Baconrath Posted November 14, 2015 Report Share Posted November 14, 2015 I'm assuming they got rid of the waiting mechanic 'cause there's nothing in the list of controls that says otherwise. Eh, probably was the source of a lot of bugs anyways... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheMightyEthan Posted November 14, 2015 Report Share Posted November 14, 2015 You have to sit on furniture to wait, which is really stupid. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TCP Posted November 14, 2015 Report Share Posted November 14, 2015 Yeah, fortunately a chair or couch is never too far away, but it's still kind of stupid. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mister Jack Posted November 14, 2015 Report Share Posted November 14, 2015 I think they ran out of buttons to use. If I remember correctly, waiting was done with the back/select button on consoles for Fallout 3. In Fallout 4 that button is for switching the camera modes. The ps4 controller technically has enough buttons to make up for it since the touchpad counts as multiple inputs, but I don't think the Xbone controller does. I don't remember what new mechanic was added that needed a button. I think either sprinting or gun bashing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deanb Posted November 14, 2015 Report Share Posted November 14, 2015 Yeah, sprinting and bash/grenade wasn't a thing in previous games. PC has more than enough buttons but they've managed to mess up a bunch of them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TCP Posted November 14, 2015 Report Share Posted November 14, 2015 (edited) Once again the Xbone is holding the PS4 and PC back!!! Really what they should have done was eliminate 3rd person because anyone who plays a Bethesda game in 3rd person is the worst. That would have freed up a button for wait. Edited November 14, 2015 by The Cowboy Poet 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheMightyEthan Posted November 14, 2015 Report Share Posted November 14, 2015 They didn't need a button for wait, they have the pip boy, they could have put as many extra features in that as they wanted. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TCP Posted November 16, 2015 Report Share Posted November 16, 2015 I have to say *knock on wood* that this is the most bug free Bethesda game I've ever played. Maybe I've just been lucky so far, but I don't think I've really experienced any glitches so far. Even Ass Creed Syndicate crashed on me and had a little bit of weirdness. After the trauma that was Skyrim on PS3, this is good news. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheMightyEthan Posted November 16, 2015 Report Share Posted November 16, 2015 The only real bug I've had was Diamond City Radio going silent on me once, but a quick Google revealed the solution is simply to wait or sleep for 24 hours and it comes back. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mister Jack Posted November 16, 2015 Report Share Posted November 16, 2015 Anybody know how long an npc will remain hostile to your presence if they catch you stealing? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deanb Posted November 16, 2015 Report Share Posted November 16, 2015 Only "game breaking" bugs I've had are a couple of CTDs, which over a now 28hr play span isn't too bad. Other than that just issues with the brahamin in Sanctuary getting on the roof. And once Piper did too then be all "I can't go there" when I tried to get her to walk to me so I could take my loot off her, had to fast travel somewhere. (In fact it not showing up companions on the map is annoying as hell. In fact it does it the same with enemies too, it's only when they see you that they show up in the compass making stealth attacks much harder since you'll just sneak right around a corner into them). No point raising your Perception if you're still tied to physically having to be able to hear Raiders, or see them in a swathe of brown wood, or heck one time I had a floodlight pointed down the corridor I came up so could hardly make out anything). Â But yeah, *touch wood* pretty bug free. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheMightyEthan Posted November 16, 2015 Report Share Posted November 16, 2015 Yeah, the lack of compass indicators is annoying as hell. Â I would imagine that would be easy to mod in though, have a range based on your perception skill and how sneaky they're being. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baconrath Posted November 16, 2015 Report Share Posted November 16, 2015 For those with AMD hardware I recommend disabling godrays. And if that doesn't stick (i.e. reverting to Low) you have to set bVolumetricLightingEnable to 0 in your falloutprefs.ini file in MyDocuments...  I think. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. GOH! Posted November 16, 2015 Report Share Posted November 16, 2015 What factions has everyone joined? Â Â I've joined the Railroad, Minutemen, and Brohood, though I'm guessing I will be kicked out of either the Brohood or Railroad at some point because they have incompatible beliefs.I like that the Brohood is back to being a sort of racist and fascist paramilitary organization, although I don't like how much their lingo seems to borrow from Warhammer 40k Space Marine racism. Â Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheMightyEthan Posted November 16, 2015 Report Share Posted November 16, 2015 I'm not far enough yet. Got the offer to join up with the Brotherhood, but I want to explore my options before committing. Â Joined up with the Minutemen too. Â 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mister Jack Posted November 16, 2015 Report Share Posted November 16, 2015 Â I joined all of those, but I'm probably going to ditch the BoS because they're much bigger pricks than I remembered. Â 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baconrath Posted November 16, 2015 Report Share Posted November 16, 2015 Â I'm with Captain Ironsides and his robot crew :^) Â 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. GOH! Posted November 16, 2015 Report Share Posted November 16, 2015 (edited) Ethan:   I suppose that's in line with your "I will join the faction with the coolest airship" philosophy, since there's no airship at the police station with Brohood. But, FYI, you can join the Brohood and still keep your options open, despite how Danse makes it sound.   Jack:   The FO4 Brohood is in line with the original Brohood from the old games. The portrayal of the Brohood in FO3 very different from how they were in the original Fallout games. They're fascists who hoard technology because regular people cannot be trusted while espousing vaguely fantasy knight-like ideals. Beth wrote them to be good guys, but they were not really good guys in the first two games, though they would certainly help you kill supermutants and other baddies.I don't remember if they were racist against ghouls and such in the original games, but their hatred of synths makes complete sense   Bacon:   It was an honor serving on a vessel with such a storied history and blasting the scavengers to kingdom come with well-times broadsides. Huzzah!  Edited November 16, 2015 by Mr. GOH! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CorgiShinobi Posted November 16, 2015 Report Share Posted November 16, 2015 I've only joined Minutemen so far as I remember BoS not being the most upstanding of factions. Already did the first initial quest and said Maybe to the invitation. Â I'm only 8 hours in and I have Piper as my companion. For the first hour I didn't realize she technically had a second outfit. As we were exploring I would give her whatever decent armor came our way until I noticed her "reporter" outfit and "roader" outfit under it. Â I'm pretty observant, but I also didn't realize you could scroll down in the Perks List and select the grayed out perks as the top row indicates how far down the list you can go. First eight levels I was just adding to the top row... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheMightyEthan Posted November 16, 2015 Report Share Posted November 16, 2015 Ethan: Â Â I suppose that's in line with your "I will join the faction with the coolest airship" philosophy, since there's no airship at the police station with Brohood. But, FYI, you can join the Brohood and still keep your options open, despite how Danse makes it sound. Â Â So joining up with the Brohood doesn't prevent me from joining up with the Institute or Sergeant Pepper's Lonely Hearts Club Band or anyone else later? Can I later leave the Brohood if I decide I'm not picking up what they're putting down? Â Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mister Jack Posted November 17, 2015 Report Share Posted November 17, 2015 I've encountered my first major, game breaking bug. Â Â Preston won't join me as a companion. I could recruit him before, but now when I talk to him it doesn't open the dialogue tree anymore. This is a real problem because I want to earn his unique perk but I can't do that if he won't join me. Â Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CorgiShinobi Posted November 17, 2015 Report Share Posted November 17, 2015 (edited) I've got mine too, but let me NOT spoiler tag this as it's a pain in the ass. Â The mission Confidence Man, where you help out Travis (Diamond City DJ), is super bugged. There's a bar fight where your character and the two opponents are set at Essential. Problem is is that after that bar fight you and the two NPCs retain that Essential status. You can not die and when you have to kill them later, THEY WILL NOT DIE! You may be invincible and have a second companion for the rest of the game, but it's not that fun. Bethesda is already looking into it, but even with all the user fixes, there's still the issue where the player is marked as Essential. Â I'm on PC so I have quite the number of saves before the issue, but I wanted anyone on console to know of this issue. You might have a save before the bar fight, or you might not. Trust me, Travis is not an enjoyable companion. EDIT: You fall down like your companions when you're about to run out of health. Players have remarked how that can glitch the rest of the game, i.e. screwy camera angles and model clipping. Edited November 17, 2015 by Atomsk88 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deanb Posted November 17, 2015 Report Share Posted November 17, 2015 TIL he's a companion. Now I'm curious if I have more companions than I thought (that's in reference to Mister Jacks, thankfully only start of "Confidence Man" so not got the stage. Thanks for the heads up, I'll hold off. tbh I don't mind Travis' radio personality) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CorgiShinobi Posted November 17, 2015 Report Share Posted November 17, 2015 He's definitely designed for that one mission and then done. Was reading a post online about how Travis doesn't sneak, not to mention you can't trade with him. He's just an extra 10mm Pistol. Â Speaking of, is there a definite way of having your companion use a weapon you give them? I know you can have them equip it, but after some time they go back to their default. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deanb Posted November 17, 2015 Report Share Posted November 17, 2015 I've noticed the weapon thing too. I'm feeling you might need to give them ammo too maybe? But if so that'll be balls. I know in older games they'd only equip certain styles of weapons. Might be a bug, or might be a feature. Housemate has the guide, I'll ask him tonight if it mentions anything. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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