TheMightyEthan Posted December 21, 2011 Report Share Posted December 21, 2011 I disagree that that's not helpful, it makes it a 50/50 gamble in the spirit of New Vegas. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luftwaffles Posted December 21, 2011 Report Share Posted December 21, 2011 Honest Hearts is good, Dead Money is not is what I've heard. Out of all of them, I've heard Old World Blues is the best, though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faiblesse Des Sens Posted December 21, 2011 Report Share Posted December 21, 2011 People don't like the last one with the "other" courier? That was the one I was most looking forward to =\ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnny Posted December 22, 2011 Report Share Posted December 22, 2011 Honestly, I'd just find it hilarious if Bethesda lost the rights to the franchise in a legal battle they started in order to fuck with Interplay. Sort of poetic justice. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peteer01 Posted January 1, 2012 Report Share Posted January 1, 2012 Kind of wishing I bought New Vegas at $5. (Only kind of) I was thinking to myself that if there was a way to bring my save file over from my 360, I would have, and then I thought I'd ask to be sure...there is no way to get save data from a 360 HDD and load that save data on the PC version of the game, right? (I'm pretty sure there's not, I just want to be sure.) That game *must* really benefit from a decent gaming PC graphically, and the mods alone would add $5 worth of life to the game..but I can't see myself getting excited about playing through the first half of the game again. (Which is suspiciously free of *anything* of value, including bent tin cans and empty bottles...except for things with red text, because my wasteland wanderer doesn't steal.) I'd have to look, but I bet I have at least a few dozen hours of gameplay in FO:NV. I've done a lot of side quests, exploring and trash collecting, so I don't think I'm close to done, but I can't bring myself to consider selling the game or playing it again. (I have a friend at work who belongs to that GameStop club or whatever the paid membership with trade in bonuses is, and I have a lot of 360 games I'm probably going to trade in in hopes of getting a nice PC mouse, or maybe a nice keyboard and/or Skyrim. Hm. What to do...) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheMightyEthan Posted January 1, 2012 Report Share Posted January 1, 2012 Actually, I don't know that it looks all that much better on PC, at least not enough better to justify buying it again if you already own the 360 version. The real benefit to the pc version is the mod support. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faiblesse Des Sens Posted January 2, 2012 Report Share Posted January 2, 2012 It looks a lot better, especially with mods. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deanb Posted January 2, 2012 Report Share Posted January 2, 2012 Kind of wishing I bought New Vegas at $5. (Only kind of) I was thinking to myself that if there was a way to bring my save file over from my 360, I would have, and then I thought I'd ask to be sure...there is no way to get save data from a 360 HDD and load that save data on the PC version of the game, right? (I'm pretty sure there's not, I just want to be sure.) http://www.xpgamesaves.com/topic/10646-converting-fallout-pc-saves-to-xbox-360/ Fallout 3, Oblivion n Skyrim too iirc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peteer01 Posted January 2, 2012 Report Share Posted January 2, 2012 Kind of wishing I bought New Vegas at $5. (Only kind of) I was thinking to myself that if there was a way to bring my save file over from my 360, I would have, and then I thought I'd ask to be sure...there is no way to get save data from a 360 HDD and load that save data on the PC version of the game, right? (I'm pretty sure there's not, I just want to be sure.) http://www.xpgamesav...es-to-xbox-360/ Fallout 3, Oblivion n Skyrim too iirc. Oh, awesome! That does it...I see Fallout: New Vegas on sale for $5 on PC again, I'm jumping on it! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheMightyEthan Posted January 2, 2012 Report Share Posted January 2, 2012 It looks a lot better, especially with mods. I should clarify: having played it on PC, it doesn't look all that much better to me. The biggest increase in graphical quality came from the ability to have AA and AF. I mean sure, if you look at them side by side PC looks quite a bit better than the console version, but Gamebryo just doesn't look all that great anyway so without a direct comparison the difference isn't super apparent. Qualifier: I haven't played it since April, so I don't know how mods have advanced since then, but at the time I was playing it with upgraded textures and normal maps and everything. Again, it looks better, but it still doesn't look fantastic so the difference isn't super apparent without a direct comparison. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faiblesse Des Sens Posted January 2, 2012 Report Share Posted January 2, 2012 When's the last time you played it on a console? I was playing it literally in the same room as someone who was playing it on console and it looked fucking terrible in comparison. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deanb Posted January 2, 2012 Report Share Posted January 2, 2012 http://www.pcgames.de/Fallout-New-Vegas-PC-231321/Specials/Fallout-New-Vegas-im-Grafikvergleich-PC-vs-Playstation-3-vs-Xbox-360-Wer-gewinnt-794781/galerie/1447828/ For those without Chrome or German skills you want to click "Bild in Originalgröße" for the full size image. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faiblesse Des Sens Posted January 2, 2012 Report Share Posted January 2, 2012 *PC without mods Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peteer01 Posted January 2, 2012 Report Share Posted January 2, 2012 (edited) It looks a lot better, especially with mods. I should clarify: having played it on PC, it doesn't look all that much better to me. The biggest increase in graphical quality came from the ability to have AA and AF. I mean sure, if you look at them side by side PC looks quite a bit better than the console version, but Gamebryo just doesn't look all that great anyway so without a direct comparison the difference isn't super apparent. Qualifier: I haven't played it since April, so I don't know how mods have advanced since then, but at the time I was playing it with upgraded textures and normal maps and everything. Again, it looks better, but it still doesn't look fantastic so the difference isn't super apparent without a direct comparison. Yeah, I'm definitely going to take advantage of some of the mods for the Bethesda games. They already look impressive for Skyrim, so I'm sure there's a good number of polished improvements for New Vegas as well. Even if everything else were the same though, rendering at 1080p with AA and AF and playing without loading times (or close enough) with an SSD would be improvements that I would hope are noticeable enough. Anyone have any first hand experience with both? (Faiblesse?) Edited January 2, 2012 by peteer01 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faiblesse Des Sens Posted January 2, 2012 Report Share Posted January 2, 2012 Are the Skyrim mod tools even out yet? Shit will get really crazy once that happens. Anyways, I'm going to start playing New Vegas again soon and finish up the DLC, so I'll keep you posted on what mods I'm using. I probably need to go back and get the newer versions of all of them. Also, some graphical mods will be preference. As in, if you like night to be REALLY dark, if you want the game to look more "clear", stuff like that. I'm definitely going to use this mod that was just released: http://www.nma-fallout.com/article.php?id=60505 . It was created by one of the devs and looks to me to be perfect for those of us who thought the game was too damn easy. All of the changes seem to be "New Vegas if we didn't have to make it accessible for everyone." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peteer01 Posted January 2, 2012 Report Share Posted January 2, 2012 (edited) http://www.pcgames.de/Fallout-New-Vegas-PC-231321/Specials/Fallout-New-Vegas-im-Grafikvergleich-PC-vs-Playstation-3-vs-Xbox-360-Wer-gewinnt-794781/galerie/1447828/ For those without Chrome or German skills you want to click "Bild in Originalgröße" for the full size image. I like those comparisons, but I'd really like to see 1920 x 1080 instead of 1,280 x 720, since I'm going to be gaming on a 1080p monitor, and had been gaming on a 1080p projector and TV (current TV in the states is only 720p). (I guess that's a roundabout way of me saying that I expect the visual differences to be more pronounced at 1080p than at 720p, although you can definitely tell which one is PC in those. ) Edited January 2, 2012 by peteer01 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faiblesse Des Sens Posted January 2, 2012 Report Share Posted January 2, 2012 I don't think that comparison exists... because it only runs at 720p on consoles. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deanb Posted January 2, 2012 Report Share Posted January 2, 2012 http://www.escapistmagazine.com/news/view/114996-Fallout-New-Vegas-Project-Director-Releases-Personal-Mod Project Director has made his own mod for New Vegas. Think of it as a sort of Directors cut. I quite like this idea. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheMightyEthan Posted January 2, 2012 Report Share Posted January 2, 2012 (edited) When's the last time you played it on a console? I was playing it literally in the same room as someone who was playing it on console and it looked fucking terrible in comparison. That would be a side-by-side comparison. I acknowledged that it would look a lot better on a side-by-side comparison. Edited January 2, 2012 by TheMightyEthan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peteer01 Posted January 2, 2012 Report Share Posted January 2, 2012 I don't think that comparison exists... because it only runs at 720p on consoles. Not sure about PS3, but I'm pretty sure the 360 version will upscale pretty much anything to 1080p. I know a lot of games are actually running at resolutions like 960x540 and then upscaling that to either 1080p or 720p depending on what you've got the console settings set to. So, while I could be wrong, I'm +90% sure that if you were recording the 360's output when you're playing on a console set to output 1080p, it's sending 1920x1080 frames to the TV, thanks to a physical scaling chip in the console. If either console is actually rendering at less than 720p, then the image is being upscaled either way, and the higher resolution might not make a big difference, but if either/both consoles are rendering at 720p, those images would have an even bigger quality gap upscaled to 1080p compared to a PC actually rendering each frame at 1080p. Anyway, to Ethan's point: That would be a side-by-side comparison. I acknowledged that it would look a lot better on a side-by-side comparison. I'm not sure what it is about Fallout New Vegas specifically...maybe I've just played on the 360 long enough, with enough hours on Fallout 3, that it looks dated because I've seen it before or because it looks like what I've been looking at for the last 6 years...but New Vegas's graphics definitely bug me for some reason. It probably helps to consider that the last few games I've been playing are SSFIV (which wouldn't really benefit nearly as much from increased visual fidelity), LEGO Batman (play it with my son, and the game looks how it's supposed to look), Sonic's Genesis collection (again, looks how it should) and MW3 (which you would think would fall into the "looks like it has for the last six years" category...but is a better looking game than most 360 games, including New Vegas.) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deanb Posted January 3, 2012 Report Share Posted January 3, 2012 http://www.duckandcover.cx/archives.php?topstory=131 They've reached a settlement. Details of which coming later this month. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faiblesse Des Sens Posted January 9, 2012 Report Share Posted January 9, 2012 (edited) Mods (google dat shit): Fallout Mod Manager (FOMM) - Essential when you start to get a bunch of mods because load order matters. Conelrad- Adds in a radio statio with a good amount of music and real nuclear threat recordings from the time. Mission Mojave- http://www.ravenmodd...l47.net/?p=1243 This is where I ended up after searching for the update to my "invisible wall remover" mod. The J. Sawyer Mod Bullet Impact Increased LOD- Makes it so you can see bullet impact farther away. More coming... needed to download more DLC. I will update this post. Going through this list right now btw. It's from March, so it's more updated than other things I've seen. http://www.gamefront...new-vegas-mods/ They seem to list a lot of stuff I already had in my folder =D Nevada Skies, MTUI, Project Nevada Edited January 9, 2012 by Faiblesse Des Sens Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheMightyEthan Posted January 9, 2012 Report Share Posted January 9, 2012 Definitely recommend Nevada Skies. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deanb Posted January 9, 2012 Report Share Posted January 9, 2012 http://www.vg247.com/2012/01/09/bethesda-secures-fallout-mmo-rights/ Well shit. Basically Bethesda(zenimax) now has complete rights to all things Fallout, with exception to Fallout 1, 2 n tactics which Interplay get to keep til 2013. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faiblesse Des Sens Posted January 9, 2012 Report Share Posted January 9, 2012 So the MMO is dead, old shit is being pulled off GoG in a year, and no other company will be making the titles unless of course Beth gives them the rights to publish? ;_: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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