom vs. SNK 2 as the best fighting game ever made? Who do you think they'll announce in the next month? And how in God's name is Frank West not in it, I mean seriously. Personally, I want to see Gene from God Hand, but that seems like the longest of shots, given that God Hand didn't sell very well. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Battra92 Posted January 11, 2011 Report Share Posted January 11, 2011 I'm actually waiting for this game: All kidding aside I absolutely LOVED Marvel vs Capcom 2 and Capcom vs SNK on my Dreamcast. I not royally suck at MvC2 which is a bit odd as I used to be so good at it. What I loved about vs SNK was the tiered system. I think that made it a lot more balanced than MvC2. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SixTwoSixFour Posted January 11, 2011 Author Report Share Posted January 11, 2011 All kidding aside I absolutely LOVED Marvel vs Capcom 2 and Capcom vs SNK on my Dreamcast. I not royally suck at MvC2 which is a bit odd as I used to be so good at it. What I loved about vs SNK was the tiered system. I think that made it a lot more balanced than MvC2. Oh man, you HAVE to get CvS2. They added this great system where... well, where no character has an inherent ratio value? You can tweak it. Like, you could have a team of Zangief, Ryu, Terry, where Ryu is Ratio 2, and the other two are Ratio 1, or you can do Zangief and Ryu both as 2s (or Gief 1, Ryu 3), or you can just have one character that is Ratio 4.... it's really awesome, there are pros and cons to everything. Only good with one character? Choose them at Ratio 4. Like to mix and match so that you can handle any foe? Make a bigger team. Tons of fun. Though when you run into one of the bosses, like Shin Akuma, they're always Ratio 4, and they just fuckin' MURDER you =P Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commander Shepard Posted January 11, 2011 Report Share Posted January 11, 2011 Ratio 1 fighter versus Shin Rugal or Shin Akuma, it's like blowing bubbles against a tank. So many continues spent on unlocking those two characters, and even when you use them as a ratio 4 fighter, they take damage like they were a ratio 2 fighter. Ah, so many days spent in the arcade, until I got my PS2 copy, trolling other challengers with Geese and Yamazaki's counters. I also really enjoyed the Groove system, to let you match a fighting style / Super bar to your needs. I usually rolled with the Capcom styles (C, A, and P) though I really didn't get into P until I play SF: 3rd Strike. The SNK styles took a bit longer for me to get into, except for the S charging style, especially when your HP got low and you could spam tier one supers. In terms of de-throning CvSNK2 in terms of best fighting game ever, I think it will have it's initial success, with wild claims of it being the king, but will eventually fall below MvC2 in terms of quality. (I might be a bit biased because I think fighting games should always be sprites.) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SeniorPuffyPants Posted January 11, 2011 Report Share Posted January 11, 2011 I was looking for Tatsunoko vs capcom evryware.. no luck. Was the game really that good? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cyber Rat Posted January 11, 2011 Report Share Posted January 11, 2011 Personally, I want to see Gene from God Hand, but that seems like the longest of shots, given that God Hand didn't sell very well. I've read that that was their reason, but for fucks sake, what's Bionic Hot-Dog Arms doing in the game then? I'm guessing he gets priority because there will likely be a sequel, while God Hand is never getting one (and without Mikami, it shouldn't). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deanb Posted January 12, 2011 Report Share Posted January 12, 2011 http://attackofthefanboy.com/news/marvel-vs-capcom-3-fixes-problem-quitters/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SixTwoSixFour Posted January 12, 2011 Author Report Share Posted January 12, 2011 Ratio 1 fighter versus Shin Rugal or Shin Akuma, it's like blowing bubbles against a tank. So many continues spent on unlocking those two characters, and even when you use them as a ratio 4 fighter, they take damage like they were a ratio 2 fighter. Ah, so many days spent in the arcade, until I got my PS2 copy, trolling other challengers with Geese and Yamazaki's counters. I also really enjoyed the Groove system, to let you match a fighting style / Super bar to your needs. I usually rolled with the Capcom styles (C, A, and P) though I really didn't get into P until I play SF: 3rd Strike. The SNK styles took a bit longer for me to get into, except for the S charging style, especially when your HP got low and you could spam tier one supers. In terms of de-throning CvSNK2 in terms of best fighting game ever, I think it will have it's initial success, with wild claims of it being the king, but will eventually fall below MvC2 in terms of quality. (I might be a bit biased because I think fighting games should always be sprites.)[/center] I know what you mean about Ratio 1 against those two- I started going one Ratio 3 fighter, with a second Ratio 1 as in ace in the hole, just in case. They really do just murder you, though =P I don't personally think CvS2 is going to be dethroned, but MvC3 better than MvC2? For sure. MvC2 was such an unbalanced nightmare, the ability to do patches alone means that MvC3 will be far better IMO. Plus... Dante and Deadpool. That is win right there. http://attackofthefanboy.com/news/marvel-vs-capcom-3-fixes-problem-quitters/ Yeah, saw that, Dean. It makes me very happy, rage quitters in fighting games are a huge downer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toshi Posted January 12, 2011 Report Share Posted January 12, 2011 (edited) date masamune and sanada yukimura from sengoku basara would be my choice. MISETE ARUSE... SHOWTIME! Edited January 12, 2011 by Toshi Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cyber Rat Posted January 12, 2011 Report Share Posted January 12, 2011 Sorry Toshi, they confirmed there wouldn't be any Sengoku Basara characters as well (*tear*). Same goes with Rival Schools if anyone cares. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toshi Posted January 12, 2011 Report Share Posted January 12, 2011 you have no idea how sad I am right now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strangelove Posted January 12, 2011 Report Share Posted January 12, 2011 I wouldnt say the vs. Series is one of the best, but it is the funnest fighting game series. Most of the games are totally fucked up and unbalanced nightmares. Playing them competively is a joke. capcom vs. Snk2 is a great game though. Its up there with the other sf games. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SixTwoSixFour Posted January 12, 2011 Author Report Share Posted January 12, 2011 I wouldnt say the vs. Series is one of the best, but it is the funnest fighting game series. Most of the games are totally fucked up and unbalanced nightmares. Playing them competively is a joke. capcom vs. Snk2 is a great game though. Its up there with the other sf games. Well, that's part of the reason for MvC3's smaller cast- so that balance work is actually possible. MvC2 was a fuckin' mess, though, you're right. I would still say the Vs. Series was one of the best, because... what's it's fuckin' competition? Soulcalibur, Mortal Kombat, Tekken? Don't make me laugh. BlazBlue and Street Fighter are better, but after that, there are no real fighters that are balanced enough for real pro play. Capcom kinda dominates the scene. (Plus the BlazBlue/Guilty Gear people, of course) Maybe SNK will get its head in the game and deliver a good fighter again for the first time in a long time. KOFXII was weaksauce, maybe XIII will be decent. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commander Shepard Posted January 12, 2011 Report Share Posted January 12, 2011 what's it's fuckin' competition? Tekken? Don't make me laugh.. I WILL AIR JUGGLE YOU FOR SUCH SPEAK! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Battra92 Posted January 13, 2011 Report Share Posted January 13, 2011 I was looking for Tatsunoko vs capcom evryware.. no luck. Was the game really that good? Yes it was and is fantastic! It's $24 on Amazon (less used) http://www.amzn.com/B002EE5SAC http://attackofthefanboy.com/news/marvel-vs-capcom-3-fixes-problem-quitters/ What bugs me on MVC2 is that playing online is a joke. I used to kick butt at this game at my local arcade but online I get trapped in a ten billion hit combo and lose instantly. I never play it online any more for that reason. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commander Shepard Posted January 13, 2011 Report Share Posted January 13, 2011 What bugs me on MVC2 is that playing online is a joke. I used to kick butt at this game at my local arcade but online I get trapped in a ten billion hit combo and lose instantly. I never play it online any more for that reason. Online + Fighting Games have never been a good formula. Either lag or terrible detection, it will always be a frustrating experience, always making you want to play in the same room or at the arcade cabinet. I've had some online matches where I hit my opponent with a Super, yet his health bar does not flinch, and I can only blame it on lag somewhere, and worse when the disconnects happen. The twitch-like reflexes just beg for there to be no error except for the user's input. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Mister Jack Posted January 13, 2011 Report Share Posted January 13, 2011 Fuck yeah I want that game. I am so pissed they're doing Tekken instead. Give me a break. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cyber Rat Posted January 13, 2011 Report Share Posted January 13, 2011 That game would be awesome. Sadly, Arc System's inferior 2D graphics cannot compete with the almighty inky 3D of all of Capcom's future fighters. At least I'm guessing that's what Capcom's excuse would be. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mister Jack Posted January 13, 2011 Report Share Posted January 13, 2011 So they pick fucking TEKKEN of all things? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SixTwoSixFour Posted January 16, 2011 Author Report Share Posted January 16, 2011 So they pick fucking TEKKEN of all things? I'm with you there, friend. Tekken... well, I've already expressed my dislike. By the way, we've somehow not yet posted the leaked character roster. There were, of course, a lot of leaked character rosters, but this one has been pretty consistently right... anything bolded has yet to be confirmed, but everything else has been. Marvel Captain America Deadpool Doctor Doom Dormammu Galactus (Boss, not playable) Hulk Iron Man Magneto M.O.D.O.K. Phoenix Sentinel She-Hulk Shuma-Gorath (DLC) Spiderman Storm Super Skrull Taskmaster Thor Wolverine X-23 Capcom Akuma Albert Wesker Amaterasu Arthur Chris Redfield Chun-Li Crimson Viper Dante Felicia Hsien-Ko Jill Valentine (DLC) Mike Haggar Morrigan Aensland Nathan Spencer Ryu Trish Tron Bonne Viewtiful Joe Zero It's worth noting that, since this list came out (months ago), Jill and Shuma were announced as DLC, Akuma and Taskmaster were accidentally leaked through official artwork, and Haggar and Phoenix from the list have been officially announced as well. So it's looking pretty accurate. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commander Shepard Posted January 16, 2011 Report Share Posted January 16, 2011 Where is Cable so I can spam my Viper Beams? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SixTwoSixFour Posted January 16, 2011 Author Report Share Posted January 16, 2011 Where is Cable so I can spam my Viper Beams? Knowing Capcom? DLC. Though personally, I'm glad to see some of the more annoying members of the cast gone. MvC3, from videos, is not NEARLY as annoying in action as MvC2 was. "ICE BEAM! ICE BEAM! ICE BEAM! ARCTIC ATTACK! YOUR MOVE! OPTIC BLAST! OPTIC BLAST! VIPER BEAM! BEHOLD, OPTIC BLAST! HYPER VIPER BEAM!" Shit drove me CRAZY. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mister Jack Posted January 16, 2011 Report Share Posted January 16, 2011 Do we need Ryu AND Akuma? It always bugs me how in versus games they have to put more than one of the shotoclones in there. They play almost the exact same. I get that there's fan appeal, but gameplay-wise it seems like a wasted slot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SixTwoSixFour Posted January 16, 2011 Author Report Share Posted January 16, 2011 Do we need Ryu AND Akuma? It always bugs me how in versus games they have to put more than one of the shotoclones in there. They play almost the exact same. I get that there's fan appeal, but gameplay-wise it seems like a wasted slot. They really don't play the same, though, Jack. Akuma plays very, VERY differently from Ryu. Ryu is an all-around projectile character that uses his fireballs to make any approach difficult. He's a corner-pressure character, with no real weaknesses. Akuma is an anywhere-pressure character- he uses the variable angles of his fireballs to control where you can and can't safely stand, he has incredible offense, weak defense, and some killer combos. Some of the shotos, they really are too similar, but the beauty of Ryu and Akuma has always been how incredibly differently they play despite the relative similarity of their moves. Plus... The Shun Goku Satsu... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gb1ZQaj1zc0 The Kongou Kokuretsu Zan... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GYFhJdXkPW0 And the MISOGI. His onslaught of badass moves cannot be denied. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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