Thursday Next Posted June 25, 2012 Report Share Posted June 25, 2012 Sometimes lmgtfy is the perfect answer. Some people are really rather lazy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheMightyEthan Posted June 25, 2012 Report Share Posted June 25, 2012 And in the process of researching this I was also reminded that I really hate when someone asks a question on a forum, then posts back and says "nvm. fixed it." without any explanation how / why / what the hell happened... Â OMG this! A million times this! Â Â As far as lmgtfy, I agree that sometimes it's an appropriate response, but before using it you should at least make sure that the answer is readily findable in the results. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thursday Next Posted June 25, 2012 Report Share Posted June 25, 2012 Well, sure of course you check the lmgtfy before posting it. Just like you check that searching the forum for a thread brings up the right thread before you tell someone to go search the damned forum. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eleven Posted June 25, 2012 Report Share Posted June 25, 2012 "I wholeheartedly disagree" Â then simply put the damned link in there. no need to take the additional two steps it would take you to get a lmgtfy link. Â sending a lmgtfy link won't do anyone any good. the poster is offended. the other posters will think you are a jerk, or at least derail a topic for such a douche move. putting the correct link in there and saying "This is what google says, it seems to solve your problem check it out" works better. Â You can't teach someone by insulting them. lmgtfy is simply a jerk move. If the text in there wasn't so condescending it would have been fine. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hot Heart Posted June 25, 2012 Report Share Posted June 25, 2012 I only use lmgtfy to be a jerk. Â And, sometimes, it's better/nicer to have people you know and trust explain or recommend things rather than scouring search results. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheMightyEthan Posted June 25, 2012 Report Share Posted June 25, 2012 Sometimes people ask really dumb questions which justify a condescending, jerky response. For instance, if someone were to post on Yahoo Answers asking "What is Wikipedia?" then Let Me Google That For You would be a perfectly reasonable response. Â Now, if it just comes up in conversation, like person A says "Well according to Wikipedia blah blah blah" and person B asks "What's Wikipedia" then yeah, lmgtfy is probably not warranted. And people do use it a lot when it's unnecessarily mean. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eleven Posted June 25, 2012 Report Share Posted June 25, 2012 (edited) Which reminds me of another one... Â People shooting down your argument because you linked to Wikipedia. Or just commenting something like "saw your wikipedia link and stopped reading". Â First of all, if you're gonna say that, make sure that the wikipedia article doesn't link to a goddamn source. Wikipedia is great for linking and compiling information. It's perfectly fine to link to it. Â Plus the odds of a Wikipedia article being wrong is way lower than it being correct. I based that on the statistics machine in my head. Â EDIT: Â @Ethan but these are not the kind of questions where lmgtfy links are posted and you know it! Edited June 25, 2012 by elev3n 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheMightyEthan Posted June 25, 2012 Report Share Posted June 25, 2012 Yeah, that bugs me too. If the article has sources it's perfectly acceptable to link to it as a source. Â Wikipedia is comparably reliable to other reference sources. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strangelove Posted June 25, 2012 Author Report Share Posted June 25, 2012 YOLO 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mal Posted June 25, 2012 Report Share Posted June 25, 2012 Wikipedia is actually pretty fine starting point for any high school to early college research paper or for a refresher. Just don't link it directly and make sure the sources are good. Also don't forget the usual means of researching a topic. Â And fuck YOLO. Hell, what the fuck is it and where did it come from? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheMightyEthan Posted June 25, 2012 Report Share Posted June 25, 2012 http://knowyourmeme.com/memes/yolo  I actually used Wikipedia for the starting point for papers I wrote in law school. Obviously I didn't use it as a source, but it's handy for getting a quick, broad overview of a subject, and sometimes for finding sources to actually use. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strangelove Posted June 25, 2012 Author Report Share Posted June 25, 2012 I think YOLO is from some rapper or something. Â Also, we didn't have Wikipedia when I was in college, that would have been awesome to have. BTW, since everything finds its way online nowadays, do people ever scan or put college textbooks online for people to use so they dont buy the textbooks? I have grown so reliant on never buying books or magazines because I can find the e-book or the article online. Do people do that with textbooks? Cus they should. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eleven Posted June 25, 2012 Report Share Posted June 25, 2012 http://lmgtfy.com/?q=US+college+textbooks+online  Goodnight or Goodmorning everyone whatever! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strangelove Posted July 3, 2012 Author Report Share Posted July 3, 2012 (edited) This isnt an "innernet" pet peeve, just a pet peeve in general(maybe we should change the name of the thread), but Vegans need to get their shit straight. Just because you fold a leaf of lettuce and put asparagus and onions in it doesn't make it a "Vegan taco" and just because you put tomatoes and mushrooms on top of a slice of cactus doesnt make it a "Vegan pizza." Its just a salad, man. Â BTW I dont even know if the things I used as examples exist, but my point still stands. Edited July 3, 2012 by Strangelove 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vecha Posted July 3, 2012 Report Share Posted July 3, 2012 (edited) Which reminds me of another one... Â People shooting down your argument because you linked to Wikipedia. Or just commenting something like "saw your wikipedia link and stopped reading". Â First of all, if you're gonna say that, make sure that the wikipedia article doesn't link to a goddamn source. Wikipedia is great for linking and compiling information. It's perfectly fine to link to it. Â Plus the odds of a Wikipedia article being wrong is way lower than it being correct. I based that on the statistics machine in my head. Â Â Â 100andinfinite agree. Â It bugs me when people in the real world(mainly high school teachers) tell their students not to use wikipedia! Â As long as the kid uses it as a jumping off point, it is perfectly fine. Â Â Â What bugs me on the net? Â People who get into arguments on whether or not something is Ironic. Â Yes, there is a difference between Ironic and Luck. But beyond that...as long as the situation/action/whatever is something that isn't expected then yes...IT IS FUCKING IRONIC! (This also ties in with people arguing over what the TRUE definition of a word is...like Atheist vs. Agnostic. Debating/calling eachothers name over a definition of a word that has multiple perceptions of the definition. Gah!) Edited July 3, 2012 by Vecha Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deanb Posted July 3, 2012 Report Share Posted July 3, 2012 I think the wikipedia thing with teachers is if they just say "don't use it" then it saves them having to put the modicum of effort into teaching their students how to properly use it. Which is a shame because when used properly it's a really good study tool and would greatly help out students from just an hour lesson to slip in somewhere on the child's education. When the time comes I'll certainly be teaching my little sisters how to use Wikipedia. And cos they'll be using it properly their teachers will most likely never know. Â I'm pretty sure Ironic isn't just "something unexpected". That'd be "surprising|" or "unexpected". Also Agnostic n Atheist are pretty strict terms, nothing really to argue on deifntion. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strangelove Posted July 4, 2012 Author Report Share Posted July 4, 2012 I hate the "dudebro" thing. It's old. I'm not a fan of those people and the games they like to play or movies they like to see, but I'm less of a fan of those who put all the blame of every little thing on them. It's getting out of hand. It's not their fault that they enjoy the things they enjoy. It's not even the fault of the companies that cater to them since there's tons of money to be made there. You'll be much happier just minding your own business. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vecha Posted July 4, 2012 Report Share Posted July 4, 2012   I'm pretty sure Ironic isn't just "something unexpected". That'd be "surprising|" or "unexpected".  http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/ironic  There are many "forms" of irony.  Situational. Verbal. Dramatic.  Essentially..it boils down to something happening that goes against what is to be expected. So yeah..."surprise" really doesn't work there. A "Surprise" isn't irony. An unexpected outcome to a situation is Irony. An unexpected response to a situation is irony. An unexpected turn of events for a character in story(in which the audience knows what's up) is irony. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mister Jack Posted July 4, 2012 Report Share Posted July 4, 2012 I think that it isn't just something unexpected, but something that's the exact opposite of what is expected. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deanb Posted July 4, 2012 Report Share Posted July 4, 2012 If Ironic just meant "unexpected" then nearly everything would be ironic. e.g It was ironic that I was seated next to my cousin at the dinner Doesn't really work as an ironic situation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eleven Posted July 4, 2012 Report Share Posted July 4, 2012 Replace "is irony" with "could be irony" in Vecha's post and I think we'll be fine! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnny Posted July 4, 2012 Report Share Posted July 4, 2012 Agnostic.  Oh dear. There are so many types of agnosticism.  Strong religious agnostic religious agnostic strong undecided agnostic undecided agnostic strong atheist agnostic atheist agnostic  etc. etc. There's also a branch called ignostic which refuses to discuss the generalized concept of god unless presented with a specific and consistent definition of such.  Most people I meet seem to think that agnostic means "polite atheist" or some such, which is bull. I'm an agnostic atheist. Meaning I do not think I KNOW there is no god, but I see no reason to believe there is one.  If I were to believe it is impossible to know whether god exists or not, I'd term myself strongly agnostic atheist. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
madbassman39 Posted July 4, 2012 Report Share Posted July 4, 2012 Another one for me. Comparing used games to a used car. They aren't the same, a car needs repairs and maintenance. Every car NEEDS money to be spent to continue to drive, and every car company has the ability to make profit off of repairs and maintenance. Did you know you can buy toyota brand oil? Honda brand steering fluid? Used cars still generate revenue for the auto makers, very unlike used games. I support used game sales, but buying a used car is not even remotely the same. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vecha Posted July 4, 2012 Report Share Posted July 4, 2012 (edited) If Ironic just meant "unexpected" then nearly everything would be ironic. e.g It was ironic that I was seated next to my cousin at the dinner Doesn't really work as an ironic situation. Â Well, yeah. Why would it even be "unexpected to sit next to your cousin? You'd have to explain why it is unexpected. Â Â If you finish/explain that sentence it could very well be. Â Â My cousin and I had hated each other for years, everyone knew this, and knew to keep us separated. it was ironic that we were to be seated next to each other at his sister's wedding. Â Â Again, it has to do with the situation. Just sitting next to someone as a surprise isn't. If it is unexpected, yes. But Unexpected and Surprise aren't always the same(and yes, they do have alot to do with eachother.) Â The ex-husband situation in the dictionary link I posted IS irony....as obviously, well most of the time, you don't place Ex wife and hubby together. Â Again...it is dependent on the situation. Â Â This is what I meant by the pet peeve....everyone arguing against the definition. Â Â Replace "is irony" with "could be irony" in Vecha's post and I think we'll be fine! Â Sure, I'll compromise to that. Â But chance are, many, many things are Ironic. It depends on how you are viewing some as unexpected. Â Â I think that it isn't just something unexpected, but something that's the exact opposite of what is expected. Â Well...most definitions will/do use unexpected. Â But yes, the opposite of what is expected is right. It depends on the situation. Edited July 4, 2012 by Vecha Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vecha Posted July 4, 2012 Report Share Posted July 4, 2012 Agnostic.  Oh dear. There are so many types of agnosticism.  Strong religious agnostic religious agnostic strong undecided agnostic undecided agnostic strong atheist agnostic atheist agnostic  etc. etc. There's also a branch called ignostic which refuses to discuss the generalized concept of god unless presented with a specific and consistent definition of such.  Most people I meet seem to think that agnostic means "polite atheist" or some such, which is bull. I'm an agnostic atheist. Meaning I do not think I KNOW there is no god, but I see no reason to believe there is one.  If I were to believe it is impossible to know whether god exists or not, I'd term myself strongly agnostic atheist.  You could use those terms "Strong, Undecided, etc etc" with pretty much any word that has to do with a group of people. Capitalism, Socialism, and on and on. Not disagreeing with you though. I feel the same way.  However...Agnosticism has to do with believing there is no absolute knowledge on pretty much anything. But as time has gone on, people have adjusted the definition to fit their own views on life/the world.  But again, not disagreeing with you. I see myself as a spiritual, religious agnostic. I have hope that there is a God. I do not, and can not, know this is a fact.  This may seem to go against my stance on Irony...but it doesn't. Irony is dependent on the situation, just like someone's faith, or absence of such, is dependent on their life experience/situation. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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