Vargras Posted February 22, 2011 Report Share Posted February 22, 2011 (edited) Steam has the demo right now. The Steam download is so much faster in comparison right now. Steam: 1.2 MB/s Direct from Bioware: 56 KB/s Edited February 22, 2011 by Vargras Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WTF Posted February 22, 2011 Report Share Posted February 22, 2011 I got DA:O Ultimate Edition just there Still pisses me off I have to have the DVD in the drive though. I mean I typed in a code to activate the damn thing and its all installed on my PC :/ Actually if you don't mind linking your serial to your EA account via EA Download manager you can pretty much have it digitally without you ever putting the CD in. It works pretty much for most currently released EA games. You will need EA Download Manager installed and be willing to download whatever filesize the game is (usually between 2-8GB) and make sure that the drive you install isn't something like FAT32 as it won't initiate then . It does render your retail copy pretty useless and you'd have to uninstall before proceeding with this. Games that currently don't work registering with EADM are the first Mass Effect (2 is fine). I think Spore too, the incompatibility is mostly to do with serial keys being of a different string length and older system.. Most older games work and they're planning on bringing support for most games via that service. Wish they'd just steam it already but they do want to pimp their service (which isn't even required after the game installs). Handy if you want to keep your disc drives free. As for today's Demo it's going to be slow going on the network. Not to mention for those interested Shogun 2's Demo is up on steam as well today. I LOVE YOU. I can still use the code again for the EA DM??? This is so great! Yeah I'd registered Mass Effect 2 and Dragon Age on bioware's social thing (and with EA's site too I believe) before and then just entered the product key again in EADM back in December and it worked fine. Apparently EA's trying to help out in case you do lose your discs but have the keys. I just wish all their games are supported because it's quite handy (since they're still being douchebags about steamworks). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thorgi Duke of Frisbee Posted February 22, 2011 Report Share Posted February 22, 2011 I loved the demo. The boss fight was tough as nails. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheMightyEthan Posted February 22, 2011 Report Share Posted February 22, 2011 I'm still working on the PC download, but at least on the 360 version there was nothing hard in the demo (on Normal difficulty, and it wouldn't let you change it). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thorgi Duke of Frisbee Posted February 22, 2011 Report Share Posted February 22, 2011 I'm still working on the PC download, but at least on the 360 version there was nothing hard in the demo (on Normal difficulty, and it wouldn't let you change it). Then I must really be terrible, because that giant boss at the end killed me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheMightyEthan Posted February 22, 2011 Report Share Posted February 22, 2011 I had to use several health potions during the ogre fight, if that's what you're talking about, but it didn't actually kill me, or really even threaten to once I'd cleared out all the little guys. Also the ogre isn't the end. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deanb Posted February 22, 2011 Report Share Posted February 22, 2011 I played Magicka while my downloaded. It's now installed so I'm gonna rev it up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toxicitizen Posted February 23, 2011 Report Share Posted February 23, 2011 I had to use several health potions during the ogre fight, if that's what you're talking about, but it didn't actually kill me, or really even threaten to once I'd cleared out all the little guys. Also the ogre isn't the end. Yeah, Ogre gave me a hard time but it was easy once I started killing the small ones first. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheForgetfulBrain Posted February 23, 2011 Author Report Share Posted February 23, 2011 I've got to crack open my PC at some point tonight and get my CPU fan spinning before I can give this a go. Finished downloading at least, though! Only took six hours... haa. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheMightyEthan Posted February 23, 2011 Report Share Posted February 23, 2011 Yeah, auto-attack makes it SO MUCH better on PC. Too bad it won't let me use my 360 pad with it though. (Please don't kill me, PC peeps) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mister Jack Posted February 23, 2011 Report Share Posted February 23, 2011 So I tried the demo and I honestly don't see what it is everyone is complaining about. It feels quite similar to DA:O to me, at least where combat is concerned. The only thing I miss is the overhead camera angle. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheMightyEthan Posted February 23, 2011 Report Share Posted February 23, 2011 Yeah, the combat is not as bad as I expected; it's a little too over the top, but I could live with it. I also don't like the new art direction, but again, I could live with it. What really kills it for me is that they completely nerfed the companion inventory system and made the "morality" system so much more obvious, combined with the fact that so much of the other stuff is "I don't like it, but I could live with it." Basically, they crapped up (whether mildly in the case of combat, or severely in the case of inventory) everything I liked about DA:O, without adding anything in to make up for it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toxicitizen Posted February 23, 2011 Report Share Posted February 23, 2011 So I tried the demo and I honestly don't see what it is everyone is complaining about. It feels quite similar to DA:O to me, at least where combat is concerned. The only thing I miss is the overhead camera angle. Frankly I don't know why anyone ever expected it to be drastically different from the first one. It's a sequel and one that is coming pretty quickly considering how much content these games have so it's not like they could've written a whole new engine or anything. The only thing that still bugs me slightly is the change in art style. When Flemeth showed up in the demo, I had difficulties believing it was the same woman I met in DAO. But that really has no bearing on whether it'll be a good game or not. I also miss the tactical overhead camera, but I hardly ever used it, so in my opinion it's no great loss. I'm willing to lose that if it means prettier indoor environments. Yeah, auto-attack makes it SO MUCH better on PC. Too bad it won't let me use my 360 pad with it though. Why would you use a gamepad on the PC version, though? For a game like this, wouldn't a keyboard and mouse feel infinitely more natural? I mean, in my opinion this is a game better enjoyed on the PC so I get why you would go for that version, but if you'd rather use a gamepad than a keyboard, then you probably should stick with the console version. At least that way the interface will have been designed around the gamepad. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pirandello Posted February 23, 2011 Report Share Posted February 23, 2011 The demo was a lot better than I thought it would be. Unfortunately, the conversation options seemed to do crap-all as they didn't really have much holding in the demo other than eliciting responses. The combat is more enjoyable for me this time around, though it is quite irritating to use a multitude of skill flourishes only to spend the next 30 seconds hacking away at the enemy for tiny, tiny chunks of their health, rinse, repeat. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheMightyEthan Posted February 23, 2011 Report Share Posted February 23, 2011 Frankly I don't know why anyone ever expected it to be drastically different from the first one. I imagine it has something to do with the fact that Bioware has been making a big deal about how drastically different, more "action oriented" and "streamlined", the gameplay is. Could be wrong though. Yeah, auto-attack makes it SO MUCH better on PC. Too bad it won't let me use my 360 pad with it though. Why would you use a gamepad on the PC version, though? For a game like this, wouldn't a keyboard and mouse feel infinitely more natural? I mean, in my opinion this is a game better enjoyed on the PC so I get why you would go for that version, but if you'd rather use a gamepad than a keyboard, then you probably should stick with the console version. At least that way the interface will have been designed around the gamepad. Console versions don't support auto attack, which is a deal-breaker. It means combat is A-A-A-A-A-A-A-A-A-A-A-X-A-A-A-A-A-A-A-A-A-A-A-A etc. It's just ridiculously tedious to sit there and hit one button over and over and over. Also, many multiplatform releases auto-detect you using a 360 pad and automatically adopt the 360-type interface to account for that. However, after making my initial post I found the "auto attack nearest enemy" button, which is the main feature I wanted out of the gamepad control style, so I'm good now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vargras Posted February 23, 2011 Report Share Posted February 23, 2011 Unfortunately, the conversation options seemed to do crap-all as they didn't really have much holding in the demo other than eliciting responses. They do affect the relationships between the different characters. It can be hard to see at times, but it's there. I've completed the demo as both a Warrior and Rogue so far, haven't finished it with Mage yet. I'm VERY pleased with Rogue combat in DA2 - melee rogues were horribly boring in DA:O, as your combat consisted of trying to get behind enemies to do backstabs over and over. And even then, their damage paled in comparison to bow rogues. It's a lot more fun and engaging this time around. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deanb Posted February 23, 2011 Report Share Posted February 23, 2011 Meh Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strangelove Posted February 23, 2011 Report Share Posted February 23, 2011 I loved the demo. The animation is tons better this time around and i actually like the art style. flemeth does look too much like a comic book villainess though, but its no big deal. Reminds me of mom from futurama actually. Haha. The fighting is tons more fun and as a rogue, a lot more intersting to watch. i know im a heathen for saying this, but it plays like i wanted the first one to play. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vargras Posted February 23, 2011 Report Share Posted February 23, 2011 i know im a heathen for saying this, but it plays like i wanted the first one to play. Nah, I wouldn't consider that heathen. Dragon Age: Origins was great, sure, but the combat was atrocious. It's a lot more engaging now, and I personally love how minimalistic the UI is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mister Jack Posted February 23, 2011 Report Share Posted February 23, 2011 The quick heal button is much appreciated. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strangelove Posted February 23, 2011 Report Share Posted February 23, 2011 I think im the console gamer pc gamers specifically hate. My bad, bros. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pirandello Posted February 23, 2011 Report Share Posted February 23, 2011 (edited) So... this is shortly after the attack on Lothering, correct? Flemeth sure had a change of costume after the Grey Warden took Morrigan and left. Edited February 23, 2011 by Pirandello 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deanb Posted February 23, 2011 Report Share Posted February 23, 2011 It's a lot more engaging now, and I personally love how minimalistic the UI is. I dislike the UI. Upgrading skills is more fiddly than it needs to be and the whole look of it just looks like they were trying to map an App or something. High Fantasy games should have a high fantasy aesthetic. Same as you load up a sci-fi RPG you don't expect wood carving UI n swirly magical particle effects stuff. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MasterDex Posted February 23, 2011 Report Share Posted February 23, 2011 I think im the console gamer pc gamers specifically hate. My bad, bros. We don't hate you! Seriously though. I can understand why people might prefer the changes over the original. We all have different tastes after all. It's just that we expected Dragon Age to be a series for the old Bioware/CRPG fans but they've changed it to cater to console gamers. I just wish they didn't have to disappoint PC gamers just to make console gamers happy, ya know? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheMightyEthan Posted February 23, 2011 Report Share Posted February 23, 2011 [Flemeth] Reminds me of mom from futurama actually. Haha. That was EXACTLY what I thought. Dragon Age: Origins was great, sure, but the combat was atrocious. The combat style was my favorite thing about DA:O (thought I liked basically everything about it), so I was pleasantly surprised by how little the combat changed after all the "action oriented" hype. I don't like the new animations though. While they're higher fidelity, they're too fast and over the top. Seriously though. I can understand why people might prefer the changes over the original. We all have different tastes after all. It's just that we expected Dragon Age to be a series for the old Bioware/CRPG fans but they've changed it to cater to console gamers. I just wish they didn't have to disappoint PC gamers just to make console gamers happy, ya know? This kind of generalization about "console gamers" irks me. Until recently I was primarily a console game (I've recently relapsed back into PC), and I very much preferred everything about DA:O over what they've done in DA2. Based on the demo, I would pay probably around $30 for DA2. If DA:O had been like this then I probably would have liked it okay, but I wouldn't have loved it like I did, and as is DA2 is just a big step backward in every way that matters (to me). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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