PS Vita

[Strangelove]

Good news, everyone!

http://www.xperiablog.net/2012/08/16/ps-one-classics-dropped-from-playstation-mobile-third-party-support-revealed/

 

"Sony confirmed that over 100 PS One classics will be available to download on the handheld from August 28th including Final Fantasy VII, Metal Gear Solid, and Resident Evil 2."

[danielpholt]

Looks like my Mobile will be getting PS certified too. Not that i'll play anything on it. I've got the Vita for that. Roll on the 28th.

[Strangelove]

http://gamerxchange.net/2012/08/25/playstation-vita-bundles-will-have-memory-cards-available-for-pre-order/

 

Well, they put the 4gb memory card back. So 250 bucks for a Vita, a 4GB card, and either AC3 Liberation or CoD. It sounds like a fantastic deal to me.

 

I doubt itll stop the bitching about a price drop though.

[danielpholt]

I think i paid £301($475) for the Vita, a 16gb Memory Card and a copy of Uncharted. So yes, that is a steal. As for the price drop, i don't know that Sony can afford to do it. I've gotta assume they're already selling the system as cheap as they can go without losing money on it.

[TheFlyingGerbil]

The problem is it's less about being good value (it is) than it is about being cheap (it's not).

 

Most people interested in gaming will buy a home console first, so they don't need a handheld as such, especially one perceived (rightly or wrongly) as replicating a home console. That means for the vita to sell to the masses and in mass volume it basically has to fall in to impulse purchase price range so that when someone sees a game they like the look of on it they don't have to think too long or hard if they can justify the price of the console to play it on.

[danielpholt]

Is £150 not an impulse purchase? I wouldn't expect or even want Sony to start selling the Vita for any less than £150, and i think its a little unfair to expect them too.

[Strangelove]

Different things are worth different to different people. I personally love my Vita. Before the Vita, my favorite handheld was the GBA SP.

But now it's 3: GBA Sp, 2: Vita, 1: my dick.

 

I paid 250 for it with no card or game and I still feel fine about it. I think it takes a solid day to toy around with it to see it's awesome and totally worth the price. The game's prices have also hit a sweet spot. For me, 60 was too much for console games and 40 seemed too much for DS/3DS games. On the other hand, Vita game's production values are somewhere down the middle, but theyre still 40 bucks. Im ok with that. im REALLY ok with that.

[TheFlyingGerbil]

It's not £150 anywhere near me, £170 is cheapest but that is the console on its own, Seems you need to spend at over £200 for the console and a decent sized memory card. £250 with a game.

 

strange quote:"I paid 250 for it with no card or game and I still feel fine about it. I think it takes a solid day to toy around with it to see it's awesome and totally worth the price."

that only reinforces my points, really. Hardly typical to purchase a console without a game or required accessory. Had it been cheaper would you have walked out of the shop with a game and a memory card? and I would hazard a guess you're more than a recreational gamer too, which is who Sony need to pull in not the enthusiast gamers like us who will seek out new products.

Edited August 26, 2012 by TheFlyingGerbil

[Strangelove]

The Vita and the PSP before it was made for the "hardcore" gamer. It was made with them in mind. Theyre the ones who always want better graphics, better sound, better control. The 3DS is made for...pretty much everyone. That's just the road they decided to travel. Its not made for moms to randomly get for their kids on Xmas. With Nintendo around, Sony can try and try, but itll never have that demographic.

Sadly for Sony, the "hardcore" gamer that they try to please has become an entitled douchebag.

 

I sold stuff and saved money. Got the system, a 16gb card and a game. Im just not seeing the big deal here. If youre too poor to afford such a luxury item, by all means go for the cheaper alternative. But honestly thinking the Vita and the 3DS should be priced equally is retarded. We can argue about the quality of the games all day, but the Vita is actually worth 250(last I heard it was 160 or 180 in manufacturing alone), unlike the 3DS(Im scared to guess, but Im guessing about 100 or less in manufacturing). The 3DS currently is priced as it should have been from the beginning. The Vita is too.

And yes, the cards are overpriced as fuck. They need to change that. Thats the biggest flaw I personally see.

 

I guess Sony should have made a shittier Vita with a shitty screen and shitty graphics to bring down the price. I guess that's what people want. Actually, I don't have to guess. I know.

 

Im actually pretty sad how Nintendo has now set a precedent for a VERY quick price cut. The 3DS did it, so now the Vita should do it too. Soon enough if the Wii U doesnt sell as expected, people will want the same thing.

After the 3DS pulled that shit, the conversation changed from "Ill wait til it's on sale" to "Ill wait til it gets a price cut." That is truly awful behavior to have for a hobby people claim to love. Are we so entitled that we dont understand the concept of being...poor? Or having a price range? If you cant afford something, you cant afford something. Its that easy. Save money, wait for a sale, buy it used, Ebay, Craigslist, Amazon Warehouse Deals, whatever. Why should others bend over and get fucked just because you cant afford something? Im usually not on the side of giant corporations, but the entitlement among the average gamer has gotten out of hand. It's sick.

 

And Im not trying to be a Sony fanboy and a Nintendo basher. Its just the way things have happened in the last couple of months. I hope everyone buys those Vita memory cards used so Sony doesnt get any money. That is something that is severely ovepriced and worth actually sticking up for. They need to change that. On the other hand, the Wii U should be priced between 300 and 350. That to me is reasonable. If I cared about the Wii U, id pay that much for it. I hope others feel the same way. Otherwise, I guess theyll have to wait til Nintendo caves. Then once they cave, Sony and MS cave to their new systems. And I guess we...win? Is that it?

Edited August 27, 2012 by Strangelove

[TheMightyEthan]

I know I'm just picking one little thing out from what you said, but:

 

I'd expect the Wii U to launch at $250-300. $300 seems high because it's not really much of a step up from PS360, but $200 seems too low for a new console which is why I say $250. $250 would also make it more attractive to the casual market that Nintendo has done so well with recently.

[Strangelove]

Well, Id agree, except that I think the pad might be pricey. I dunno. I doubt its 50 bucks like a PS3/360 controller. Itd be awesome if it was, but I doubt it highly. Thats what Ive been most curious about. The price of that pad. The system itself? Yeah, 200 bucks would be fine. Id have no problem with it.

[Faiblesse Des Sens]

...why wouldn't the pad come with the console? The things being made with cheap components.

[Strangelove]

New Vita firmware is up. PSone compatibility in the US is....sketchy. About 10 games will show up in the store to buy tomorrow when the store updates.

If you already own PS1 games, some are able to be downloaded from your download list in the store and some can be downloaded off your PS3(some games can be transferred if you DONT install them on the PS3 and some if you DO install them).

 

Europe on the other hand has tons of games that can be downloaded. The US has to figure them out manually.

[TCP]

Can't seem to download ANY PSOne games from the Vita store (probably due to my raging case of Canadianitis), but I was able to transfer Final Fantasy VI from my PS3, but only if it was not installed. The good news is, it reads me saved data from my PSP.

 

Using the d-pad to control the menu is awesome, but a lot of apps need to be updated to use it, like the PSN Store.

 

EDIT: I got Symphony of the Night, Final Fantasy VI, Final Fantasy VII, and Metal Gear Solid to transfer. Also of note: I have a lot of PSOne games.

 

More Editing: Final Fantasy Origins works but Final Fantasy V doesn't

Edited August 28, 2012 by TheCowboyPoet

[danielpholt]

I'll be over here waiting for tomorrow morning. I want me some Final Fantasy V11.

[Strangelove]

Well, 8 out of my 9 PSone games I tried worked, so that's good. Only one that didnt work was Pocket Fighter, but then again that doesn't work for the PSP either. Doesn't bother me too much, but I am curious as to why it doesnt even work on the PSP. Only on PS3.

 

So looking at the European list last night, I noticed that they not only have BoF3, but they also have both Fear Effect games? Are you fucking kidding me? Ugh.

 

Anyways, I also noticed I dont own MGS1 or FF9 yet. Weird. I would have thought that I would have bought them, but most likely I didnt have money when they came out, so I just ignored them.

 

I also suggest no one buy anything from the PSN store til after today's update.

Edited August 28, 2012 by Strangelove

[TCP]

So, Final Fantasy Origins, VI - IX, Vagrant Story, and Xenogears all worked for me. The only games I have that the Vita won't recognize is Chrono Cross and Final Fantasy V.

 

Anyways, now that my card is almost full, here's my Vita collection. Bask in it's glory! Bask!!!

 

My Vita collection:

My Final Fanta-- I mean PSOne collection:

My PSP collection:

Edited August 29, 2012 by TheCowboyPoet

[Strangelove]

Nice. If there arent any sales today, Ill probably get MGS1 and FF9. Might as well.

 

Wipeout 2048, Lumines, Disgaea 3, and Ninja Gaiden Sigma need to go on sale soon.

I think I might just cave and get Wipeout 2048 at the store since it's 20 bucks and god knows when PSN will change the price.

 

BTW the white background on the PSone bubbles look so much better than the ugly grey background on the PSP bubbles. Ugh.

Edited August 28, 2012 by Strangelove

[TheMightyEthan]

You can put different wallpapers on different screens?!

[TCP]

Yes! I need a good PSOne background. Unfortunately you can't take screen shots of PS1 games on the Vita.

[Strangelove]

Umm...yeah. You can also take screenshots of Vita games and use them as wallpapers. Or just download wallpapers through the browser. Or use Paint Party to draw your own wallpaper. You can also change the lockscreen wallpaper.

 

Anyways, here's ma shit.

 

 

 

Edited August 28, 2012 by Strangelove

[fuchikoma]

You may find that sometimes when you take a wallpaper for a PC desktop or other non-Vita device, put it on the Vita, and use it, the resizing is kind of crappy. There's a fix though - just view the same picture in the Photo app, size it how you like, and take a screenshot with PS+Start. Now you have a smoothly-resized wallpaper version.

[Thursday Next]

I *love* the Beck Sound Shapes™ levels. Especially "Touch the People".

[TheMightyEthan]

I feel inadequate now, but here's mine:

 

 

I also have P3P but I haven't transferred it from my PS3 yet.

[Strangelove]

BTW, if you want to transfer screenshots to PC, just use the Flickr app to upload them and go to your flickr account on your pc to download them. Its the easiest way Ive found.