TCP Posted July 10, 2012 Report Share Posted July 10, 2012 I really wish Sony would bring the way they organize trophies on the Vita, to the PS3. Being able to see exactly how much % you have on each game, the standalone game, and the DLC packs is awesome. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheMightyEthan Posted July 10, 2012 Report Share Posted July 10, 2012 I agree. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strangelove Posted July 10, 2012 Report Share Posted July 10, 2012 That'd be nice, but I doubt itll happen. Theres a limit to what the PS3 can do retroactively. I think weve reached it. Im still surprised it got this far. Adding stuff that wasn't meant for it is kind of neat, especially stuff like the trophy system or dynamic themes all while making the xmb faster, though not fast enough. I cant imagine what a pain in must have been to add shit like that after the machine was built so specifically. But I don't know shit about computers, so maybe it was really easy. Â I kind of want the vita to have dynamic themes though. Its entirely possible. Im not sure why, but I love dynamic themes. I think theyre great. Live wallpapers were one of the reasons I also liked my Android phone. I just think its a really cool feature. Im honestly surprised Windows 7 doesnt have live wallpapers. Is that kind of thing even possible? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
danielpholt Posted July 10, 2012 Report Share Posted July 10, 2012 The one thing Windows Phone has nailed down is that home screen. I dont know that wallpapers would work at all. And as for live wallpapers, I'm far to concerned about my battery to bother with those. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faiblesse Des Sens Posted July 10, 2012 Report Share Posted July 10, 2012 The one thing Windows Phone has nailed down is that home screen. I dont know that wallpapers would work at all. And as for live wallpapers, I'm far to concerned about my battery to bother with those. Â Agreed. Live Wallpapers drain battery and look tacky. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TCP Posted July 10, 2012 Report Share Posted July 10, 2012 That'd be nice, but I doubt itll happen. Theres a limit to what the PS3 can do retroactively. I think weve reached it. Im still surprised it got this far. Adding stuff that wasn't meant for it is kind of neat, especially stuff like the trophy system or dynamic themes all while making the xmb faster, though not fast enough. I cant imagine what a pain in must have been to add shit like that after the machine was built so specifically. To be honest, that's my biggest disappointment with the Vita. The impression I got, pre-release, was that it was going to be fully connected with the PS3. In some ways, yeah it is, transferring my MGS HD saves is super easy, and doesn't even require a cable, but in other ways, it hasn't lived up. I can't see which friends are online on my PS3, I can't view my Vita trophies, and some of the things they demonstrated, like playing PS3 games remotely via the Vita hasn't arrived. I know not everyone cares about that feature, but it's a convenience I was looking forward too. But yeah, I think Strangelove nailed it, especially in regards to trophies/friends on PS3. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strangelove Posted July 10, 2012 Report Share Posted July 10, 2012 Well, that's kind of a negative and a positive. The reason the PS3 and Vita don't gel together that well has little to do with the Vita, it's the PS3 that has the problem. The Vita was made with the next PS home console in mind more than the PS3. It made everything the PS3 had, but better. The PS3 is the one that cant see Vita trophies, the one that cant do remote play as flawlessly as you'd think, the one that cant see Vita friends. Either its impossible to patch that on PS3, or its too much work for Sony to do it this late int he console's life. Â If the Wii U becomes a success, I expect Remote Play to be a big deal with the next Playstation. Just as a "me too!" sort of thing. As it stands now, its just a novelty. Ive used it for maybe 5 minutes to play MGS1 a few years back. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TCP Posted July 10, 2012 Report Share Posted July 10, 2012 I know that, I think it speaks volumes that, other than maybe a shortage of games (but that's to be expected early in a handheld's lifecycle, and I still prefer the Vita library over the 3DS), my main issues with the Vita, are actually the PS3's problems. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fuchikoma Posted July 10, 2012 Report Share Posted July 10, 2012 It's interesting how Vita trophies don't quite seem to count as trophies - I have it set up so that new PS3 trophies appear on Facebook, but it doesn't seem possible on the Vita yet - and like TCP said, you can't even view them on a PS3. There's really no technical limitation on this - I think it would just take a PS3 software update, depending on how they really implement it on the Vita. Â Though honestly, if I could change anything about the trophy system, I'd have the PS3 and Vita cache game icons... It's kind of ridiculous that you go to compare trophies with someone and it sits there... loads a few games from the end, grabs a few from the start... some pop in from the middle... some icons appear... etc. It's one area XBL has them beat, and hard - I can compare games with someone in the moments between games or levels on the 360, but on the PS3 it's like something you'd only want to start up in your downtime when you're not doing anything else. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strangelove Posted July 10, 2012 Report Share Posted July 10, 2012 Well, you CAN post your Vita trophies on Facebook. As well as your purchases and ratings. It's exactly as the PS3. It should be under the PS Network option at the bottom. Also, Vita trophies do add to your overall trophy "score". You just cant see them on your PS3 individually. Â And I also dont get why trophies have to load every single time you want to look at them. Im not sure why they havent fixed that. On the Vita you cant even see PS3 trophies unless you connect online. Theyre not stored anywhere on the system. Its just weird. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faiblesse Des Sens Posted July 10, 2012 Report Share Posted July 10, 2012 Your Vita doesn't have a HDD. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fuchikoma Posted July 10, 2012 Report Share Posted July 10, 2012 (edited) That's cool, Strangelove... You keep pointing out Sony features I want that are already there, haha - I set it up so long ago I thought it was an account-level, not system-level thing. Â And FDS, it may not have a spinning magnetic platter, but anyone who wants to save games and other data has a memory card installed in it. Right now I've loaded mine with high res videos just to put it to use, but I still have like 20+ GB free, so putting like, 2MB of that toward icons wouldn't be a big loss. Â (* Though I'm not certainly assuming that's the real bottleneck - it looks like it's at least one of them.) Edited July 10, 2012 by fuchikoma Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheMightyEthan Posted July 10, 2012 Report Share Posted July 10, 2012 Wait, PSN friends don't carry over from PS3 to Vita and vice-versa? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strangelove Posted July 10, 2012 Report Share Posted July 10, 2012 No they do, but your PS3 friends cant see you playing Gravity Rush/any other Vita game. It wont say it on your PSN status. Kind of like when youre watching a bluray or a videofile. Its just blank. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faiblesse Des Sens Posted July 10, 2012 Report Share Posted July 10, 2012 That's cool, Strangelove... You keep pointing out Sony features I want that are already there, haha - I set it up so long ago I thought it was an account-level, not system-level thing. Â And FDS, it may not have a spinning magnetic platter, but anyone who wants to save games and other data has a memory card installed in it. Right now I've loaded mine with high res videos just to put it to use, but I still have like 20+ GB free, so putting like, 2MB of that toward icons wouldn't be a big loss. Â (* Though I'm not certainly assuming that's the real bottleneck - it looks like it's at least one of them.) Â My point was that they're not going to cache data like that on removable storage. It would have to be internal and clearly they would rather use that space for other things. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheMightyEthan Posted July 10, 2012 Report Share Posted July 10, 2012 @Strangelove: That sounds like an issue with Sony's online system, not the PS3 itself; like the PSN isn't seeing you as playing the game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TCP Posted July 10, 2012 Report Share Posted July 10, 2012 No they do, but your PS3 friends cant see you playing Gravity Rush/any other Vita game. It wont say it on your PSN status. Kind of like when youre watching a bluray or a videofile. Its just blank. Yeah your friends online with their Vitas will still appear offline on your PS3, and after they log off they won't have a "last signed on", so they'll be waaayy at the bottom of your list. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheMightyEthan Posted July 10, 2012 Report Share Posted July 10, 2012 Yeah, definitely sounds like a network issue, not a PS3 issue. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fuchikoma Posted July 10, 2012 Report Share Posted July 10, 2012 My point was that they're not going to cache data like that on removable storage. It would have to be internal and clearly they would rather use that space for other things. Â There's no real reason to assume that though. For one thing, the way the Vita works, you pretty much install the card and forget it. There's not much reason to be swapping cards out all the time. Besides, it's a cache - even if you switched cards and it wasn't present, it's not going to bring the system to a halt - it'd just download from scratch and build a new one. Even if you accessed the trophies with no card inserted, it could just download the icons for that session alone. Apart from possible speed issues, there is no reason not to cache on removable media as long as it doesn't get removed in mid-write. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strangelove Posted July 10, 2012 Report Share Posted July 10, 2012 Well, that's what $ony said. I can't make sense of a lot of the shortcomings when it comes to the two being cohesive. I'm sure some stuff is not Possible, some stuff was badly scheduled, and some stuff was just a dumb oversight. Â I never noticed this, but the Vita store has a ridiculous amount of omissions. If you don't have a ps3 or don't look online, there's absolutely no way to know about the recent psp sales. You can't even buy premium avatars and we don't even have a wallpaper section yet. Basic stuff that will someday probably get fixed. Â And even more than ps1 support, ps+ is entirely nonexistent on the Vita. No sales or anything. It just seems stupid on their part. But I suppose this is the price to pay for being an early adopter. Â Overall, I'm very happy with my Vita, but I have a lot of little things I'd like added to it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheMightyEthan Posted July 10, 2012 Report Share Posted July 10, 2012 Sony's not a software company, and I think it shows in the launch-states of Playstation products. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faiblesse Des Sens Posted July 10, 2012 Report Share Posted July 10, 2012 What? Sony has supported their launches great software wise. Â ...but no one else did. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strangelove Posted July 10, 2012 Report Share Posted July 10, 2012 I think he means the OS more than the games. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faiblesse Des Sens Posted July 10, 2012 Report Share Posted July 10, 2012 Yeah, and the OS was great from the start, certainly better than what the competition was doing. Â There might be a point in there about platform. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TCP Posted July 10, 2012 Report Share Posted July 10, 2012 (edited) AGREED PS+ on Vita would be great. I wonder what the hold up is? There's not a ton of Vita games yet, but they could discount PSP games. Edited July 10, 2012 by TheCowboyPoet Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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