Thursday Next Posted May 8, 2013 Report Share Posted May 8, 2013 Most games can be moved to SD. Google music has a slightly bigger problem for me. The way it handles external storage is retarded. For some reason it creates a virtual drive so when you navigate your files you will see something like Ext_SD and Ext_SD_0 (something to do with the way the file system in Jelly Bean works or some nonsense). This is fine mostly except that when the SD card is unmounted and then remounted a new virtual drive is created that is slightly different. As a result your playlist gets emptied because none of the songs are where they are supposed to be. Very frustrating. Especially when it happened to me before a run and I had only 3 songs playing for an entire hour. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deanb Posted May 8, 2013 Author Report Share Posted May 8, 2013 @TFG: If you're using micro-SD cards for local stuff then it means you're not streaming over Google Music, or storing your files in Google Drive, etc. A mate was showing off his recently purchases Nexus4, and sure it's pretty and swapping ROMs is a piece of piss but I'd want the extra space External can afford you. (though housemate has a OneX with about 28GB of space which is pretty damn big). As for myself phone upgraded to Jellybean the other day. I've noted the new external file structure, managed to mess up QuickPic a bit, not fished through all my apps but likely PerfectViewer will need it's home folder changing too. Jelly Bean has pretty much fixed most of the issues I had with my Note. I'm quite happy so far, only complaint is the notification bar is now a dark shade of grey instead of the old black (the full notification shade is pure black). Nexus4 friend was also sharing a few Nova launcher tips with me too so getting a bit extra use from that (mainly the swipe actions, I tend not to bother with gesture based stuff, but this is simple enough to implement and also means I can combine Phone and Contacts app/button into one. Still figuring other uses. Multi-Window is a nice addition (yeah Touchwiz only, not strictly JB feature), though apart from the initial gimmick I've not made much use of it. Maybe something good to watch a longer Youtube video, say TotalBiscuit, while still browsing the web, facebook. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faiblesse Des Sens Posted May 8, 2013 Report Share Posted May 8, 2013 What's the issue google (and others) have with putting microSD card slots in their devices? Surely the more space people have the more likely they are to buy stuff to fill it. What's the issue? Read above. They don't want people to get confused over these things like Waldorf and internal space is faster anyways. @Thursday. What are you referring to that it's creating? It doesn't store anything your external put it does put your music in weird spots on your internal. Anyways, looks like the whole emulated SD card thing extends beyond Nexus phones? That's odd. @Deanb: That's how I use gestures on my launcher, too. I use it for similar apps without having to actually use a folder. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Waldorf and Statler Posted May 8, 2013 Report Share Posted May 8, 2013 I'm not confused over the functionality, I'm confused as to why they would do such utter retarded shit. So unless that was their plan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faiblesse Des Sens Posted May 9, 2013 Report Share Posted May 9, 2013 Nothing retarded about it. But yes, you did show some confusion when you didn't understand why it didn't save the the microSD. Google wants to eliminate that hassle to begin with. They want the days of installing app2SD, widgets not working because the app is on SD, etc, to be gone. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Waldorf and Statler Posted May 9, 2013 Report Share Posted May 9, 2013 If that's the case, then I'll be game once they start releasing 32gb and 64gb phones for the prices of 16 and 32 today. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faiblesse Des Sens Posted May 9, 2013 Report Share Posted May 9, 2013 We're starting to get there, actually. HTC One comes at 32gb at its minimum and apparently there's a 64gb version (or one upcoming.) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Waldorf and Statler Posted May 9, 2013 Report Share Posted May 9, 2013 Cool I guess. I mean if in 2 years when I upgrade phones this is the standard, I'll be fine with it as long as we're paying ~$200 on contract for 32 or 64 gig phones. But I refuse to go back to HTC. I hear complaints about the Galaxy phones having bad battery but man, you dont know my nigga about bad battery life till you own an HTC. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faiblesse Des Sens Posted May 9, 2013 Report Share Posted May 9, 2013 What makes you think every single phone from a company is going to have bad battery life? What about how its used? That's utter retarded shit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Waldorf and Statler Posted May 9, 2013 Report Share Posted May 9, 2013 (edited) Well personal experience, talking to other HTC owners and the company continuously claiming "we're more about high performance machinery than battery life" or similar statements. They've made 'we've listened and are ready to change' blogs too about improving battery life. From what I read about the HTC One it has the same issue I had with my previous phone where the idle battery life gets sucked up like a motherfucker. I could leave my phone screened off for the majority of the day and it'd be red by the night. Galaxy so far has amazing idle life. With the amount of use I give it the thing could easily last me day and a half without charge. Not to mention benchmark tests on the HTC phones I consider. I don't know what it is with you and taking statements I make too seriously without asking why before going straight into the no-no words. Edited May 9, 2013 by Waldorf And Statler Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thursday Next Posted May 9, 2013 Report Share Posted May 9, 2013 I agree with W&S. HTC battery life is woeful compared to Samsung in my experience. Coupled with the fact that I can swap my battery in my S3 while I can't with the HTC battery life is demonstrably better with Sammy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deanb Posted May 9, 2013 Author Report Share Posted May 9, 2013 See I've a Wildfire for previous phone and it's got pretty great battery life, even more so now it's not really acting as a phone. And then I've my Note, which is cheating both in the massive draining screen, but the equally large battery on the back (even bigger in the Note 2) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thursday Next Posted May 9, 2013 Report Share Posted May 9, 2013 My DHD was pitiful had two batteries for it and still barely survived 12hrs of moderate to high use. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faiblesse Des Sens Posted May 9, 2013 Report Share Posted May 9, 2013 I agree with W&S. HTC battery life is woeful compared to Samsung in my experience. Coupled with the fact that I can swap my battery in my S3 while I can't with the HTC battery life is demonstrably better with Sammy. Yet the HTC One has been said to have better battery life than the S4 and has more options for increasing its battery life. What you don't get is that people's personal stories don't matter, W&S. They never have. Everyone uses their phones differently. Everyone installs different apps. Even different versions of Android allow for different levels of battery life saving. Some processors and screens are more battery efficient, some people use them in a way that's not efficient anyways, and there's different battery sizes. It's not as simple as listening to a bunch of your idiot friends. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Waldorf and Statler Posted May 9, 2013 Report Share Posted May 9, 2013 I just said it wasn't so much of listening to my 'idiot' friends as it is collective information I've gotten over the years via many means. And the HTC One is apparently a a nice change from previous shitty battery life, but for every article you point to me where it has a better battery life I can show you two where it says 'the web surfing/video streaming is better but the over-all day-to-day use is shit because of the way it idles'. I understand over-all these high performance phones are considered to have bad battery life, but most of the HTC phones I've seen have a bad battery life, so much they themselves acknowledge the issues with many. I am personally heavily biased because I owned the Desire/Inspire 4G sure, but the point I was making is that the Galaxy S4's battery life lasts a day and a half to two days with medium use. I don't see HOW that's bad battery life. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faiblesse Des Sens Posted May 9, 2013 Report Share Posted May 9, 2013 I've never once heard complaints about HTCs not scaling down enough or having wake-lock issues. Things like that are going to be dependent on what is installed and enabled which would also include carrier bloatware if you're not a phone that can disable. The HTC Ones power save mode really takes what you want (longevity when idling) to the extreme from what I've heard. Personally I actually like to use my phone so I don't bother with things like that. Which is also why you see people throw around the "Screen on time" as the primary thing you want to look for in battery life. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Waldorf and Statler Posted May 9, 2013 Report Share Posted May 9, 2013 I'm not your average user then. I need my phone to stay alive for all the sporadic searches I do throughout the day and night. Also reading Cracked articles. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faiblesse Des Sens Posted May 9, 2013 Report Share Posted May 9, 2013 If that's all you use your phone for then I'd be surprised that anything was killing it. Probably a case of what you have installed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Waldorf and Statler Posted May 9, 2013 Report Share Posted May 9, 2013 I had the most minimal amount of apps installed in my HTC. Unless that app-killer app is a battery-hog, I had basically standard apps and continuously turned off wi-fi and phone 3g/4g when not in use. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faiblesse Des Sens Posted May 10, 2013 Report Share Posted May 10, 2013 Unless that app-killer app is a battery-hog Actually, yes. These do more harm than good. They'll kill apps which automatically restart and do this endlessly. It's simply unnecessary on Android. If you have an app that has wake-lock issues or drains battery because it's also pulling GPS (facebook comes to mind) then uninstall it. Also, powering up your 3g/4g radios constantly is also terrible for your battery life. That's only necessary if you're moving around a lot. Keeping your radios on when moving with the screen off shouldn't be too much of a drain though. The only battery saving app I would recommend is Greenify (requires root) as it doesn't really kill apps. It just handles those few apps you might want installed but don't want doing something like getting GPS data all of the time. Greenify just hibernates apps like how well written apps should behave or you can make any app behave like that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Waldorf and Statler Posted May 10, 2013 Report Share Posted May 10, 2013 All right. I'll take the advice and uninstall the app-killer one from this. And yeah point taken, I haven't done much on turning off/on the wifi and 4G in my Galaxy S4 since the battery handles it well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thursday Next Posted May 10, 2013 Report Share Posted May 10, 2013 I agree with W&S. HTC battery life is woeful compared to Samsung in my experience. Coupled with the fact that I can swap my battery in my S3 while I can't with the HTC battery life is demonstrably better with Sammy. Yet the HTC One has been said to have better battery life than the S4 and has more options for increasing its battery life. What you don't get is that people's personal stories don't matter, W&S. They never have. Everyone uses their phones differently. Everyone installs different apps. Even different versions of Android allow for different levels of battery life saving. Some processors and screens are more battery efficient, some people use them in a way that's not efficient anyways, and there's different battery sizes. It's not as simple as listening to a bunch of your idiot friends. I'll take personal stories over manufacturer stats any day of the week. While there's nothing to say that HTC can't make a phone with good battery life, the examples myself and my friends, who all use our phones in similar ways, have experienced have all suffered from a short battery. I don't know anyone with an HTC One or an S4 so can't say which is better, but from my previous experience I would expect the S4 to have more longevity. Even if that's not the case, the S4 has a removable battery, and I always carry a spare so the HTC One would have to have twice the life of an S4 to really compete for the way I use my phone. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faiblesse Des Sens Posted May 10, 2013 Report Share Posted May 10, 2013 Who said anything about manufacturer stats? There are websites that do these tests you know and they do it before some idiot installs a bunch of battery raping apps. Anyways, do you really use your phone that much that you need a spare? Even on phones where I could remove the battery I never bothered to. It's a hassle to have to keep two things charged instead of one. I just carry a charger with me instead. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mister Jack Posted May 10, 2013 Report Share Posted May 10, 2013 I'm embarrassed to admit that I only just now figured out how to make a double tap of the home button bring up Google instead of S voice on my galaxy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deanb Posted May 10, 2013 Author Report Share Posted May 10, 2013 I think stuff like that depends on the launcher. Though I'm pretty sure even with TouchWiz and Nova Search (now Now) has always been a long press of the menu button. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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