Luftwaffles Posted September 9, 2011 Report Share Posted September 9, 2011 Red Orchestra 2 here I come. Honestly, I'd probably still be buying it if it was going to be on Steam. But because of all the issues with the alpha (gameplay and interface) I just can't see myself moving over to Origin for a game that I'm not 100% sure I'll even like. The more and more I hear about BF3 the more I think Dice is trying to do too much. Supposed thousands of unlocks? No thanks. Laser sights and flashlights existing only to blind people? Why? Thermal vision? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vargras Posted September 9, 2011 Report Share Posted September 9, 2011 There's no in-game server browser either. If you want to switch servers, you have to actually EXIT THE GAME, then go through Origin and find another server. It's a clunky and horrible system, and DICE is 100% convinced this is the best way to do it. BF2 and BF2142 is the best the series is ever gonna get. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luftwaffles Posted September 9, 2011 Report Share Posted September 9, 2011 It's a clunky and horrible system, and DICE is 100% convinced this is the best way to do it. It's also one more form of DRM. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maritan Posted September 12, 2011 Report Share Posted September 12, 2011 (edited) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2-XylhLXz48 It will be deleted soon, so watch while you still can.Is it really that similar to BFBC2? Don't believe them, it's a conspiracy!Download Link, just to be sure. Edited September 12, 2011 by Maritan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yantelope Posted September 13, 2011 Report Share Posted September 13, 2011 http://www.destructoid.com/battlefield-3-will-ship-on-two-xbox-360-discs-211281.phtml?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+Destructoid+%28Destructoid%29&utm_content=Google+Reader Sweet! Now we can sell the crappy singleplayer disc when we're done and keep the multiplayer. How does this fit into the whole Project 10 dollar thing? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mergedwarrior Posted September 14, 2011 Report Share Posted September 14, 2011 There's no in-game server browser either. If you want to switch servers, you have to actually EXIT THE GAME, then go through Origin and find another server. It's a clunky and horrible system, and DICE is 100% convinced this is the best way to do it. BF2 and BF2142 is the best the series is ever gonna get. alpha is alpha for a reason. BF2142 was a good game, but nowhere near the best of the series. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MasterDex Posted September 14, 2011 Report Share Posted September 14, 2011 There's no in-game server browser either. If you want to switch servers, you have to actually EXIT THE GAME, then go through Origin and find another server. It's a clunky and horrible system, and DICE is 100% convinced this is the best way to do it. BF2 and BF2142 is the best the series is ever gonna get. alpha is alpha for a reason. BF2142 was a good game, but nowhere near the best of the series. It doesn't matter that it's Alpha,that's the way you'll join servers in the final game as well. EA/Dice want people going through the BF website. Link I also highly doubt it was the genuine alpha version. I consider 2142 to be the best in the series too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deanb Posted September 16, 2011 Report Share Posted September 16, 2011 Why BF3 can't have Zombie mode: 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yantelope Posted September 16, 2011 Report Share Posted September 16, 2011 (edited) Were there ads on the Origin site that you browse for games? Is this another effort to trigger hits onto a site to generate ad revenue? That ad revenue could be huge. Edited September 16, 2011 by Yantelope Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Enervation Posted September 17, 2011 Report Share Posted September 17, 2011 Why BF3 can't have Zombie mode: Maybe... just maybe, if they tweak it a bit. One helicopter for all the players. The helicopter only has so much gas, and they will need to repeatedly land to refuel the chopper. Their goal is to either A) kill all the zombies (which they will need to do on the move, since ammo is scarce and they will need to scavenge it) or B) escape (which must be accomplished by doing certain tasks, which should be harder than killing zombies, but takes less time). Of course, for it to happen at all would require a world generation algorithm that BF3 simply cannot do, since such a map would have to be on a massive scale. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mergedwarrior Posted September 18, 2011 Report Share Posted September 18, 2011 They did onslaught mode just fine. They would bring that back, and put the zombie spin on it. Complete the objectives, and zombies are in your way. Just limit the vehicles or maps. You might not even have to limit vehicles, something like a plane would be pretty useless. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luftwaffles Posted September 20, 2011 Report Share Posted September 20, 2011 http://www.joystiq.com/2011/09/20/battlefield-3-open-beta-begins-september-29/ Open beta starts the 29th. And guess what, only rush on Operation Metro. If they had done some conquest or even a different rush map I would probably be a lot more interested, but Operation Metro is pretty awful, in my opinion. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thorgi Duke of Frisbee Posted October 19, 2011 Report Share Posted October 19, 2011 http://www.pcgamer.com/2011/10/19/ea-norway-caught-attempting-to-manipulate-bf3-review-scores-calls-it-a-mistake/ Right, that's it. I'm done supporting Battlefield entirely. If my pre-order weren't already in the system, I would also be cancelling my SWTOR pre-order from Origin. This is fucking despicable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saturnine Tenshi Posted October 19, 2011 Report Share Posted October 19, 2011 Why BF3 can't have Zombie mode: Because we need to kill zombies with fire. No pun intended. Fuck, I'm sick of the tired concept. And you know, Duke, that shit just happens. Often. It's one reason why I hardly ever trust reviews. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thursday Next Posted October 19, 2011 Report Share Posted October 19, 2011 (edited) On a more positive note... PAY NO ATTENTION TO THE MAN BEHIND THE CURTAIN! Especially when EA are pulling totally piss poor PR moves. Edited October 19, 2011 by Thursday Next Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saturnine Tenshi Posted October 19, 2011 Report Share Posted October 19, 2011 I'm finding it really hard to not purchase the shiny bauble. Because after playing the beta, I know these scenes of super-cinematic showdown time aren't something you won't regularly encounter. Hopefully it'll make it to the Get Games library. They've some great deals on new releases. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
madbassman39 Posted October 19, 2011 Report Share Posted October 19, 2011 the questionnaire, to me, doesn't scream "manipulating reviews" as much as "We want to make sure you don't automatically hate battlefield when you review it." Still, I guess that is manipulating reviews, just a different level of manipulation, and its still very un-ethical. I feel really bad for Dice, they are great developers, and are only being hurt by EA's aggressive, and stupid, marketing machine. Why can't they make a good game, and a bunch of non-anti-CoD advertisements and sell it as a Battlefield game, and not a Call of Duty killer. But, if they did that, they wouldn't be able to sell as many copies as they want because there are people (and trust me, being in college I know a lot of them) who will buy the CoD game blindly and wont even look at what Battlefield has to offer, because its NOT Call of Duty. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MasterDex Posted October 19, 2011 Report Share Posted October 19, 2011 the questionnaire, to me, doesn't scream "manipulating reviews" as much as "We want to make sure you don't automatically hate battlefield when you review it." Still, I guess that is manipulating reviews, just a different level of manipulation, and its still very un-ethical. I feel really bad for Dice, they are great developers, and are only being hurt by EA's aggressive, and stupid, marketing machine. Why can't they make a good game, and a bunch of non-anti-CoD advertisements and sell it as a Battlefield game, and not a Call of Duty killer. But, if they did that, they wouldn't be able to sell as many copies as they want because there are people (and trust me, being in college I know a lot of them) who will buy the CoD game blindly and wont even look at what Battlefield has to offer, because its NOT Call of Duty. It's a shame that EA bought out DICE when they did. Had they held off, DICE may have had more success and freedom, even with EA, under the partners program. You're totally right about people not buying it because it's not Call of Duty. EA's insistence on going head-to-head with Activision is probably more of a detriment to sales as your average consumer starts seeing the two games in an "either/or" manner. They start thinking "If I get Call of Duty, there's no point in getting Battlefield, that's my multiplayer FPS for the year" but there's still a chance they'll get other FPS games throughout that year because they're not being told by marketing that you should pick any of them over any other. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maritan Posted October 19, 2011 Report Share Posted October 19, 2011 Is it bad that I don't care about that marketing shit? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MasterDex Posted October 19, 2011 Report Share Posted October 19, 2011 Is it bad that I don't care about that marketing shit? Meh, I don't really care either. I wouldn't say I'm fine with it but I stopped paying heed to review scores a long time ago. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
madbassman39 Posted October 19, 2011 Report Share Posted October 19, 2011 I only care because I like to see games do well, and this marketing seems to be hurting battlefield. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thursday Next Posted October 20, 2011 Report Share Posted October 20, 2011 It's a shame that EA bought out DICE when they did. Had they held off, DICE may have had more success and freedom, even with EA, under the partners program. You're totally right about people not buying it because it's not Call of Duty. EA's insistence on going head-to-head with Activision is probably more of a detriment to sales as your average consumer starts seeing the two games in an "either/or" manner. They start thinking "If I get Call of Duty, there's no point in getting Battlefield, that's my multiplayer FPS for the year" but there's still a chance they'll get other FPS games throughout that year because they're not being told by marketing that you should pick any of them over any other. Actually, EA spend a great deal of time trying to direct DICE away from the anti-CoD marketing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thursday Next Posted October 20, 2011 Report Share Posted October 20, 2011 Ooooh, check this out btw: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MasterDex Posted October 20, 2011 Report Share Posted October 20, 2011 It's a shame that EA bought out DICE when they did. Had they held off, DICE may have had more success and freedom, even with EA, under the partners program. You're totally right about people not buying it because it's not Call of Duty. EA's insistence on going head-to-head with Activision is probably more of a detriment to sales as your average consumer starts seeing the two games in an "either/or" manner. They start thinking "If I get Call of Duty, there's no point in getting Battlefield, that's my multiplayer FPS for the year" but there's still a chance they'll get other FPS games throughout that year because they're not being told by marketing that you should pick any of them over any other. Actually, EA spend a great deal of time trying to direct DICE away from the anti-CoD marketing. Really? Was it not EA that started the campaign rather than DICE. When DICE were saying "BF3 is going to be a true sequel", etc, EA, or rather Riccitiello, was still on about beating Call of Duty. Is this push in the opposite direction just recently? Did EA suddenly realise it could be hurting them more than helping? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thursday Next Posted October 20, 2011 Report Share Posted October 20, 2011 You're right. You probably know better. EA were behind all the marketing you hated. EA DICE did all the marketing you liked. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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