RockyRan Posted February 12, 2011 Report Share Posted February 12, 2011 Sometimes I like to keep game ideas I have to myself for tinfoil-hat purposes, but this one I like enough to share and I know I won't be able to actually make anything like this myself, so here goes: I'd really like to see an open-world sandbox game where the game's AI is deliberately shitty. Not necessarily for enemies mind you, but at least for civilian AI. The reason for this is obvious: we've all loved moments in Just Cause 2 where the AI for civilian airplane pilots fail to go around buildings and crash into them for no reason, or in Oblivion when you're being chased by some crazy powerful prick and you go down a steep hill only to have the guy fall off and die. What if developers actually went out of their way to encourage this behavior? Maybe base the premise of the game around it, like you're in an island full of loons or maybe set the world in a non-realistic place where people have dirt for brains and are made out of salt cubes. Just going around and seeing the AI do incredibly stupid and hilarious things would make for a very entertaining experience I think. Thoughts? Suggestions? Death threats? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hot Heart Posted February 12, 2011 Report Share Posted February 12, 2011 (edited) Slightly different to yours but I reckon a sort of apocalyspe type game would be really cool. With weird AI and general silliness like yours. I was inspired by this Imagine an online game where, instead of trying to kill each other, you're trying to survive as long as you can while chaos erupts all around. You could throw all sorts of crazy stuff in, just for the hell of it. I reckon that would be great fun. Edited February 12, 2011 by Hot Heart Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheMightyEthan Posted February 12, 2011 Report Share Posted February 12, 2011 Imagine an online game where, instead of trying to kill each other, you're trying to survive as long as you can while chaos erupts all around. You could throw all sorts of crazy stuff in, just for the hell of it. I reckon that would be great fun. Best idea ever, and a very good way to incorporate RockyRyan's idea in a way that makes sense in the game world. The apocalypse could be caused by some kind of virus or something that just makes people completely lose their minds. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SomTervo Posted February 12, 2011 Report Share Posted February 12, 2011 None of us would ever have a chance to make these ideas come true- but a GTAIV mod made by us is feasable? All these ideas remind me of the seminal cheats in GTAIII that made civilians go crazy. It made just walking through the world trying to survive amazing. Good stuff! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hot Heart Posted February 12, 2011 Report Share Posted February 12, 2011 None of us would ever have a chance to make these ideas come true- but a GTAIV mod made by us is feasable? A mod might be feasible (not for me. I know nothing) but if you wanted something really cool you'd need something 'purpose-built'. Still, it's an idea... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
staySICK Posted February 12, 2011 Report Share Posted February 12, 2011 Imagine an online game where, instead of trying to kill each other, you're trying to survive as long as you can while chaos erupts all around. You could throw all sorts of crazy stuff in, just for the hell of it. I reckon that would be great fun. Best idea ever, and a very good way to incorporate RockyRyan's idea in a way that makes sense in the game world. The apocalypse could be caused by some kind of virus or something that just makes people completely lose their minds. This reminds me of a way my friends and I would play GTA III at times. We'd ramp up the difficulty and use the cheat code to arm the citizens and make them hostile, turn on insta-full stars, and see how long we could survive. SO MUCH FUN. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deanb Posted February 12, 2011 Report Share Posted February 12, 2011 Could maybe use the UDK? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheMightyEthan Posted February 13, 2011 Report Share Posted February 13, 2011 UDK? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deanb Posted February 13, 2011 Report Share Posted February 13, 2011 http://www.udk.com/ The Unreal Development Kit. A completely free game making kit using UE3. As opposed to Source, CryEngine etc that require buying the game. It's only a year old and gaining a fair bit of popularity. Especially since it now supports iOS. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheForgetfulBrain Posted February 13, 2011 Report Share Posted February 13, 2011 (edited) If we've got some artists/coders, we've also got more than enough people to write batshit insane dialog for the NPCs with the crappy AI. That could be a really amusing game/mod. Edited February 13, 2011 by TheForgetfulBrain Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deanb Posted February 13, 2011 Report Share Posted February 13, 2011 Also I'm getting flashbacks at this point on the whole "lets make a game" thing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mal Posted February 13, 2011 Report Share Posted February 13, 2011 I absolutely have no experience in anything related to game design but... I think I will give UDK a whirl. Who knows, I may pick up a thing or two. And that GTAIV mod is still amazing even though I watched it some many times already. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheForgetfulBrain Posted February 13, 2011 Report Share Posted February 13, 2011 Yeah dean, that's basically what this thread quickly morphed into. I used to mess around with the Descent 2 and Half Life level building kits when I was like 12, but that was... dear god... more than ten years ago... terrifying! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheMightyEthan Posted February 13, 2011 Report Share Posted February 13, 2011 Also I'm getting flashbacks at this point on the whole "lets make a game" thing. But as everyone knows that worked out flawlessly, so what's the problem? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MetalCaveman Posted February 13, 2011 Report Share Posted February 13, 2011 So far there's been a lot of cool ideas! http://www.udk.com/ The Unreal Development Kit. A completely free game making kit using UE3. As opposed to Source, CryEngine etc that require buying the game. It's only a year old and gaining a fair bit of popularity. Especially since it now supports iOS. I'm thinking about downloading it and using it for some stuff I want to do. Though if this works and people want to sell it they ask for a $99 fee and 25% Royalties after the first 5k earned. I learned ho to code and program some basic stuff in school, so I want to see if I still have the ability to learn and use stuff like that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheForgetfulBrain Posted February 13, 2011 Report Share Posted February 13, 2011 I unfortunately only know some basic web coding, but I suppose it wouldn't hurt to try learning some 'real' coding. HAY DEAN. We should just mod this thread and make it a "let's make a game" thread. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hot Heart Posted February 13, 2011 Report Share Posted February 13, 2011 I can do game 'design', I can't do game 'development'. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr W Phallus Posted February 13, 2011 Report Share Posted February 13, 2011 I can do game 'design', I can't do game 'development'. Seconded. I'm an ideas man. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheForgetfulBrain Posted February 13, 2011 Report Share Posted February 13, 2011 Pretty much most of us are, probably. =]P Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hot Heart Posted February 13, 2011 Report Share Posted February 13, 2011 Pretty much most of us are, probably. =]P Nooooo! It's a special talent that only I have. I can think up ideas that never come to fruition! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slatz_grobnik Posted February 13, 2011 Report Share Posted February 13, 2011 So, Zombie Apocalypse with Type:O (stupid) zombies? Outside of pointing out the bandwagon, it's relevant that the original cites were of Oblivion and Just Cause. This is an idea that needs lotsa sandbox. You need NPCs with big, complex routines that frequently go awry, often with one another. Part of the fun is watching and asking "what the hell just happened?" Now, that may need a degree of the "right things" for all the NPCs to do (the NPCs otherwise acting smart) with a really hilarious stupid that can spread. And, again with the examples, stupid isn't just stupid or so it seems, but disregarding health to hilarious effect. That's more sophisticated than just "the car now only turns left." I'm not familiar with UDK, but that need for a better sandbox for it all to be set in may limit its viability for this project. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hot Heart Posted February 13, 2011 Report Share Posted February 13, 2011 (edited) I was actually thinking more along the lines of cars crashing, things falling down and stuff exploding rather than 'zombies'. But, yeah, it would still be quite complex and need some sort of viable 'sandbox' though. Edited February 13, 2011 by Hot Heart Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MetalCaveman Posted February 13, 2011 Report Share Posted February 13, 2011 Best idea ever, and a very good way to incorporate RockyRyan's idea in a way that makes sense in the game world. The apocalypse could be caused by some kind of virus or something that just makes people completely lose their minds. The appearance of The Great Old Ones? "The Great Old Ones are ancient extraterrestrial beings of immense power, and most are also colossal in size. These entities seem to have a physical shape, but being cosmic lifeforms from beyond our space-time continuum means they are not based on matter in our definition of the concept, yet their forms are built on principles similar enough to those of true matter that they appear to be material in their nature. They are worshipped by deranged human cults, as well as by most of the non-human races of the mythos." http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_Old_One Maybe someone found the Necronomicon and unleashed something that made people crazy and stuff? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SomTervo Posted February 14, 2011 Report Share Posted February 14, 2011 (edited) I'm not familiar with UDK, but that need for a better sandbox for it all to be set in may limit its viability for this project. Yeah, that's why I suggested GTAIV. It's just such a great open-world simulation, and apparently is pretty moddable, so it seemed feasible in this instance. The only problem is that we'd all have to get hold of GTAIV, and a good enough computer... I was actually thinking more along the lines of cars crashing, things falling down and stuff exploding rather than 'zombies'. I agree, and I don't think there's much need for background or anything, I'd be happy with a mini-game GTAIV mod that just said 'You're starting here. You have to get here (somewhere across the city). Get there, and survive!' With randomized instances of; the insane cars in that Carmaggedon video, violent and psychotic civilians (without overpowered weaponry), randomly exploding stuff, groups of NPCs fighting each other dynamically (always brilliant) etc. etc. But hey, backstory would be nice if we could manage it in whatever endeavour we choose. The Great Ones seems a bit too specific though? They've got a very background, passive influence (until they start properly tearing shit apart after indoctrinating everyone). People cult-up, they don't go openly insane. Sorry if we seem to be grabbing your idea and running with it, Rocky! Edited February 14, 2011 by kenshi_ryden Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MetalCaveman Posted February 16, 2011 Report Share Posted February 16, 2011 Maybe we could have them manipulate people into forming cults, after that people of those cults would kill either each other or some other dudes, which would cause the influence/presence the Old Ones have to be much greater, making people crazy, except for a few ones who haven't gone completely mad yet, these dudes would tr to survive for as long as possible, if people here want, they could survive (I'll think of some way to make that happen Or someone else could think of it), or they would die anyway, which would be a gameplay thing I guess, just trying to stay alive for the longest time, maybe getting a different ending if you reach a certain part or something. Aside from that, the Old Ones would begin to crawl into our world from other dimensions, which would be the cause for all the chaos and destruction. So yeah, that probably doesn't sound that good, but I just came up with it. Alternatively, if people want a story, there are many good writers here that could come up with something. But maybe I'm going too far wanting things like multiple endings and stuff. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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