TheMightyEthan Posted January 17, 2011 Report Share Posted January 17, 2011 I'll test right now. *Edit* - Yep, I created a new user profile, didn't sign up for PSN, and tried to launch Netflix. At first it appeared to launch normally, but after a couple seconds of trying to load it popped up a thing that said "You must sign up for Playstation Network." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rocket Lawnchair Posted January 17, 2011 Report Share Posted January 17, 2011 I'll test right now. *Edit* - Yep, I created a new user profile, didn't sign up for PSN, and tried to launch Netflix. At first it appeared to launch normally, but after a couple seconds of trying to load it popped up a thing that said "You must sign up for Playstation Network." hmm intresting. oh well. lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CorgiShinobi Posted January 18, 2011 Report Share Posted January 18, 2011 (edited) If it weren't for PSN stuff and firmware updates, I'd look into it. I did have my PSP hacked, but I restored it back to factory settings when I couldn't wait anymore on the custom firmware updates. I had Final Fantasy VII for two months because it required the latest firmware, so then I said 'eff it. I believe about two months later the custom firmware was available. Edited January 18, 2011 by Atomsk88 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheMightyEthan Posted January 18, 2011 Report Share Posted January 18, 2011 Well due to the way this hack works, it shouldn't take them nearly that long to release new custom firmwares, because the underlying security is broken. So instead of having to re-hack the firmware every time, they already have all the access codes. And Sony can't change the access codes cause they're built into the hardware of the PS3. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yantelope Posted January 18, 2011 Author Report Share Posted January 18, 2011 Apparently people are all bricking their PS3's left and right because of bad CFW. Makes me more nervous. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheMightyEthan Posted January 18, 2011 Report Share Posted January 18, 2011 Well I'm not planning on doing it any time soon. Probably won't do it ever. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rocket Lawnchair Posted January 18, 2011 Report Share Posted January 18, 2011 Well due to the way this hack works, it shouldn't take them nearly that long to release new custom firmwares, because the underlying security is broken. So instead of having to re-hack the firmware every time, they already have all the access codes. And Sony can't change the access codes cause they're built into the hardware of the PS3. yeah, all the current ps3s will always be hackable. the only way to fix this whole is to change the hardware. very funny, using a randomly generated key system and using a static number for the alpha key kinda defeats the security at the base. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
staySICK Posted January 19, 2011 Report Share Posted January 19, 2011 I was reading this today: http://www.joystiq.com/2011/01/17/ps3-hackers-make-modern-warfare-2-unplayable-infinity-ward-ca/ Makes me really glad I have these on XBL. Hard to predict something like that. Are you guys experiencing grievers in other games? funny, I thought MW2 was an unplayable mess on xbl because of hackers. let's just say that hackers = suck across all platforms. This was my biggest concern about the ps3 getting hacked, now it's gonna end up like popular games on xbl Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rocket Lawnchair Posted January 19, 2011 Report Share Posted January 19, 2011 Apparently people are all bricking their PS3's left and right because of bad CFW. Makes me more nervous. mostly people don't know what their doing. reminds me i need to backup my 60 gig. i got like 1 gig of space left. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yantelope Posted January 19, 2011 Author Report Share Posted January 19, 2011 I was reading this today: http://www.joystiq.com/2011/01/17/ps3-hackers-make-modern-warfare-2-unplayable-infinity-ward-ca/ Makes me really glad I have these on XBL. Hard to predict something like that. Are you guys experiencing grievers in other games? funny, I thought MW2 was an unplayable mess on xbl because of hackers. let's just say that hackers = suck across all platforms. This was my biggest concern about the ps3 getting hacked, now it's gonna end up like popular games on xbl Really the Modern Warfare 2 glitchers using the care package exploit was about the worst of it I've seen since the days of Halo 2 DLC(when it was really really bad). Beyond that though XBL is pretty good and bugs usually get killed quick. The difference is now IW is saying that they can't do anything to fix the hackers because the system's security checks are all cracked so patches won't help the problem. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deanb Posted January 19, 2011 Report Share Posted January 19, 2011 Though it only effects MW2. It's fine on Treyarchs titles. So I guess moral of the story is IW should make the MP correctly. (notice the only game where this has become an issue up to now is MW2. tbh I wouldn't be surprised if it has bot all to do with the PS3 hack, but just being shitty in general and a viable scape goat appearing) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yantelope Posted January 19, 2011 Author Report Share Posted January 19, 2011 Yeah, I wonder about that too except that isn't MW2 just the most played game on the PSN? I was reading this about black ops. http://www.destructoid.com/activision-threatens-to-pull-black-ops-ps3-support-192039.phtml Also, if there were crap going on in Killzone 2 or Uncharted 2 Sony wouldn't be blowing the whistle on themselves. Anyone here noticed any grievers in other games? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deanb Posted January 19, 2011 Report Share Posted January 19, 2011 That article is a reason I dislike Jim Sterling. Activision Customer Support guy does not represent the views and opinions of Activsion head honchos. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yantelope Posted January 19, 2011 Author Report Share Posted January 19, 2011 Good point, I just didn't realize that people were crying out about the PS3 version. This was the first I'd heard of it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
staySICK Posted January 19, 2011 Report Share Posted January 19, 2011 I was reading this today: http://www.joystiq.com/2011/01/17/ps3-hackers-make-modern-warfare-2-unplayable-infinity-ward-ca/ Makes me really glad I have these on XBL. Hard to predict something like that. Are you guys experiencing grievers in other games? funny, I thought MW2 was an unplayable mess on xbl because of hackers. let's just say that hackers = suck across all platforms. This was my biggest concern about the ps3 getting hacked, now it's gonna end up like popular games on xbl Really the Modern Warfare 2 glitchers using the care package exploit was about the worst of it I've seen since the days of Halo 2 DLC(when it was really really bad). Beyond that though XBL is pretty good and bugs usually get killed quick. The difference is now IW is saying that they can't do anything to fix the hackers because the system's security checks are all cracked so patches won't help the problem. except people with mods allowing early nukes, (I think) aimbots have been made for xbl, the speedskating / infinite noob tube ammo glitch matches, players with modded / offensive callsigns... mw2 on xbl was a broken mess last I played, which is why I sold it. as for the ps3 blops, I really don't have any issues beyond the connections. Too many times we've been kicked back to the lobby and lost all progress in a match due to poor host migration / connectivity. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rocket Lawnchair Posted January 20, 2011 Report Share Posted January 20, 2011 That article is a reason I dislike Jim Sterling. Activision Customer Support guy does not represent the views and opinions of Activsion head honchos. don't listen to jim sterling, hes a horrible blogger and a lair. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rocket Lawnchair Posted January 21, 2011 Report Share Posted January 21, 2011 hahaha, theres word(rumor) that sony might combat the piracy by adding Blu-ray Disc Serial Keys. wow, that will completely kill the ps3 gray market. gamestop wont be happy with this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
staySICK Posted January 21, 2011 Report Share Posted January 21, 2011 there's been talk of this before the piracy / jailbreak happened. I think like two years ago I read something about a similar rumor on kotaku. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yantelope Posted January 21, 2011 Author Report Share Posted January 21, 2011 hahaha, theres word(rumor) that sony might combat the piracy by adding Blu-ray Disc Serial Keys. wow, that will completely kill the ps3 gray market. gamestop wont be happy with this. You mean like PC games have? Honestly, why haven't consoles gone that route? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheMightyEthan Posted January 21, 2011 Report Share Posted January 21, 2011 Because it doesn't stop piracy. AT MOST it will stop online pirated play. But you can still pirate as long as you don't let the PS3 connect to the net, cause then there's no way for it to check the key. People will make keygens. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yantelope Posted January 21, 2011 Author Report Share Posted January 21, 2011 Piracy isn't the key. It's the second hand market they're trying to kill so why not just use single use cdkeys and kill it once and for all. Why play games? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheMightyEthan Posted January 21, 2011 Report Share Posted January 21, 2011 Since it was in the jailbreak thread I figured we were talking about piracy. As for used games, it still doesn't kill that market completely. Again, it only kills the online-play market, but for a lot of games that doesn't really matter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faiblesse Des Sens Posted January 21, 2011 Report Share Posted January 21, 2011 I can't be the only one who is just sitting back and letting this play out, am I? I'm talking both sides. Sony's solutions and what ends up happening with CFW. It's too early to see how it will go with either one. After all, how do we know they won't end up like how MS handles it? The 360 has had a much worse piracy problem for years now and what MS does is just have incremental patches like the recent one that took care of MW2 and Black Ops problems. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yantelope Posted January 21, 2011 Author Report Share Posted January 21, 2011 (edited) Since it was in the jailbreak thread I figured we were talking about piracy. As for used games, it still doesn't kill that market completely. Again, it only kills the online-play market, but for a lot of games that doesn't really matter. It would kill the single player market if you had to have a key to play and the key wasn't transferable. The second hand market for PC games is pretty much dead for this reason. Also, why do people keep saying that piracry is worse on the XBox. The only way to pirate on the xbox that I'm aware of is through mod chips and mod chips aren't nearly the type of security breach we're talking about with the PS3. The PSP had development almost completely cease because of the piracy brought by pandora batteries and unless Sony gets a handle on this you may see more developers not bring their games to the PS3. Edited January 21, 2011 by Yantelope Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheMightyEthan Posted January 21, 2011 Report Share Posted January 21, 2011 \It would kill the single player market if you had to have a key to play and the key wasn't transferable. The second hand market for PC games is pretty much dead for this reason. It can only check if the key has been used though if you're connecting to the net. Thus my comment about it not mattering as long as you keep it offline. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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