deanb Posted October 18, 2011 Author Report Share Posted October 18, 2011 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faiblesse Des Sens Posted October 19, 2011 Report Share Posted October 19, 2011 I think it's hilarious that Chrome is more bloated than Firefox at this point and is only moving towards more bloat whereas Firefox is doing the opposite. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deanb Posted October 19, 2011 Author Report Share Posted October 19, 2011 We may have different terms for the word "bloat". If you're taking up RAM, but actually using it then it's not really bloat. If you're taking up RAM n more RAM n more and still doing the same stuff, there's a problem. It's like filling up the fridge with tons of food n fruit n all that, as opposed to just filling it up with a dozen bottles of water. You know other day I opened up Firefox FireFTP, once done close it up and then many hours later I'm in the task manager and who do I see but FF just sitting their nomming on 250megs. It's not open, it's not doing anything, still using up RAM. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faiblesse Des Sens Posted October 19, 2011 Report Share Posted October 19, 2011 I'm talking about Chrome adding features and the browser slowing down. lifehacker.com/5844150/browser-speed-tests-firefox-7-chrome-14-internet-explorer-9-and-more Also, you mention then an extension, then bitch about Firefox's memory usage. Sorry bro, but that's your extension. Anyways, why use more RAM to do the same thing? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deanb Posted October 19, 2011 Author Report Share Posted October 19, 2011 Bit of a flaw for a browser that boasts massive extensions support to have it cause memory issues no? It causes no issue for Chrome and I have much more extensions installed as it's my main browser. Also you just kinda made a chrome only link. Opening that link in Firefox would require some ye old new tab, copy, paste instead of "right click - go to" The RAM n boot up tests are mostly useless anyway (unless for each test they're doing a complete re-install of Windows too but I doubt that). Windows as of Vista onwards has had pre-caching n new RAM usage. For example if I was to do a boot up time test Chrome would smoke all other browsers just because it's pre-cached. If Chrome was to act the same way with RAM as FF then I'd be bogged down by it taking up GBs of RAM (I rarely close Chrome) And as usual it still smokes all other browsers when it comes to javascript which is one of the major areas where it counts. The reason for the major difference between Firefox and Chrome is because FF is years of code built upon an old abandoned web browser. Whereas Chrome has been built from the ground up as a web platform. Firefox is built for an age where you'd browse geocities, Chrome is built for an age where you use actual OS-like applications in the browser. Hence the javascript boost, NaCl, Dart, Web Store, ChromeOS. Whereas Mozilla has an ever growing list of abandoned Labs projects (even the ones not listed as inactive haven't been touched for over a year). (Also you don't need to edit the UI to get your extensions to show up too, real fucking user friendly there mozilla) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
madbassman39 Posted October 19, 2011 Report Share Posted October 19, 2011 My boss at work uses the new internet explorer (what ever number its on now) and I gotta say, I was impressed. Not enough to leave chrome, but enough to say "hey, maybe i'll update my IE on my computer" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deanb Posted October 19, 2011 Author Report Share Posted October 19, 2011 IE9? Yeah after IE7 came out and they're was a large chunk of "hey MS, maybe you should update your browser more often than once a decade", they really moved on. IE10 Metro is even more departed from the old days. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
madbassman39 Posted October 20, 2011 Report Share Posted October 20, 2011 I just upgraded my IE to 9 just to see how it is. Its... bitter. I love chrome because of how quick it launches and loads up my home page, IE still takes a long time to load up, and not to mention how long it takes for the browser open a new tab. Sure its not the longest and is reasonably quicker than what it used to be, but not as quick as Chrome. Still a lot of improvements and a lot of good ideas. I think even if Microsoft makes a competent browser, people will still not use it if it has the Internet Explorer name. I'm surprised Microsoft has stuck with the name as its now a browser you avoid even if it improves vastly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deanb Posted October 20, 2011 Author Report Share Posted October 20, 2011 It's a browser half of users avoid, half of people still stick with it and its name is pretty good. It's right there , it's an "Internet Explorer" and that's what it does. I think part of the reason Chrome has taken off as well as it has is because it's Google Chrome, and Google is the internet for many people. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnny Posted October 20, 2011 Report Share Posted October 20, 2011 If Chrome didn't start performing oddly on a high amount of tabs, it'd surely be my permanent browser. I'm currently back on FF, although I have to reboot it once in a while to avoid it eating CPU... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
madbassman39 Posted October 20, 2011 Report Share Posted October 20, 2011 It's a browser half of users avoid, half of people still stick with it and its name is pretty good. It's right there , it's an "Internet Explorer" and that's what it does. I think part of the reason Chrome has taken off as well as it has is because it's Google Chrome, and Google is the internet for many people. I don't mean the name is bad, just that the name is now associated (with the web savvy crowd) with terrible performance. And yes, many people still use it, mostly because its the web browser that comes with their computer. My parents never used chrome or FF, and stuck with IE, until I installed Chrome on their computer when I was computerless for a month. They now refuse to use IE because the performance on chrome was much better for them. This, of course, was during IE7's time, so it was only natural that anything and everything was better. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deanb Posted October 26, 2011 Author Report Share Posted October 26, 2011 So when Chrome first came out there was questions raised about Googles funding of Firefox (of which they provide 90% of Mozillas funding through Search Engine referrals). Their current contract is set to expire next month. I believe this may or may not answer the question of what's in the future of Mozilla funding: http://www.firefoxwithbing.com/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faiblesse Des Sens Posted October 26, 2011 Report Share Posted October 26, 2011 Interesting connection. That didn't click with me when I saw an article on FF with Bing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deanb Posted October 27, 2011 Author Report Share Posted October 27, 2011 Certainly helps Mozilla make a statement about Google not having a monopoly on their funds. Of course Chrome is eating Firefoxs' market share more than it's eating IE's so I have a feeling Google have have their cake and eat it too. Either way Mozilla is either hugely reliant on the creator of IE or the creator of Chrome. (Or they end it now n sign up with Yahoo) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deanb Posted December 21, 2011 Author Report Share Posted December 21, 2011 http://blog.mozilla.com/blog/2011/12/20/mozilla-and-google-sign-new-agreement-for-default-search-in-firefox/ So as an update to that whole "firefox with bing, maybe google won't be doing it this time around" stuff. Yeah it's still gonna be Google. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faiblesse Des Sens Posted December 21, 2011 Report Share Posted December 21, 2011 One of the reasons I saw someone drop in a comment was that it's still mutually beneficial because the loser (as in, dropping market share like crazy) will remain IE. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deanb Posted December 21, 2011 Author Report Share Posted December 21, 2011 Chrome is currently set to overtake IE, and as far as individual versions go Chrome 16 is already the most used browser in the world. I read something the other day about MS now pushing through IE updates regardless. If you have Windows Automatic Updates turned on it'll update IE for you. Seems they're really taking a solid stance on that. I know MS already hates IE6 and its continued existence, but seems they want to hate IE7-9 too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnny Posted December 21, 2011 Report Share Posted December 21, 2011 I'm back on Opera for various reasons, although the latest versions has one particular feature (tab stacking) that you can't turn off and sucks insane ass. Maybe I should go look for an older version. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deanb Posted January 26, 2012 Author Report Share Posted January 26, 2012 http://www.infoworld.com/d/applications/google-chrome-remixes-worth-trying-out-184923 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
madbassman39 Posted January 26, 2012 Report Share Posted January 26, 2012 Thanks for that link Dean. I love google chrome, but its getting pretty sluggish with every update. I honestly want to switch back to firefox, but the way Chrome you just type f then enter and it takes you to the most visited f site (facebook for me) is so convenient that I won't switch until firefox adds that feature. Sure its really not that big of a deal, but honestly its enough to make me want to stick with Chrome Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faiblesse Des Sens Posted January 26, 2012 Report Share Posted January 26, 2012 You mean typing "f" in the address bar? Because Firefox has had that functionality since forever. Bookmark the site and make the keyword "f." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
madbassman39 Posted January 27, 2012 Report Share Posted January 27, 2012 (edited) Your probably going to think that I am being nitpicky, but to me its the difference from one browser to the other. With Firefox, you type "F" and you press down and enter to go to Facebook. With Chrome you type "F" and enter. It cuts out pressing down on your keyboard. Its so much faster and convenient that I will not move back to Firefox until they put this in. EDIT Woah, miss-read your last post FDS, you can just make it so you hit "F" and enter and thats how you get there? I'm intrigued. EDIT2 I just figured out how to do that, but its not entirely the same. With Chrome it is predictive, so if you are typing face it will predict that you are going to type facebook, so you could be type "F" enter, "fa" enter, "fac" enter and so on. Still I might be making my switch to firefox now though Edited January 27, 2012 by madbassman39 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faiblesse Des Sens Posted January 27, 2012 Report Share Posted January 27, 2012 Yep, Firefox just doesn't have the prediction so instead of f+enter it's f+down+enter. Personally, I find it annoying that it predicts searches and I'll end up searching when I'm trying to go to a website. That's what happens when a search engine company builds a browser! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheFlyingGerbil Posted May 2, 2012 Report Share Posted May 2, 2012 I'm going back to opera. It used to be my main browser, I don't know why I left it as it "feels" like the right browser for me. I've tried going back to it over the years but it's never stuck. I'm going to make a concerted effort this time. Been using it for a few days and it still has some quirks but feels more modern. Anyone using it have any tips or extensions or anything like that to ease my transition/make it marvelously better than the competition? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faiblesse Des Sens Posted May 2, 2012 Report Share Posted May 2, 2012 Are you on 11 or the 12 beta? http://my.opera.com/chooseopera/blog/2012/04/26/opera-12-beta-available-now Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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