excel_excel Posted February 10, 2011 Report Share Posted February 10, 2011 http://www.rollingstone.com/culture/blogs/gear-up/guitar-hero-dead-20110209 wow. thoughts? opinions? In my opinion it was too many games too soon and the perpherials going along with that. Poor Kotick...probably crying into his million dollar bills. Isn't Tony Hawk's dead now too? Shred sold 3000 copies its first week in the US. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toshi Posted February 10, 2011 Report Share Posted February 10, 2011 Not surprised after they tried to do Band Hero and all their other crap that wasn't selling If I could end CoD now too I would be sooooooooooooooooooo happy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yantelope Posted February 10, 2011 Report Share Posted February 10, 2011 So, lets see here. Guitar Hero is dead, DJ hero is dead. Probably Tony Hawk will be the next on the chopping block given the failure of his last two games. That leaves them with Call of Duty. The series isn't losing steam just yet but the future death of Infinity Ward could quickly lead to the demise of Call of Duty. So what happens at that point? Surely Activision can't live off of Blizzard releasing a single new game every 5 years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Yantelope Posted February 10, 2011 Report Share Posted February 10, 2011 Who would have thought that rereleasing the same game forever was an unsustainable business model? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MasterDex Posted February 10, 2011 Report Share Posted February 10, 2011 Who would have thought that rereleasing the same game forever was an unsustainable business model? What's even worse is that if Kotick was half the businessman he thinks he is, he'd have seen what happened when Probst was doing pretty much the same thing Kotick is now doing during his time as CEO of EA and would have recognised how bad of an idea it is to throw all your eggs in one basket. Activision needs to get some quality new IPs to market if they don't want to see what happened to EA happen to them. Guitar Hero is dead? Good Riddance. Rock Band and Harmonix are better anyway. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toxicitizen Posted February 10, 2011 Report Share Posted February 10, 2011 (edited) While competition is always good for everyone, I can't help but be glad to see Rock Band and Harmonix win this one. Their product is a whole lot superior and their heart is obviously into it. Though it came as a surprise that Activision isn't doing all they can to make Guitar Hero into a money maker again. But I guess that would require some creativity, and they seem to be firmly opposed to that. I wonder if anyone in the company will realize that the genre isn't dead, and that they simply drove the series into the ground themselves. And considering how they keep opening up new studios to work on COD, I can see that series going down the in the coming years as well. Of course... COD just might be the exception. The one that keeps selling Edited February 10, 2011 by FLD Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheMightyEthan Posted February 10, 2011 Report Share Posted February 10, 2011 An unnamed source has revealed to me Activision's plan: 24 CoD studios, monthly releases. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McBeeferton Posted February 10, 2011 Report Share Posted February 10, 2011 I don't think it's dead forever. But it's still a major victory. [saren Face] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deanb Posted February 10, 2011 Report Share Posted February 10, 2011 From what I've read it's not dead, it's having a break. So seems they still intend to bring it back in the future. The fact sales nose dived harder that Gawker page hits the last two years probably should of warned them. Activision really do need to get a new business model other than "If Game X sales = 2million/year then produce Y copies of game/year". Just let their games breathe and instead don't make dozens of new studios for COD but make dozens of studios for dozens of other IPs. When making a game never expect it to go beyond a trilogy. It's a nice rule. Some games can break that, but don't fucking break that trilogy limit in the space of a year godammit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hot Heart Posted February 10, 2011 Report Share Posted February 10, 2011 As a musician, I quite liked the GH Tunes/GH Mix thing they introduced in World Tour. Sure, it was pretty much a MIDI composer in many ways, but it had a lot of potential and was quite fun to use once you got the hang of it. I think the guys behind it actually did a really good job considering what they were working with. My own creations: If they focused on that side of things for a small title, there might be something there; because that's certainly not an area that Harmonix are covering. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
excel_excel Posted February 10, 2011 Author Report Share Posted February 10, 2011 So, lets see here. Guitar Hero is dead, DJ hero is dead. Probably Tony Hawk will be the next on the chopping block given the failure of his last two games. That leaves them with Call of Duty. The series isn't losing steam just yet but the future death of Infinity Ward could quickly lead to the demise of Call of Duty. So what happens at that point? Surely Activision can't live off of Blizzard releasing a single new game every 5 years. Don't forget Prototype!! Sure it was shit but.....um.....hmm. Sequel might be good! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sage Posted February 11, 2011 Report Share Posted February 11, 2011 guitar hero was dead the moment activision bought out redoctane and yanked the series from it's true creators harmonix. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SixTwoSixFour Posted February 11, 2011 Report Share Posted February 11, 2011 Don't forget Prototype!! Sure it was shit but.....um.....hmm. Sequel might be good! Prototype wasn't shit. It was a mess. And it was the most fun mess I've ever played. Sequel has a lot of potential. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CorgiShinobi Posted February 11, 2011 Report Share Posted February 11, 2011 Meh, I'm starting to think the Music genre of gaming is getting tired. Yeah Guitar Hero got stale rather quickly, and while DJ Hero was actually not too bad, it was still an expensive pack with a peripheral suited to that one series. While Rock Band is high quality stuff, I wouldn't say it's something that will last forever. Heck, I know tons of people who still own Rock Band 2 and don't plan to upgrade to 3. Likewise, some went with The Beatles and are content with that game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FredEffinChopin Posted February 11, 2011 Report Share Posted February 11, 2011 While competition is always good for everyone, I can't help but be glad to see Rock Band and Harmonix win this one. Their product is a whole lot superior and their heart is obviously into it. I feel the same way about it, only I'm not certain this really spells victory for Harmonix as much as it indicates hard times. Activision already did its damage to the genre, and RB3 sales and Harmonix's sale to Viacom would seem to support that. I'm hoping that RB3 sells a bit better over time because of this development, and in turn the DLC so that Harmonix can stay afloat and continue to innovate for their fans. They certainly do seem to have their hearts in it, I'd like to see them succeed, for their sake as well as mine Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnny Posted February 11, 2011 Report Share Posted February 11, 2011 About time. No mercy for franchises that aren't trying to push the envelope in any way. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toxicitizen Posted February 11, 2011 Report Share Posted February 11, 2011 I feel the same way about it, only I'm not certain this really spells victory for Harmonix as much as it indicates hard times. Activision already did its damage to the genre, and RB3 sales and Harmonix's sale to Viacom would seem to support that. I'm hoping that RB3 sells a bit better over time because of this development, and in turn the DLC so that Harmonix can stay afloat and continue to innovate for their fans. They certainly do seem to have their hearts in it, I'd like to see them succeed, for their sake as well as mine Oh, hard times, no doubt about it. But with little to no direct competition, I think Harmonix is in the best position possible to get back on their feet. It won't happen overnight and it won't be easy, but if anyone can make it, it's them. Their product is now the only viable option for music game fans (at least for the foreseeable future). It's the only one that will be getting continued support and I think that if they keep making the games, by the time the next iteration of the series comes out, more people will have had time to invest in either the keyboard or the pro instruments, so they'll be more willing to invest in more software. Plus, some people just aren't very informed when it come to the gaming industry. They stayed with Guitar Hero all these years out of brand loyalty or because they didn't know any better. At some point, they'll inevitably have to check out Rock Band if they're still interested in the genre. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FredEffinChopin Posted February 13, 2011 Report Share Posted February 13, 2011 I feel the same way about it, only I'm not certain this really spells victory for Harmonix as much as it indicates hard times. Activision already did its damage to the genre, and RB3 sales and Harmonix's sale to Viacom would seem to support that. I'm hoping that RB3 sells a bit better over time because of this development, and in turn the DLC so that Harmonix can stay afloat and continue to innovate for their fans. They certainly do seem to have their hearts in it, I'd like to see them succeed, for their sake as well as mine Oh, hard times, no doubt about it. But with little to no direct competition, I think Harmonix is in the best position possible to get back on their feet. It won't happen overnight and it won't be easy, but if anyone can make it, it's them. Their product is now the only viable option for music game fans (at least for the foreseeable future). It's the only one that will be getting continued support and I think that if they keep making the games, by the time the next iteration of the series comes out, more people will have had time to invest in either the keyboard or the pro instruments, so they'll be more willing to invest in more software. Plus, some people just aren't very informed when it come to the gaming industry. They stayed with Guitar Hero all these years out of brand loyalty or because they didn't know any better. At some point, they'll inevitably have to check out Rock Band if they're still interested in the genre. Agreed, on all of that. I just hope they can hold out long enough for a gradual shift to work in their favor. Since they got dropped by MTV I've noticed weekly DLC hasn't been as hefty as usual. It could just be coincidence, but probably not, and I hope that they don't get cut off soon. I wish rockbandscores.com was still functional, and worked for RB3, I used to use it as a sort of popularity meter for DLC. It's probably not so bad though, as you said, they're the only game in town. I just hope that the people who are still into the music-game genre (both sides of it) are enough to keep things afloat. I also hope awareness of pro-mode increases, I think there are likely a lot of people who would love it that are completely unaware of its existence. Those instruments are expensive though... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hot Heart Posted February 13, 2011 Report Share Posted February 13, 2011 Those instruments are expensive though... Or in the guitar's case: non-existent in UK (European) stores. Might order mine from Amazon though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toxicitizen Posted February 14, 2011 Report Share Posted February 14, 2011 Eh, none of the instruments were possible to find at launch in Canada either. I had to import them all from Gamestop.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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