TheMightyEthan Posted August 24, 2012 Report Share Posted August 24, 2012 Wow, that's a shitty parody, unless their goal is to make it seem like real news (unlike the Onion). That is not nearly over-the-top enough. Also, that wasn't the site I first read it on, I found it elsewhere and kept clicking through sources to get to the original to post here, so I probably didn't read it as closely as I should have. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mal Posted August 25, 2012 Report Share Posted August 25, 2012 Maybe this goes here? Old news by now but if you haven't seen it yet, hey, now you can! With Spirit and Opportunity, we couldn't get anything like this. Now, we can pretend we're sky diving onto Mars. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheMightyEthan Posted August 25, 2012 Report Share Posted August 25, 2012 That was cool. I was expecting that computer-animated thing to show what was happening. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deanb Posted September 6, 2012 Author Report Share Posted September 6, 2012 http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2012/09/120905134356.htm Quantum teleportation over 143km distance, enough for satellite communications. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheMightyEthan Posted September 6, 2012 Report Share Posted September 6, 2012 (edited) So I just tried to read up on quantum teleportation and whatnot on Wikipedia, and my head asplode. I can't tell if it's a case of the writers not dumbing it down enough, them dumbing it down too much, or just being a topic which it is impossible to dumb down enough. *Edit* - I think it's that they're dumbing it down too much, because here's what I learned: 1 - Alice and Bob have entangled particles. 2 - Alice measures one aspect of her particle's state. 3 - Alice transmits that information to Bob. (So far so good, I understand it through this point) 4 - Something happens, presumably involving a wizard. 5 - Bob's particle is now identical to the state that Alice measured. All the articles skip step 4, how Bob takes the information sent by Alice and applies it to his particle, so that's where I get lost. Edited September 6, 2012 by TheMightyEthan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deanb Posted September 6, 2012 Author Report Share Posted September 6, 2012 I think quantum teleportation is one of those things where scientists know it works n how it works, but not why it works. Hence step 4 being omitted. Bit like anaesthesia. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheMightyEthan Posted September 7, 2012 Report Share Posted September 7, 2012 But I mean Bob still has to DO something with the data. If I'm Alice and I scream across the room "It's in state 4!" or whatever that's not going to magically transform the particle ("transmit" in this case just means deliver the information in some way). I just want to know what it is Bob does. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deanb Posted September 7, 2012 Author Report Share Posted September 7, 2012 Oh, we just have machines that can put spin on the quantum particles how we want. That's relatively old hat at this point. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mal Posted September 7, 2012 Report Share Posted September 7, 2012 The question is how they are transmitting and receiving the data. From what I understand, its not like me just sending a copy of a file to somewhere over the internet. There seems to be a link between the two particles which are connected to each other in some strange way. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fuchikoma Posted September 7, 2012 Report Share Posted September 7, 2012 (edited) I'm thinking it must be quantum entanglement (simple ver). Edited September 7, 2012 by fuchikoma Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheFlyingGerbil Posted September 7, 2012 Report Share Posted September 7, 2012 A form of transport more inexplicable than quantum teleportation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheMightyEthan Posted September 8, 2012 Report Share Posted September 8, 2012 The question is how they are transmitting and receiving the data. From what I understand, its not like me just sending a copy of a file to somewhere over the internet. There seems to be a link between the two particles which are connected to each other in some strange way. Both are happening. Quantum entanglement that fuchikoma linked to (otherwise known as "spooky action at a distance"... truly; gotta love physicists) is one aspect of it, but the other is "classical transmission", which just means me telling you in some way (radio signal, laser beam, screaming across a room, whatever) something about what I measured. You can take that information and apply it to your half of the entangled pair. But yeah, how you transmit that data really has no impact on the underlying process. The entanglement means that the two particles affect each other instantaneously no matter how far apart they are, but that is useless unless you know what state the other particle was in, which is where the classical transmission comes in (and why it doesn't violate relativistic causality, which requires that information cannot travel faster than the speed of light). Basically even though the effect occurs instantaneously you can't measure it until you've received the classically transmitted information, so no information has been transmitted until you receive that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deanb Posted September 21, 2012 Author Report Share Posted September 21, 2012 http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-19667664 Ig Nobel 2012 awards. As usual it's in some cases rather useful, albeit weird, research. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheFlyingGerbil Posted September 25, 2012 Report Share Posted September 25, 2012 Do you think there is too much going on in the modern world? non of it seems to be making us any happier. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faiblesse Des Sens Posted September 25, 2012 Report Share Posted September 25, 2012 No. I don't. You can silence notifications. You don't have to check that website. You don't have to respond back to that text immediately. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheFlyingGerbil Posted September 25, 2012 Report Share Posted September 25, 2012 but that can gnaw at people's minds until they do check/reply. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thursday Next Posted September 25, 2012 Report Share Posted September 25, 2012 I've actually taken to turning my phone off when out with friends. It removes the temptation to check and see if I have any new texts, tweets, emails etc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fuchikoma Posted September 25, 2012 Report Share Posted September 25, 2012 It takes some willpower, but I agree with FDS. You use technology, not the other way around. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faiblesse Des Sens Posted September 25, 2012 Report Share Posted September 25, 2012 "Don't let technology use you!" I can see this as some sort of PSA. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saturnine Tenshi Posted September 26, 2012 Report Share Posted September 26, 2012 http://newsonjapan.com/html/newsdesk/article/98512.php Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deanb Posted September 26, 2012 Author Report Share Posted September 26, 2012 And stores how much n costs how much? Is it aimed at commercial, consumer or even archivist sector? I understand the properties of quartz but that article has bot all on how it works as a storage medium and not even a brief reference to Superman. edit: The source article points out yeah it's primarily for archiving. Which means price would be high but I'd still be uncertain on capacity. Tape is pretty high capacity (And getting cheap still) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saturnine Tenshi Posted September 26, 2012 Report Share Posted September 26, 2012 You're so British, Dean. <3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fuchikoma Posted September 27, 2012 Report Share Posted September 27, 2012 I think it's cool... but another holographic storage tech we'll never see in stores. In the 90s I read about holographic discs that were 3-5 years off, and later, fluorescent holographic media... and now it's 10-15 years later and it's just never gonna happen (though to be fair, some of them were boasting capacities less than Blu-ray discs, so...) Ah well, the Church of Scientology will love it, I'm sure. Don't they allegedly have glass-coated platinum tablets or something? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deanb Posted October 18, 2012 Author Report Share Posted October 18, 2012 http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-19869673 Amazed no one posted this. Anywho, one of the 2012 Nobel Prizes was a joint award for two teams of scientists who have managed to use regular cells to create stem cells then from there to create clones of frogs n mice. Being able to turn regular cells into Stem Cells is considered a reproductive sciences holy grail. Also opens all kinds of avenues of medicine if you can make stem cells from adult cells. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheMightyEthan Posted October 18, 2012 Report Share Posted October 18, 2012 I look forward to my cloned body parts allowing me to hold on to life long after I should have been rotting in the ground. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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