CorgiShinobi Posted February 18, 2011 Report Share Posted February 18, 2011 I know this is off-topic, but it's a pet peeve. Could've (not really appropriate) or could have; would've or would have. People mistake the contraction of "have" for "of." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McBeeferton Posted February 18, 2011 Report Share Posted February 18, 2011 I've been doing that as of lately, Atom. Sorry! I don't know why I'm doing it all the sudden! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deanb Posted February 18, 2011 Report Share Posted February 18, 2011 I know this is off-topic, but it's a pet peeve. Could've (not really appropriate) or could have; would've or would have. People mistake the contraction of "have" for "of." Anyone else want to fill him in? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Showmeyomoves! Posted February 18, 2011 Report Share Posted February 18, 2011 Hahahaha! Oh god, Atomsk... If that's a pet peeve of yours, prepare to be peeved on a regular basis. Manly, I have a feeling he wasn't talking about you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MetalCaveman Posted February 18, 2011 Report Share Posted February 18, 2011 I know this is off-topic, but it's a pet peeve. Could've (not really appropriate) or could have; would've or would have. People mistake the contraction of "have" for "of." Anyone else want to fill him in? I would, but it's way more fun to watch him continue like that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CorgiShinobi Posted February 18, 2011 Report Share Posted February 18, 2011 (edited) Hey, man, like this ain't funny, man! You know the psychological strain you're, like, putting on my membrane, man! Stop it, man! EDIT: Had to step out, but I'll assume this: It's some cultural thing as Smooves and Dean are in a jolly. Caveman, I dunno, he's just being a dick. (I had one post, continue what? ) Edited February 18, 2011 by Atomsk88 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkyGriever Posted February 19, 2011 Report Share Posted February 19, 2011 Yeah I think the guy that ran Bunedoggle shut up shop. It was costing him quite a bit as more n more gawker commenters signed up instead of gawker just supplying one. Then poof in swept gawker n installed comment notifications. But yeah, it was pretty buggy. Either from it crashing on his end while he was away or just from Gawker revamping stuff on their end. Still for what little commenters remain seems folks are getting the word out on this place cos we're getting quite a few folks joining up. Shame we may of missed most of them in the early exodus. edit: btw http://www.observer....acebook-matters That's from the day or so of the io9 n Jalopnik redesign laucnh. Now look on Kotaku articles now. There's a shiny T and a shiny U there. I guess FB wasn't great enough on it's own .(I guess Facebook not accepting the new gawker links might be part of it ) 503 error on the link. Lol they took it down? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MetalCaveman Posted February 19, 2011 Report Share Posted February 19, 2011 Hey, man, like this ain't funny, man! You know the psychological strain you're, like, putting on my membrane, man! Stop it, man! EDIT: Had to step out, but I'll assume this: It's some cultural thing as Smooves and Dean are in a jolly. Caveman, I dunno, he's just being a dick. (I had one post, continue what? ) Basically, and I wanted you to continue mentioning that again and again, guess it won't happen now. Also, link works here, and I found this quote interesting : "Perhaps Facebook is No. 1, but aren't the other social services worth the small amount of real estate required for a widget? "These sites festooned with social media buttons—they look like primitive tribesmen clutching pathetically onto shiny baubles they believe to the symbols of modernity," quoth Denton. " Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
excaliburps Posted February 19, 2011 Author Report Share Posted February 19, 2011 Interestingly enough, I've been visiting the site more often these days. A sense of normalcy if you will. Although it is a bit weird that I messaged Crecente twice on twitter and never got a response. He normally does. Conspiracy theorist in me says he lurks here from time to time and read one of my posts as well. Just find it weird. Ca version of the site makes it a whole lot better. Come to think of it, I doubt any of the eds want the redesign. I mean they can't be vocal about being against it because of the higher-ups, but they're not exactly jumping for joy about it either. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
staySICK Posted March 1, 2011 Report Share Posted March 1, 2011 http://gawker.com/#!5772644/gawker-201 The most important remedy is the introduction of an internal scrollbar to move up and down the headline index on the right. We had mistakenly thought mouse scrolling (via scrollwheels or trackpads) and keyboard shortcuts were enough for story navigation—an overly optimistic expectation to say the least. News web sites may indeed become more application-like and readers may grow accustomed to swiping instead of scrolling. But they're not there yet, as the extensive criticism of the sidebar made clear. We got ahead of ourselves—and now we're rowing back. translation: "Our readers are idiots, so here's a damn scroll bar." when really I ran into multiple problems (especially from a laptop), when I was intending to scroll a story, and would scroll the articles area. Or since the scroll slider on the touchpad of my wife's laptop is wonky, I'd be using the down and up arrows, only to have the entire fucking article change. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faiblesse Des Sens Posted March 1, 2011 Report Share Posted March 1, 2011 IMO make it so left and right scroll through the box on the right... but you have to press enter to read the article. I like the new notification system (though it still has issues if you're trying to view more than 20 or so.) The one thing I noticed is that you have to (or at least I had to) refresh the page to clear my notification count across all of the sites. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
staySICK Posted March 1, 2011 Report Share Posted March 1, 2011 notifications bug on me and I keep having a notification by my name from like three days ago Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
excaliburps Posted March 1, 2011 Author Report Share Posted March 1, 2011 Denton's recent statement reads like he's unwavering, but has the communities best interest. In reality, I doubt he gives a crap. I mean have you read the comments in Kotaku, Giz, etc? A TON of people left. I'm guessing Denton misses the community he deems that are holding the sites back. What's the matter, rich boy? 60% drop in hits a little too much? In all honesty, I think Denton thought too much of the Gawker network. I don't think they'd anticipated that the exodus would be this significant. Tried the new system. Replies are still a bit broken. Still can't follow anyone, and unless I'm mistaken, you can't still can't send PMs either. All those clicks going away...And for what? Bigger ads that rape my monitor? Oh, Denton you so funny. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faiblesse Des Sens Posted March 1, 2011 Report Share Posted March 1, 2011 How are replies broken? Following is coming back (it's mentioned in what you just talked about.) How many people even used PMs besides a very small amount of people anyways? I mean, you have commenters, sure, but how many PMd? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
excaliburps Posted March 1, 2011 Author Report Share Posted March 1, 2011 How are replies broken? Following is coming back (it's mentioned in what you just talked about.) How many people even used PMs besides a very small amount of people anyways? I mean, you have commenters, sure, but how many PMd? Replies sometimes doesn't work. I click it and I go to a blank or old comment. I still have a red 1 on my name even thought there are no new replies to me. Following someone using the new design isn't implemented yet. Unless I'm mistaken. Don't know about you but I used the PMs a lot. Be it for exchanging info you don't want out there or talking to some of the editors. The fact is the feature isn't there and it was before. Not really complaining as I find that I go to Kotaku less and less. Same with commenting there. I actually comment here more now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faiblesse Des Sens Posted March 1, 2011 Report Share Posted March 1, 2011 Haha, those are the same problems I had even before the change. I think that's always been a problem, though like I mentioned before, refreshing after clearing seems to do the job. With PMs I was referring to the userbase as a whole. It doesn't seem like that many people are complaining about that feature being missing. You can still email the editors if you please. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
excaliburps Posted March 1, 2011 Author Report Share Posted March 1, 2011 Haha, those are the same problems I had even before the change. I think that's always been a problem, though like I mentioned before, refreshing after clearing seems to do the job. With PMs I was referring to the userbase as a whole. It doesn't seem like that many people are complaining about that feature being missing. You can still email the editors if you please. Ah. It wasn't as prevalent as it is now. Yeah. I emailed Crecente the moment the redesign took place. He told me replies are being worked on. PMs he didn't answer. My guess is they might be dropping it altogether. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deanb Posted March 1, 2011 Report Share Posted March 1, 2011 Oh man, "Oh no, it's not us, it's you. Our site is practically perfect in every way. Not our fault if you're incapable of using it" What a fucking douche. I see they now have instructions up top on reading the traditional blog format. I wonder if it becomes the majority of users that they'll switch over to that. Also blog view you can tell is an after thought because it's full of redundancy. And yeah replies are broken, It just tells you who sent you the reply, not where or when. So no idea if it's new or old, or if one person has sent you 2 replies to comments in two articles. It should just scroll out into the headline feed. Then it has more room than that pop out box. Looks like they've stabilised. But damn have they taken a massive hit: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
madbassman39 Posted March 1, 2011 Report Share Posted March 1, 2011 I don't like the new layout, but I could live with it. It's terrible but not enough to keep me from reading, but what is going to keep me from reading is Denton's attitude. He made it sound like it was our fault we couldn't understand the new layout, and this is after he said his most loyal viewers, us commenters, are keeping his sight in the ghetto. No thank you Denton, you deserved the hack 4 months ago, and you deserve the 60% drop in site visits. I hope someone else buys out Gawker Media and actually does something good with it now, but I don't think they will. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Enervation Posted March 1, 2011 Report Share Posted March 1, 2011 I think it's safe to say the Gawker network will never have as many readers as it used to. With their reputation hanging as it is, I don't think anyone will really want to bother with the Gawker sites anymore (and especially not with the hack and leak of user information). For me, that's pretty much when I stopped using it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
excaliburps Posted March 1, 2011 Author Report Share Posted March 1, 2011 Oh man, "Oh no, it's not us, it's you. Our site is practically perfect in every way. Not our fault if you're incapable of using it" What a fucking douche. I see they now have instructions up top on reading the traditional blog format. I wonder if it becomes the majority of users that they'll switch over to that. Also blog view you can tell is an after thought because it's full of redundancy. And yeah replies are broken, It just tells you who sent you the reply, not where or when. So no idea if it's new or old, or if one person has sent you 2 replies to comments in two articles. It should just scroll out into the headline feed. Then it has more room than that pop out box. Looks like they've stabilised. But damn have they taken a massive hit: Haha! Er to be honest, I don't understand the graphs that much. Just see the big dip and know that's the hits counter. Massive drop, no? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
excaliburps Posted March 1, 2011 Author Report Share Posted March 1, 2011 I don't like the new layout, but I could live with it. It's terrible but not enough to keep me from reading, but what is going to keep me from reading is Denton's attitude. He made it sound like it was our fault we couldn't understand the new layout, and this is after he said his most loyal viewers, us commenters, are keeping his sight in the ghetto. No thank you Denton, you deserved the hack 4 months ago, and you deserve the 60% drop in site visits. I hope someone else buys out Gawker Media and actually does something good with it now, but I don't think they will. Yep. Seems like Denton forgets that we ghetto guys are the ones putting money in his pockets. I also could live with the layout. But do I want to? Kotaku, most of all wouldn't even be anywhere near where they are now without the commenters clicking each story just to see who replied to them. I think it's safe to say the Gawker network will never have as many readers as it used to. With their reputation hanging as it is, I don't think anyone will really want to bother with the Gawker sites anymore (and especially not with the hack and leak of user information). For me, that's pretty much when I stopped using it. Agreed. With Denton's arrogance, couple with the hacking, I highly doubt Kotaku will see its numbers rise to what it was again. Although to be honest, Kotaku deserves to be taken down a peg or two. I used to blindly love the site. To the point that I rarely, if ever, criticize it. But after reading what non-Kotaku peeps and some of the comments from the people here, y'know what? I've been living with rose-colored Kotaku glasses on. Some of 'em certainly seem to think that they're better "writers" or whatnot compared to the other sites out there. Which I know for a fact is false. Their gaming news is now almost always late. Articles mostly consist of boobs, violence or anything that will get a lot of hits. Or something trying to be art...Basically, crap that's there to instigate people to comment. Is it just me or are there a lot of things wrong with the site? Both technically and editorially? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deanb Posted March 1, 2011 Report Share Posted March 1, 2011 Well for the past 6 months you can see it's wobbled around the 0.0035-0.0040 mark (don't ask what that is, I think it's million) and then the start of feb, when the new layout cam in, it dropped down to the 0.0010 mark. Making a 60% or so drop in hits. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RockyRan Posted March 2, 2011 Report Share Posted March 2, 2011 (edited) Totally agree with you on that last post, Excaliburps. I too used to be practically a religious follower of Kotaku. I'd even defend them a few times, but the past year they've dropped so hard it's not even funny. First came the increasing amount of completely pointless "articles", then came the ridiculous banhammer swings and the general phobia for constructive criticism, then came the Gawker hack (and honestly I should've left the site right there because my account was one that was compromised) with very little apology or even letting people know what happened (a THIRD PARTY had to go around e-mailing the people. Fucking pathetic), then the redesign and the proverbial foot up all the commeneters' asses, not just from the fact that the redesign went up despite all the people who used it saying it was atrocious, but also from their prick of a CEO who loudly bellowed that he won't listen anymore to commenters. As if he ever fucking did. I had it with the site by the time the redesign came up. The community that was there a couple of years ago was all but gone anyway and their coverage is very easily replaceable, so I had no use for the site anymore. The decline of the site in general is almost palpable, and like you said, they completely deserve to be knocked down a couple of notches if they haven't already. http://gawker.com/#!5772644/gawker-201 The most important remedy is the introduction of an internal scrollbar to move up and down the headline index on the right. We had mistakenly thought mouse scrolling (via scrollwheels or trackpads) and keyboard shortcuts were enough for story navigation—an overly optimistic expectation to say the least. News web sites may indeed become more application-like and readers may grow accustomed to swiping instead of scrolling. But they're not there yet, as the extensive criticism of the sidebar made clear. We got ahead of ourselves—and now we're rowing back. translation: "Our readers are idiots, so here's a damn scroll bar." when really I ran into multiple problems (especially from a laptop), when I was intending to scroll a story, and would scroll the articles area. Or since the scroll slider on the touchpad of my wife's laptop is wonky, I'd be using the down and up arrows, only to have the entire fucking article change. Oh, this is fucking golden. I love how they're transparently claiming to be "ahead of the curve". Yeah, yeah, keep flattering yourself. You're coming so far ahead you're falling behind, right? Everyone's leaving because you're too awesome? Jesus, these people wouldn't know "humility" if was raping their bums. Edited March 2, 2011 by RockyRan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
excaliburps Posted March 2, 2011 Author Report Share Posted March 2, 2011 Well for the past 6 months you can see it's wobbled around the 0.0035-0.0040 mark (don't ask what that is, I think it's million) and then the start of feb, when the new layout cam in, it dropped down to the 0.0010 mark. Making a 60% or so drop in hits. Damn! Is there a way to determine how much money they're continually losing? I might get some flack for this, but they deserve it in a way. Crecente definitely. The fact that not many industry peeps do exclusives for Kotaku or talks highly of Crecente speaks volumes about the way the industry peeps think of him. At least in my opinion. It's like Kotaku got too big too soon and he didn't know how to handle being the top dog right away. Now? I highly, highly doubt they're going to be back to where they were. Most of the people that left went to Joystiq or Dtoid and found out there's more to gaming sites than Kotaku. Maybe when they get taken down a peg or two reviews will be better written. They'll be able to put Luke in a leash or just banish him. Concentrate on gaming again. And don't hire people just because they live in that part of the fucking world. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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