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I restarted this for the third time tonight.

 

Every single time I defeat the first demon (Phalanx), then Tower Knight and then just fail miserably at whatever other level I attempt. Which makes me promptly stop. I don't think I've ever played the game for more than a few days to a week before shelving it again every time.

 

This time, though. It's happening! :bun-YES:

I am kicking that game's ass! I definitely feel more prepared. Without reading anything spoilerish or too detailed ( that would be cheating) I looked around for some advice for beginners.

 

So my new character is a Royalty, which seems to be unanimously accepted as the most beginner-friendly class ( and holy shit is Soul Arrow useful so far O_O...).

When I stopped playing about 20mins ago, I had just defeated Tower Knight. So far things are going pretty smoothly, but I know the first two levels pretty much by heart at this point since they're basically the only ones I really played. I attempted some others, but I never finished any of them ( except for the one with the Armored Spider boss, but that was on my first game back when the game first came out, in like October 2009).

 

Anyway, perhaps some of you guys have some advice?

 

In what order would you suggest I tackle the early levels?

In this case, after having completed 1-1 and 1-2, where to next?

 

What kind of weapon/shield should I go for? I've often read that finding something that fits your playstyle is most important, but I figure it wouldn't hurt to know what exactly to look for and where.

 

Right now my equipment is the wizard's robes the Royalty starts with along with a +2 scimitar and +1 buckler.

I'm pretty sure the buckler's gonna have to go soon, but I haven't come across anything to replace it with so far.

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I always go with 1-1 2-1 3-1 4-1 5-1 then 1-2 2-2 and so son it works best for me. :P

 

Also, for weapons, depends on what are you going to focus on, my new character is heavily focused on magic so I went with a Crescent Falchion (you get it in 4-1 I think), that weapon receives bonus damage based on my magic level, so that's the best weapon for me right now, if you have a strength inclined character then there are many good weapons, but I'm not familiar with them. :P For shields, I don't know, I use the Dark Silver Shield with my other character, but it will take a while before you can get that one. Before that I used the Rune shield which is available in 3-2 (that's the tower right?).

 

Anyway, we should start playing coop again! :P

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:scratch: What the hell... I could swear I had replied but now it appears to be gone...

Not the first time this happened in the last few days either... Weird.

 

Anyway, as I had previously posted, so far I'm focusing my character on magic strength, so the Crescent Falchion you mentioned sounds like it could be useful, so thanks.

 

Also, now that you mention coop, I've been wondering about something while reading this thread.

How do you coop with someone specific? I was under the impression that it was basically random since there's no way to communicate with other players directly.

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LOL, Replies are disappearing now! :P

 

Anyway, to answer your question, there's no in-game way to coop with someone specific, basically what you do is send a message via XMB saying something like "Ok, placing my soul sign *insert place where soul sign is going to be placed* ready?" then the other dude replies when he's ready and he goes to where the soul sign was placed looking for the specific soul sign of the person he wants to coop with... I'm not good at explaining things so this probably sounds way more confusing/complicated than what it is when you try it. :P

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Nah, I get it.

 

I figured that was how you did it, but I asked just in case there was a simpler way I didn't know of.

 

I'm in 3-1 right now. That place is creepy as hell! :unsure:

And I just got killed by a freaking mindflayer so now I have to go find my blood stain... oh joy!

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For weapons, once you have done 2-2 (I think). The fire demon fella. Flamelurker? You can give his soul to the blacksmith in 2. This will allow you to forge weapons from the boss demon's souls.

 

Now. Take the soul from the Phalanx boss. Like right now. And get it forged into a Scraping spear.

 

If you ever get invaded, brandish the Scraping spear and look as mean as possible.

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Hehe, yeah the bosses' souls were the reason I restarted the game the first time.

 

I had exchanged both Phalanx and Tower Knight's souls for currency souls to level up and then found out I should've kept them to forge weapons.

 

Now I'm keeping them and will make sure I use them right.

 

As for the scraping spear, does it have any special properties?

 

I was actually thinking on investing in the Evacuate miracle in case I ever get invaded.

Though I think it was pretty expensive.

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"While this weapon's damage output is low compared to other weapons obtainable with similar effort, it is unique in that every hit that lands (even if the enemy blocks it) does 10 durability damage to each item the target has equipped. When the durability of a weapon or piece of armor is below 30%, its effectiveness decreases greatly. Because of the special effect, this weapon is very effective against players or NPC's that wield katanas, since it only takes 5 or so hits before their weapon durability is below the 30% point."

 

Taken from: http://demonssouls.wikidot.com/scraping-spear

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What kind of weapon/shield should I go for? I've often read that finding something that fits your playstyle is most important, but I figure it wouldn't hurt to know what exactly to look for and where.

 

Right now my equipment is the wizard's robes the Royalty starts with along with a +2 scimitar and +1 buckler.

I'm pretty sure the buckler's gonna have to go soon, but I haven't come across anything to replace it with so far.

 

If you're royalty, and you mentioned the usefulness of the souls arrow, I'm going to assume you're using a little more magic than melee. If such is the case, a shield/spear combo is best because you can do melee damage with a little more distance from your target, and you can block with the shield while you attack. I believe the Winged Spear has a little more reach than the Short Spear, but you'll need a little more strength to wield to without any disadvantages. For a shield, I always went with the Dark Heater Shield; I believe because anything larger won't allow you to roll.

 

Heavy armour isn't quite as advantageous as just dodging, what with the clunky roll, weight, and stamina penalty. You've got Wizard's Robes, but if you're mostly worried about physical damage you'll want the Leather Armour. It will give you a slightly higher stamina penalty, however, but if you're not too skilled with dodging yet, it might be worth it just for the extra protection.

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Rolling is a matter of weight. If your armor total armor and weapon weight is less than half of your total equipment weight max then you can roll quickly.

 

Ah, indeed. My experience with heavy armour and weapons is just dabbling before I store them. They've always been too heavy for my characters.

 

Though I've never tried it, I've read that the protection heavier armour provides isn't worth the trade-off for the stamina penalty it incurs. But in theory, if you have the stats to use the armour without being bogged down, you probably have the stats for a more powerful weapon, too. In that case you wouldn't need to dodge more than a couple times to take down most enemies.

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So, after a few failed attempts at getting back into it, I finally made some serious progress in Demon's Souls!

I'm almost done with my first playthrough, which is kinda pathetic considering I had originally pre-ordered the game and have owned it since the North America release, but whatever. Better late than never.

 

Anyway, so I've completed World 2 and 3 and have only 4-3, 5-3 and 1-4 left to do, in that order. I'm pretty sure those are only boss rooms and have no exploration whatsoever, so I could realistically finish the game today.

 

But before I do that, I was wondering if there are any things I should make sure to do before I finish my first playthrough.

Items to get or whatever? Stuff that will be harder to get in subsequent runs.

 

Any World Tendency stuff is off the table, though, since I'm mostly in the neutral zone and have no hope of achieving pure white or pure black in this one.

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As for the scraping spear, does it have any special properties?

 

 

Metalcaveman has covered the weapons special properties, so just to clarify why I suggest always carrying one (once you get to a higher level).

 

Generally, if you get invaded, it's by someone with good equipment who knows what they're about. Because the scraping spear wrecks durability it will in all likelihood cost them more in souls to repair their equipment than they are going to gain by killing you, so most of the time you can avoid PvP combat by brandishing it with intent. :)

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Be careful with 1 4 one of his attacks STEALS YOUR LEVEL. 4 3 is retardly easy just get stormruler which is a sword in the back of the stage. 5 3 is also pretty easy problem is the actual boss isn't the saint its the Knight and he has a big ass hammer. Nothing is really harder to get as much as subsequent playthroughs are just harder. Everything after NG+ is not that bad.

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As for the scraping spear, does it have any special properties?

 

 

Metalcaveman has covered the weapons special properties, so just to clarify why I suggest always carrying one (once you get to a higher level).

 

Generally, if you get invaded, it's by someone with good equipment who knows what they're about. Because the scraping spear wrecks durability it will in all likelihood cost them more in souls to repair their equipment than they are going to gain by killing you, so most of the time you can avoid PvP combat by brandishing it with intent. :)

Yeah, that's what I figured. I still haven't made the scraping spear, though. Didn't seem like too much of a priority considering I played in soul form most of the time. I only got invaded once, it was in 1-4, right after I'd defeated the Penetrator and had just walked into the area ahead to have a quick look. The fog appeared just as I was heading back to the archstone and I somehow got stuck in it. So it was basically like shooting fish in a barrel for that guy... -_-

 

Anyway, I was actually thinking I would do my NG+ offline, so I could do the Pure White World Tendency Stuff.

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Be careful with 1 4 one his attacks STEALS YOUR LEVEL.

I somehow missed your post when I replied, so I found that out the hard way. Bastard took 2-3 levels. Kicked his ass in the end, though!

 

Pure white world is a pain in the ass to get so good luck with that.

Really? I read that so long as I avoid dying in body form in a world, it should go pure white once I killed its archdemon. So shouldn't it be easy to achieve by simply suiciding in the nexus whenever I regain my body? Or am I missing something here?

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Oh man, I knew that NG+ had an estimated 40% increase in difficulty, but holy shit! I did not expect to feel like I was level 1 all over again!

 

I actually went through 1-1 without any trouble. It was fairly easy, though Phalanx didn't go down as quickly as I had expected.

And I think that's what the problem was. I was overly careful during 1-1 because I needed to protect my 170K souls carried over from beating the game, and when I managed to make it through without losing them (or even dying once), I let my guard down.

 

The reality check in 2-1 was pretty painful. Then I skipped ahead to 4-1 because I had spent a lot of time there in the previous run and figured I'd have an easier time beating it. Oh god how wrong I was...

 

For a while there, it seemed as impossible as it did when I first played the game on release day. That was pretty demoralizing!

Thankfully I soldiered on and eventually beat 2-1, and I actually went through 3-1 pretty easily. Haven't beat the Fool's Idol yet, though.

And the black phantom right before her was a bit tricky. But yeah, this is turning out to be a bigger challenge than I had anticipated!

 

I really need to raise my Endurance so I can start wearing some heavier armor and still be able to roll around like crazy.

I've had most of my current gear since about midway through the first run, and it's really starting to feel like I need to replace it.

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I just realised that the server shutdown time for Demon's Souls coincides with the month of release for Dark Souls, which means that chances of another extension for the server time is probably nil.

 

I guess that gives me until then to get the Monk's Head Collar, because it can't be obtained outside of pvp in 3-3, can it?

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