TheMightyEthan Posted March 25, 2013 Report Share Posted March 25, 2013 Cheapest tactic: right at the very beginning select all your workers and run them to the enemy base to attack. Zerg workers are strongest, Protoss workers are weakest. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toxicitizen Posted March 25, 2013 Report Share Posted March 25, 2013 Question: As a total n00b, what are the cheapest tactics to use? Like I said, you don't really need to worry about tactic at this level. That being said, to answer your question, the cheapest tactics are called "cheese". Basically, it's rushing to a very specific build so that you can attack your opponent before he's ready. I can't tell you of any specific one because I never bothered learning any, but know that they are very high risk tactics. A good player will be able to hold his own against a cheeser and once it has failed, the cheeser is at a significant disadvantage. There's almost no coming back from it. To give you an idea, there's a pretty good youtube series called When Cheese Fails. It's two guys casting replays of games where cheese was attempted and failed miserably. It's pretty damn funny. Here's the playlist for the first season Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luftwaffles Posted March 26, 2013 Report Share Posted March 26, 2013 Agreed on When Cheese Fails. IMO the cheapest is a 6pool (zergling rush) if you're playing Bronze league, Cannon rush (protoss cannons right outside/in opponent's base) for anything higher. Any player worth their salt can defend against those though. Good thing I can't. :3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NeoStarr Posted March 31, 2013 Report Share Posted March 31, 2013 Question: As a total n00b, what are the cheapest tactics to use? Don't let anybody tell you cheesing is anything but hilarious and effective at all levels. MVP cheesed something like 70% of his games in one GSL and is often called one of the best macro Terrans there is. Also, cheesing is pretty much the only thing you see in high ranked multiplayer games (2v2 and up). That said... Terran 6-Rax All-in 10 - depot 12 - barracks depot when barracks is done 16 - orbital command; stop building scvs, queue up 4 marines in barracks, drop mules as often as possible @750 minerals - build 5 more barracks queue up 3 depots with one scv while barracks are building push out at exactly 6 minutes. You should have 12 marines. Rally your barracks to one of the marines. Continue mule dropping and supply depot building, but this attack should do enough damage to end the game. Two-Rax Reaper (aka 8/8/8 Reaper) (HotS only) 8 - depot, cut scv production, send out an scv to proxy 8 - when depot is done drop a proxy barracks immediately, then a gas. Put 3 guys on gas as soon as it finishes. When barracks is done, build another one and start your first reaper. Rally both barracks directly into the opponents base. Start building SCVs again but only when you have extra minerals; prioritize reapers. Whether or not this build works depends entirely on how well you control your reapers. Target fire units first, then SCVs, and pull weak reapers back to heal. I think this is one of the funnest builds to both do and defend against right now. Zerg 7 pool Fun fact: the timing on a 7 pool is about the same as the timing on a 6 pool but you get a queen earlier and have an extra drone. 6 - drone 7 - pool 6 - drone 7 - drone 8 - overlord rally your hatch to the enemy base and make 6 lings as soon as your spawning pool finishes. Bring a drone with the attack if you're playing against a zerg and build a spine crawler on their creep. Continue spamming lings with every larvae @150 minerals - queen (spam larvae) Keep an eye on your supply, you'll need an overlord soon after the queen When you've decided your attack has succeeded/failed, go back to building drones. Baneling Bust (ZvT build) 13 - gas 13 - pool when pool is done, build a baneling nest immediately and start spamming lings. Queen @ 150 minerals Keep your lings at the enemies natural expansion. Morph 6 of them into banelings as soon as you can. When banelings are done, target a supply depot on the terran wall with them. When the supply depot goes down run your zerglings in, kill any marines he might have, and wreck havoc on the mineral line. 1-Base Roach Rush 14 - pool 14 - gas Roach warren when pool is done, queen. ~18-20 - build 2-3 overlords (roaches take up lots of supply) Spam roaches when warren finishes and attack when you think you have enough of them (7-`12 should work). 12-drone rush (this absolutely totally works; i've done it quite a few times) Once you have 10 drones and about 100 minerals, build 2 geysers, spawn two more drones, and then cancel the geysers. This should leave you at 12/10 supply. When you have 150 minerals, send all your drones to attack, and build 1 overlord behind it. Get a drone when the overlord finishes. Attack the opponents workers and don't let them build stuff. All your opponent has to do is select all their workers and a-move them into yours. 99% of people WILL NOT do this. They will panic and try to micro and fail hard. Some guy on TeamLiquid got into platinum league doing this. Protoss I'm actually terrible with protoss, so I can't help you much here. I'm sure you can find the 4-gate or cannon rush build online. Oracle rush - Pylon - Gateway - Cybercore - Stargate - Oracle. Send the oracle to the opponents mineral line and attack the workers. Some people say this isn't cheese. We call them high diamond league Protoss players.. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toxicitizen Posted March 31, 2013 Report Share Posted March 31, 2013 Yeah, cheesing is a legit way to play. Anyone that says otherwise is just butthurt. That being said, there is a big difference between MVP doing it and some random dude in bronze doing it. One is a thought out strategic move, the other is just not good enough to win otherwise. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NeoStarr Posted March 31, 2013 Report Share Posted March 31, 2013 I'll back that up. Those builds won't make you any better at 1v1. I think it's debatable for 2v2 and up though; but those aren't really all that serious. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toxicitizen Posted March 31, 2013 Report Share Posted March 31, 2013 Ha, yeah I was actually talking with a friend of mine last night. He used to play a lot of 2v2 and was telling me what their main plan was. It was pretty much a cheese. His teammate would rush to speedlings and attack the front of one base to distract while he sneak-warped a bunch of units in the corner of the other base. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NeoStarr Posted March 31, 2013 Report Share Posted March 31, 2013 The other day my friend and I dropped our placement matches, started in bronze league, and got to platinum in about two and a half hours just doing double 7 pools. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toxicitizen Posted November 7, 2014 Report Share Posted November 7, 2014 OH GOD, YES!! I kinda feel like the wait for this one was much shorter than it was for HotS. Also, it's standalone. I understand why but meh. It better integrate with the old client for those that are already up to date because I don't want two completely separate installs/programs just to have access to all 3 campaigns. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IDDQD Posted June 6, 2015 Report Share Posted June 6, 2015 Just finished Heart of The Swarm, man I'm so pumped up for third and final act of the story. So good. They should make some kind of RPG out of this. Or better yet - an animated movie. That opening cinematic is the coolest shit ever. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toxicitizen Posted September 14, 2015 Report Share Posted September 14, 2015 (edited) Coming November 10th. I see I said the same thing when I posted the last trailer but man, this one feels like it came much faster than HotS. My anticipation and excitement for the series being higher at the time probably had something to do with it. I haven't really paid much attention to SC2 the past couple years. Not sure if I'll be getting this one at launch, though. I definitely want to play it but I might hold off a bit if I don't have the time/desire to play it right away. Although, now that XCOM 2 has been bumped to 2016, I'm not sure what else there is for me in Nov. Edited September 14, 2015 by FLD 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheMightyEthan Posted September 14, 2015 Report Share Posted September 14, 2015 Yeah, I'm not sure what it is, but I was freaking pumped for HotS whereas for this one I'll just get it when I get around to it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toxicitizen Posted November 6, 2015 Report Share Posted November 6, 2015 Urge to pre-order rising... 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheMightyEthan Posted November 6, 2015 Report Share Posted November 6, 2015 Yeah, I already would have except Fallout 4 trumps it. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toxicitizen Posted November 7, 2015 Report Share Posted November 7, 2015 Lol. I seriously feel like the only person that's not hyped for Fallout 4. I almost wish I was but I just can't bring myself to buy a Bethesda game at launch. Plus, what they've shown kinda feels like it's gone in a direction I'm not super keen on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MetalCaveman Posted March 19, 2016 Report Share Posted March 19, 2016 First mission pack confirmed for March 29. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MetalCaveman Posted July 22, 2016 Report Share Posted July 22, 2016 http://us.battle.net/sc2/en/blog/20180450/celebrating-starcraft-ii%E2%80%99s-6th-anniversary-7-22-2016 6th Anniversary of StarCraft 2! \m/ \m/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MetalCaveman Posted July 27, 2016 Report Share Posted July 27, 2016 Trailer for mission pack 2. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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MetalCaveman Posted October 12, 2016 Report Share Posted October 12, 2016 \m/ \m/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MetalCaveman Posted October 15, 2016 Report Share Posted October 15, 2016 Anyone here still playing? Haven't tried co-op yet, looks fun, but everyone I know that plays SC completely forgot about it after Fallout 4. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MetalCaveman Posted November 5, 2016 Report Share Posted November 5, 2016 (edited) Siege tanks with integrated spine crawlers! \m/ \m/ Edit: DeepMind now working with SC2, that's pretty cool, looking forward to what it'll be capable of doing after some practice. Edited November 5, 2016 by MetalCaveman 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mal Posted November 5, 2016 Report Share Posted November 5, 2016 Imagine a competent AI that doesn't have to cheat. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MetalCaveman Posted November 22, 2016 Report Share Posted November 22, 2016 The last mission pack in the Nova DLC is now available! \m/ \m/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheMightyEthan Posted November 22, 2016 Report Share Posted November 22, 2016 I'd say I picked the right time to buy the game, but Amazon's order status is currently "we'll let you know when we have one to send you". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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