Hot Heart Posted March 19, 2011 Report Share Posted March 19, 2011 I struggled with that second gym too. Fucking fast Watchog and that Retaliate move. Takes most pokemon out in two hits and it's not as if potions can restore health any quicker. Plus it's level 20 and that's your max level there, I think? I'd say it's a really weird design decision but then JRPGs have always been about grinding. Third gym was a complete pushover though... Reminds me of when I took a Lucario into the Steel Gym in Platinum and just Aura Sphered through everything. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deanb Posted March 19, 2011 Report Share Posted March 19, 2011 Bide btw is a horrible move. If you don't time it right you end up attacking instead of leering/growling when someone uses it. And unless you then kill them in the second blow, they kill your pokemon outright, even if you're a few levels higher. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hot Heart Posted March 19, 2011 Report Share Posted March 19, 2011 (edited) Yeah, it's always been annoying, but I usually finish them in the second hit or use a status move as the second blow. Since it deals double the damage you inflicted upon them, you should still survive if you only attack once though... Edited March 19, 2011 by Hot Heart Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TCP Posted March 19, 2011 Report Share Posted March 19, 2011 So what should I use my masterball on? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CorgiShinobi Posted March 19, 2011 Report Share Posted March 19, 2011 Seriously, Bide is what got me a bit perturbed about high-powered moves early in the game. Of course, yeah, use a good status move and Bide becomes useless. For me the second gym battle was kinda a joke. What made it difficult was my obsession with having a six Pokemon team, so my Pokemon were all Lv. 16-17. It's kinda hard to grind your team to level equally at the beginning. Now I've got Exp. Share and the Lucky Egg to help! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deanb Posted March 20, 2011 Report Share Posted March 20, 2011 www.comicsalliance.com/2011/03/15/weirdest-pokemon-black-white/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hot Heart Posted March 20, 2011 Report Share Posted March 20, 2011 (edited) I will just say that Throh's 'Storm Throw' seems like a cheat of a move. It has an accuracy of 100 and a power of 40, yet its description says 'It always results in a critical hit'. So you have a 100% accurate move that actually does 80 damage every time? Edited March 20, 2011 by Hot Heart Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
excel_excel Posted March 20, 2011 Author Report Share Posted March 20, 2011 (edited) Well technically you don't, as certain Pokemon have abilities that negate critical hits among other things. But yeah basically it is! FUCK.....maybe I should have raised Dwebble in Pokemon Black.....it has a move called Shell Smash. lowers it both defences by 1 stage but increases its both attack stats and speed by 2 stages Edited March 21, 2011 by excel_excel Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CorgiShinobi Posted March 21, 2011 Report Share Posted March 21, 2011 (edited) www.comicsalliance.com/2011/03/15/weirdest-pokemon-black-white/ My friend was telling me about this list yesterday. Glad you brought it up so I can actually give it a look. Before reading, I have to say, the Ghost-type Pokemon always have a really sinister description. Even though there's supposedly no bad Pokemon, I think stealing souls and burning with hell fire is a bit much, right? EDIT: Alright, I'm beginning to think I should wait to catch Virizion because none of the PokeBalls I have are effective in catching it. I did catch it, in one of the battles I didn't cause it to faint, but I wasted 8 Ultra Balls, a Timer Ball, a Heal Ball, a Net Ball, and 2 Dusk Balls before it was caught. I only had to use 2 Dusk Balls before Cobalion was caught, but that's thanks to fighting in a cave. I mean, Virizion broke through those Ultra Balls as soon as they landed! So, if Neo says Quick Balls are cheap Master Balls, so be it. It's only 4x at the first turn, nothing more. It was that way in Gen IV, we'll have it that way in Gen V. Of course, you can't purchase any Quick (or Timer) Balls until you reach the 8th city. Those 3 you get for free, well, I wasted a Quick Ball thinking the second turn was still highly effective. I learned that after the first turn (4x) that every turn counts as 1x (regular PokeBall stat). EDIT2: I'm going with Litwick for a team member. Chandelure has the highest Special Attack of all non-legendary Pokemon, period. Sure it means I won't have a Chandelure until Lv. 69, but at least I'll have a good non-legendary Fire-type. Not to mention that Will-o-Wisp + Hex = Death! Edited March 21, 2011 by Atomsk88 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
「Advent Chaos」 Posted March 23, 2011 Report Share Posted March 23, 2011 Check out what I bought today c: 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toshi Posted March 23, 2011 Report Share Posted March 23, 2011 I am trying to avoid a team with legendaries at all costs. I don't know, if I use them outside a game against people... it takes away enjoyment for me and I feel cheap. Not that my opponents aren't doing the same, but the same 15 pokemon over and over irritates me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
「Advent Chaos」 Posted March 23, 2011 Report Share Posted March 23, 2011 Legendaries were the one reason that turned me off when I bought Platinum, mostly because I was a newcomer to the pokemon games and everyone wanted to obliterate my ass with their buffed up legendaries and what not. I'd say it's all right to use legendaries, as long as you know your opponent will be formidable and can handle it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
excel_excel Posted March 23, 2011 Author Report Share Posted March 23, 2011 Caught two of the legendary.....stags??? After you get Surf after the sixth badge! Also raising an Axew! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CorgiShinobi Posted March 24, 2011 Report Share Posted March 24, 2011 Alright, update time! I did catch Virizion and it only took 2 Ultra Balls! I have all 8 Gym Badges, went through Victory Road, and now I'm at the entrance to the Elite Four. Oh, and I even snagged Terrakion! I used a Quick Ball, which failed, but then after a single Ultra Ball I used a Poke Ball and caught it! However, some problems have risen... Mainly, all my Pokemon are Lv. 45. That's a little weak to face the Elite Four now. I'm still not quite satisfied with my team. Going with Lampent has been a really good choice, but I'm not sure about Mienfoo. Going up Victory Road was dangerous, so it was handy to have Max Repel. Like, Mienfoo is a really awesome Fighting-type, but it still is in a Basic Evolution stage. I'm sure once it finally evolves into Mienshao, it'll be amazing. I too have a Axew, but it has evolved into Fraxure and is about to evolve into Haxorus. I'm wondering if I should stick with a Dragon-type. I mean, once I take on the Elite Four, I could replace Unfezant with Excadrill. Again, Excadrill has amazing resistance, but its mainly a Ground- and Rock-type attack Pokemon. However, Unfezant knows Feather Dance and Roost. All of its attacks are Flying-type, but it could be helpful. QUESTION! How do you guys feel about going sans-starter? Like, for me, there are not that many new Water-types. Samurott is pretty powerful, but that Seismitoad is catching my eye. Its weakness is Grass-type 4x, but it seems like a powerhouse. I could get my Ground-type attacks in, and that way I wouldn't have to worry about Excadrill. Like, my reason for disinterest in Excadrill is that it only has Attack and HP. Its Speed is fairly above average, but everything else is really poor. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hot Heart Posted March 24, 2011 Report Share Posted March 24, 2011 (edited) I've always stuck with my starter because they're obviously quite powerful. I guess it depends how you're covering all your bases. As you implied, Seismitoad would be good against electric pokemon, meaning no need for Excadrill. Samurott can learn Dig but Seismitoad gets STAB from ground and water moves so seems better equipped. It's not like you'd ever send Seismitoad out against a grass-type in the first place, so you don't have to worry about that. Now you're making me start to doubt my Dewott. Edited March 24, 2011 by Hot Heart Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
excel_excel Posted March 24, 2011 Author Report Share Posted March 24, 2011 I completely dropped my started in Heart Gold after about the 5th badge (picked Chikorita), Still Serperior is serving me well! This is easily the best Pokemon ever, I haven't been this addicted since the original Gold. There's no faffing about with long surfing journeys or stuff, cutting down on HM use is a godsend. There is like one Tree to cut in the entire game! Currently in Twist Mountain heading toward the 7th gym. My Team is as follows... Serperior Lv.45 with Giga Drain, Leech Seed and Leaf Blade, its very handy but against a Pokemon strong against it, its fucked. Honestly if it was a wild Pokemon I'd caught, I'd have dropped it, but I've invested too heavily into it. Galvantula Lv.44 Bug and Electric type, with great speed and very good Sp.Atk its handy in a lot of situations, thunderbolt and signal beam (bug type) got ya covered! Darmanitan Lv.44 DARMANITAN IS A FUCKING BEAST OF A FIRE TYPE! Great speed, massive attack, awesome move pool. He has served me so well. My best Pokemon. Excadrill Lv.44 ahh Excadrill, how I love thee. Let me count the ways, great attack, very good speed, resistant against 9 types, unaffected by 2, Ability Sand Force boosts all Rock, Ground and Steel type moves by 30%, a nice movepool.....he's so awesome. Fraxure Lv.42 Fraxure is pretty good, great Dragon type...just biding my time till he evolves into the MIGHTY HAXORUS!! Ducklett Lv.24 my HM slave handy for Surf and Fly Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hot Heart Posted March 24, 2011 Report Share Posted March 24, 2011 Haxorus looks a bit like Halo's Arbiter thanks to its armour. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Jimmeh Posted March 24, 2011 Report Share Posted March 24, 2011 My problem with this generation is that I don't like many of the designs, and that makes it a huge turn-off for me. Like for those posted, I like 2 of the 7 mentioned, those being the starter, and the armoured dino Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CorgiShinobi Posted March 24, 2011 Report Share Posted March 24, 2011 (edited) Since I doubt we'll be playing each other, what with no WPA support on my end, I might as well tell you my moves for two of my Pokemon. Keep in mind these are moves I want ultimately, not that I have them now. Excel, fellow Galvantula Groupie, take note! Galvantula: Thunder, Bug Buzz, Energy Ball, and Light Screen. As of now, he's equipped with Thunderbolt, which should be enough to tackle the Elite Four. Thunder is 120 Sp. Atk, but most importantly has 10 PP. If your Galvantula has Compoundeyes, you don't have to worry about the 70% accuracy. Bug Buzz is the strongest Bug-type Sp. Atk move Galvantula is capable of learning. Pretty much all there is to it. Energy Ball is a Grass-type attack with 80 Sp. Atk. This is one of those moves where, "Well, it's Electric, so do I need another move to take on Water types?" HOWEVER, think of those Ground- and Rock-types! What ties this all together is Light Screen. Light Screen doesn't just add Sp. Def for 5 (or 8) turns, but also doubles the user's Special when attacked by a Special move. The only thing I have to worry about is Brick Break. As such, I don't have to worry about base Attack. I'm sorta regretting giving Joltik some Protein to help with that stat, but Joltik and Galvantula begin with quite a few Physical attacks. So, at the time, it was alright. All there is to worry about is base Defense. Chandelure: Hyper Beam, Flamethrower, Shadow Ball, and Pain Split. First off, I have to say I'm upset at how Litwick or Lampent can not learn Hypnosis. By TM, they can learn Dream Eater, but it's useless without Hypnosis. So much for the description of "hypnotizing enemies with its flames." Anyway, Hyper Beam because of having the highest Sp. Atk of all non-legendary Pokemon. Pain Split will help recover any damage during recharge or typical battling. Flamethrower as it is 95 Sp. Atk with 15 PP. Inferno has 50% accuracy, so no. Overheat is 140 Sp. Atk, but only has 5 PP. Oh, and I'm not big on the whole reduces Sp. Atk by two stages! Sure Chandelure has the highest Sp. Atk, but I would like to keep it that way. Shadow Ball because it's the strongest Ghost-type attack you'll have... Well, Hex technically is as it'll go 100 Sp. Atk if the opponent has a status problem. However, I would be removing Will-O-Wisp in favor of Pain Split. Besides, Hex would be a two-part attack if I went ahead with that strategy. It's fine against average computer players, but higher leveled Trainers and humans won't give you much room to string an average combo. So yeah, going with a 80 Sp. Atk move over the (potential) 100 Sp. Atk move. Edited March 24, 2011 by Atomsk88 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
excel_excel Posted March 24, 2011 Author Report Share Posted March 24, 2011 Of course! *snaps fingers* My Galvantula has compoundeyes too so Thunder would be preferable for once to Thunderbolt! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baconrath Posted March 25, 2011 Report Share Posted March 25, 2011 Ducklett Lv.24 my HM slave handy for Surf and Fly Small birds make the best aircraft. Also, has anyone caught a Golett or raised a Golurk yet? It looks like it would be a good wall and plus it is a GOAST ROBOT. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CorgiShinobi Posted March 25, 2011 Report Share Posted March 25, 2011 Excel, as a current Haxorus owner, I would be careful with him. It would appear that his weakness right now is the lower HP. Like, I'm having difficulty keeping him alive through a few battles because of the weak Sp. Def. Base Defense is a little above average, but I have to say, Garchomp from Gen IV is looking better. Sure that Dragon-Ground type had an Ice weakness of 4x, but all of its stats are superior to Haxorus, with the exception of base Attack (but barely). Yet, if we're to devise a Gen V team, I'm now considering... Right now, what really impresses me about Hydreigon is that it can learn 16 of the 17 types. The only move type its unable to learn is... Grass-type. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toshi Posted March 25, 2011 Report Share Posted March 25, 2011 Since I won't be battling most of you probably, he's currently my special sweeper. He's a beast at what he does, and can laugh down most pokemon quite easily Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deanb Posted March 25, 2011 Report Share Posted March 25, 2011 Does that c-gear thing ever 1) improve 2) go away? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toshi Posted March 25, 2011 Report Share Posted March 25, 2011 idk, to save batteries I turn it off Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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