CorgiShinobi Posted March 15, 2011 Report Share Posted March 15, 2011 (Freaking Comcast, "Dur, you have no Internet" when I do...) I'll make this quick. I might go back to Victini as Solosis has been difficult to train. Primarily have been using Exp. Share. However, it will learn Pain Split, but still, its only attacks are Future Sight and PsyShock. Endeavor requires your Pokemon to be weak, and Hidden Power did barely any damage when I used it. I'm love my Dewott! Taught it Scald, and it knows Revenge, Fury Cutter, and Focus Energy. Might have it learn a different Status move, but it'll learn Encore. Normally don't care for Encore, at all. However, Revenge requires an attack to wipe out the competition! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CorgiShinobi Posted March 16, 2011 Report Share Posted March 16, 2011 One more post before diving into White! I'm thinking of going for this little fella. The problem I had/have with Blitzle/Zebstrika is that they have really poor defense. The stats are very much unbalanced, but not like Joltik/Galvantula! Still, what is the opinion of the mighty TAY PokeCrew on those little Bug-Electric types? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
excel_excel Posted March 16, 2011 Author Report Share Posted March 16, 2011 (edited) Atomsk!! I'm heading to Chargestone cave where you can catch Joltik and I'm planning on raising him as a main Pokemon! His typing and moves are great, plus he's got speed! Oh.... how fucking awesome is the Gym leader's final Pokemon theme music. So awesome and nostalgic too Edited March 16, 2011 by excel_excel Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toshi Posted March 16, 2011 Report Share Posted March 16, 2011 gavantula isn't bad, as he has electro ball(?) and is fast enough to pull it off well. I still prefer my eelektross over it because of it's non-weakness and strong stats. I like the turtle fossil more actually. He may not be as fast or that high of an attack as archeops, but he has good def and access to shell smash, which raises his attack. Plus he doesn't have the crippling ability of Archeops, so yeah. Gamera. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NeoStarr Posted March 16, 2011 Report Share Posted March 16, 2011 I'm thinking of going for this little fella. The problem I had/have with Blitzle/Zebstrika is that they have really poor defense. The stats are very much unbalanced, but not like Joltik/Galvantula! I actually went through the same decision. I tried Joltik out for a bit and didn't have too much luck with him myself, but I got the feeling he might have gotten pretty useful if I had spent more time with him. I fell back on Blitzle for his speed since I didn't have a super fast Pokemon at the time, and that's always useful. But that's just me, he's a decent pokemon so I say try him out. One thing to note though is that Joltik learns a lot more bug type moves than electric as he levels up. If you're looking specifically for a Pokemon with some good electric moves, there might still be a better choice. I'd consider Emolga as well. I revisited a few of the early routes last night and surfed around a bit to find Route 18. It's not listed on the map until you find it; I have a feeling I'm heading toward some kind of secret. There was a dude in a house who wanted to give me an egg too, but I was holding too many pokemon already. Anyway, onward! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hot Heart Posted March 16, 2011 Report Share Posted March 16, 2011 I didn't find my Blitzle was actually fast or powerful enough to make up for its defence. I nicknamed it 'Zapbra' but should've called it 'Deadbra'. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
excel_excel Posted March 16, 2011 Author Report Share Posted March 16, 2011 Same here. Blitzle can suck my Litzle Currently trying to catch a Joltik with a favourable speed nature. Anyway yeah, I think we can all agree capturing Pokemon in Black/White is probably made the easiest of all the Pokemon games. I don't know whether its combonation of you get strong Pokeballs too early, Pokemon being weaker, and getting the False Swipe TM ridiculously early (I don't use it, but you get it after seeing 30 Pokemon in your Pokedex and seeing Prof Juniper) but its piss easy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnny Posted March 16, 2011 Report Share Posted March 16, 2011 I feel like I'm the guy who doesn't know shit about Pokémon. Which is completely alien to me because I'm usually the guy theorycrafting EVERYTHING to absurd details. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CorgiShinobi Posted March 16, 2011 Report Share Posted March 16, 2011 (edited) My Blitzle, like most, had great Speed and Attack along with Sp. Attack. However, the low HP and Defense meant that I would usually get an attack or two before I could possibly switch him out for another Pokemon. After you beat the fourth Gym Leader, Elesa, she gives you TM72: Volt Switch. I taught this to my Blitzle, though it sucked as far as training. If that one move didn't take out the enemy, you're suppose to switch out with another Pokemon. Therefore, (sorta) half the Exp. in battle. Gave him Exp. Share and finally he evolved into Zebstrika, but it was still the same problem. Not as severe, but at most he could take four hits before fainting. While Joltik may not learn a lot of Electric-type moves on his own, there are really good Electric-type TM attacks. I felt kinda bad for getting rid of Electroweb, the Pokemon's signature move, but I want to have Slash (Normal) and Bug Bite (Bug) for a variety of moves. Gastro Acid might be helpful, and it's always good to have, at least, one Status move. EDIT: Also, I went for a Joltik with the Compound Eyes ability. Unnerve is a very specific ability (Opponent can't use Berries), whereas Compound Eyes raises Accuracy by 30%. P.S. I always like the Electric-type Gym Leaders, and I have to say Elesa is my favorite (so far). Burgh is kinda cool, though I probably contribute that to how he helps out against Team Plasma. Edited March 16, 2011 by Atomsk88 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CorgiShinobi Posted March 18, 2011 Report Share Posted March 18, 2011 I caught one of these while surfing through Route 17, and it was at Lv. 7! It took ten PokeBalls as neither of my Pokemon could weaken it without making it faint. I mean, most of my team is at Lv. 37-38! My plan was to kill a lot of time so my Timer Ball could do the job, but after exhausting 7 Ultra Balls, a Dusk Ball, and a Great Ball, somehow a Heal Ball did the job. Meh, pretty pink ball for a floating pink head. P.S. Galvantula is boss! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hot Heart Posted March 18, 2011 Report Share Posted March 18, 2011 You can teach a pokemon 'False Swipe' if you're out to catch weaker ones. That way the opponent is always left with at least 1HP. I've never had to use it but if I met one at level 7, I would probably need it. As excel_excel already pointed out, you can attain that by talking to Professor Juniper (it's obvious you've seen enough pokemon to achieve it). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CorgiShinobi Posted March 18, 2011 Report Share Posted March 18, 2011 (edited) I'm fully aware of False Swipe, what with it being a relatively old technique. However, much like with HM01 "Cut," I usually have a "Move Pokemon" for such situations. Basically, I don't plan on ever teaching my team False Swipe. After all, it was my first time going through Route 17, 18, and P2 Laboratory. I did consider replacing Quick Attack with False Swipe for Unfezant, but I typically treat Quick Attack as a finishing move. Can't quite exactly finish an opponent while leaving 1HP. EDIT: I'm also thinking of revamping my team. Sorry Neo, but using a legendary on my team is like using cruise control. Victini easily has the best stats of any Pokemon (so far), and even when at a type disadvantage, it takes a few good hits before fainting. There's also the fact that legendary Pokemon can't be used for everything in-game. All I know for sure is that Samurott and Galvantula are still permanent members. I was thinking of Litwick, but his final evolution is one of those stone oriented types where it doesn't learn any moves. So the second stage, Lampent, would need to become Lv. 69 before I finally evolve it. Edited March 18, 2011 by Atomsk88 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hot Heart Posted March 18, 2011 Report Share Posted March 18, 2011 (edited) OK, I don't know how familiar you are with the series. I just thought it was odd, wasting 7 Ultra Balls, a Dusk Ball and a Great Ball on a pokemon you just happened to see; especially when a Net Ball might have been a better bet (helps to be prepared). I'd just cut my losses and come back to get it another time. Although, having checked, seeing one of those at level 7 seems very strange. And I'll just clarify, obviously I wasn't suggesting you teach a regular team pokemon a mostly useless move (and I'd never replace Quick Attack either). Edited March 18, 2011 by Hot Heart Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deanb Posted March 18, 2011 Report Share Posted March 18, 2011 Started playing this last night (White with a Snivy) and my oh my has it improved and streamlined considerably over it's older games. I'm loving the tiered exp gain. It might mess up later down the line when I'm using lvl 50's to boost lvl 5's but at the start it's absolutely blasting my pokemon levels up,. Which in turn does mean tougher early battles. Wasn't really expecting lvl 7's just out my home town Love they give you a second starter to balance out the type disadvantage. Shame there's a lot of wi-fi features that I'd miss out on. Definitely picking this up in summer. (which version is recommended btw, White I know get's White Forest with more pokemon, but does Black City have anything to balance that out?) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hot Heart Posted March 18, 2011 Report Share Posted March 18, 2011 I think all it has is more trainers to fight and some (maybe rare?) items on sale. White Forest has a Shinx who is totally badass. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CorgiShinobi Posted March 18, 2011 Report Share Posted March 18, 2011 Actually Heart... I did use a Net Ball, but all that happened was one jiggle/struggle and it broke out. I know I used 10 PokeBalls, so perhaps is was six instead of seven Ultra Balls. Not like I wasted any money since you get a lot of free Ultra Balls. So yeah, because it was an evolved Pokemon at Lv. 7, that's why I made an effort to catch it. Supposedly the game is coded to allow for such Pokemon. I mean, why else would there be a learned move list for Pokemon that evolve at a certain level. Also, I'm glad to have White because of the prospect of the White Forest. Black City is suppose to have a lot of items for sale, but considering I don't have a WEP Wi-Fi connection, and a single DS, getting some of older gen Pokemon is a better option. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deanb Posted March 18, 2011 Report Share Posted March 18, 2011 oh btw. This guy is awesome. not so much. Oh I also hate the resolution of the rear pokemon sprites. They're really low. Why'd they do that? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CorgiShinobi Posted March 18, 2011 Report Share Posted March 18, 2011 Oh I also hate the resolution of the rear pokemon sprites. They're really low. Why'd they do that? It's because all the sprites are relatively the same size, at least from a canvas perspective. I would imagine it's easier to design the rear that way, but as such the game zooms in on your Pokemon. You'll notice that when the Pokemon executes a move, the camera pans out a bit. Also, if you're inactive for a bit, the camera sways across the battlefield. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hot Heart Posted March 18, 2011 Report Share Posted March 18, 2011 Actually Heart... I did use a Net Ball, but all that happened was one jiggle/struggle and it broke out. I know I used 10 PokeBalls, so perhaps is was six instead of seven Ultra Balls. Not like I wasted any money since you get a lot of free Ultra Balls. At least you got it in the end. And, Dean, I don't use either of those but the evolved form of Lillipup has been a formidable opponent a couple of times (damn Takedown). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CorgiShinobi Posted March 18, 2011 Report Share Posted March 18, 2011 (edited) I concur on Stoutland. Take Down is a really dangerous move in Black and White! Nothing wrong with using Lillipup at the beginning. I did the same thing, and they're definitely tough. I just don't bother with Normal-types unless they're tanks like Audino. [EDIT] Well, unless they're Normal-Flying like my cool Unfezant. Might look into Deerling, the Normal-Grass Pokemon. Edited March 18, 2011 by Atomsk88 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toshi Posted March 18, 2011 Report Share Posted March 18, 2011 the buffalo can do some serious damage though. I was surprised how much he could do to my Haxorus. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deanb Posted March 18, 2011 Report Share Posted March 18, 2011 Yeah my lillipup is on par with with Snivly in level cos he's so good against other pokemon. Bummer is when trying to level up rest of my team if I come across another lillipup they kinda kick my ass. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
excel_excel Posted March 19, 2011 Author Report Share Posted March 19, 2011 (edited) That 2nd Gym, the Basic Badge is a something else. After you KO her first Pokemon Herdier, her last Pokemon Watchog's move Retaliate does 140 base damage. Tied with Miltank for hardest early Gym Pokemon! Currently heading through Chargestone cave raised Joltik to LV.32 and am raising her as I walk through. Edited March 19, 2011 by excel_excel Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CorgiShinobi Posted March 19, 2011 Report Share Posted March 19, 2011 Like I said, Galvantula is boss. What bothers me is that the egg I received from Treasure Hunter on Route 18 is going to become a Larvesta, a Bug-Fire type. Yeah, that's awesome, so why should I complain? I already have a partial Bug-type. Galvantula is only weak against Rock- and Fire-type moves. Because it's Bug-Electric it loses the Flying-type weakness. So lets say eventually I could have a Volcarona. It'll be another Pokemon on my team that is weak against Rock-type moves, but what's worse is that the dual type combination makes it even more vulnerable to Rock. There's also the fact that Larvesta doesn't evolve until Lv. 59! Then all its moves are learned every 10 levels... I also put an Excadrill on my team, but I'm not entirely sure if it's permanent. It's weak against Fire, Water, Fighting, and... Ground. Yet, it's a Pokemon with a lot of resistance. Like, half damage to 8 types, a quarter to Rock, and is unaffected by Electric and Poison. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
「Advent Chaos」 Posted March 19, 2011 Report Share Posted March 19, 2011 Wha- I'm so behind! How come I didn't have much trouble getting that second gym badge? 2 Leafstorms (maybe 3) is all it took ._. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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