TheFlyingGerbil Posted February 11, 2015 Report Share Posted February 11, 2015 (edited) "I don't accept that first point as a valid reason at all. Because the game has fewer modes of play, that makes it worth more?" That's not what I said. I said it maintains it perceived value better, and it does. NIntendo's focus on offline play, (whether single or multiplayer) means if you buy NSMB Wii U* today or when it launched you will have the same experience. If you booted up most 2/3 year old online focused games the lobby would be a ghost town That means if you buy it now most of the value left is from the single player portion of the game so a lot of the perceived value is gone. The rest of that paragraph agrees with what I say in the last paragraph - that more games should maintain their value, not just Nintendo's, so don't get me wrong I am not arguing Nintendo games are better or inherently worth more. *not saying how good that game actually is, just that it's been out longer than 3D World, so is a better comparison edit: I do think if the whole market went the same way as Nintendo's games we would actually be in a much better position, both for consumers and publishers. Fewer, better quality games that are actually worth their asking price, which you would be happy to pay as you know that price won't have halved by the time you finish the game. Of course this can never really happen now unless the recent closures/mergers become an all out crash (which may happen?) or all heads of major publishers decided a unanimous step change in how they carried out their business (which won't happen heads of companies (in any field) seem loathe to make long term decisions that are hard in the short term as it freaks shareholders out). Edited February 12, 2015 by TheFlyingGerbil 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pojodin Posted February 12, 2015 Report Share Posted February 12, 2015 (edited) Very eloquently put TheFlyingGerbil! Edited February 12, 2015 by Pojodin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baconrath Posted February 24, 2015 Report Share Posted February 24, 2015 You dang kids stop putting "Gaming" in your name! We know what you're doing! It's not like you have your own brand of gaming/420yoloswag. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheFlyingGerbil Posted February 27, 2015 Report Share Posted February 27, 2015 I freaking hate forums that keep track of "new content" rather than unread content. If there are two and a half new pages but it only takes me to half way down the last page I'm not going to have fun working out were I was last time and rereading half the thread again to do it. or even more annoyingly if I'm interested in a thread, maybe even replied to it but I come back outside the new content window of time (whatever that may be) so I don't even realise it's had new replies. I guess it makes the forum less complicated/data heavy/faster as it only has to mark up a global list of posts from the last two hours or whatever, rather than track info for every thread for every member? Still. Makes forums much more frustrating to use. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eleven Posted February 27, 2015 Report Share Posted February 27, 2015 I end up reading years old posts that way , sometimes back to 2013 and I'm wondering why people are "guessing" features of the game when it was out months ago. All I really wanted to do was continue reading that last comment I found interesting. Although, I guess that way is better practically. I just don't bother reading some threads so that happens. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deanb Posted February 27, 2015 Report Share Posted February 27, 2015 Wait, you're not talking about here right, cos here the "New Content" stuff does only show you unread content (well, mines set for 24hrs, but you can twiddle with other settings), marking unread content in a dark blue n everything in a faded grey. And when you click through to it, it takes you to your last unread post. There's times where it accidentally takes you to the front page (though I think that might be with with fat fingers on phones/tablets) but still retains your last position. I believe there is a limit to how long it'll track your unread data for though, which I think is about 2 weeks or so. I don't know, I've never left anything unread for more than a week. edit: Also in case anyone isn't aware: star symbol means you've joined in that thread, and a circle means you've yet to respond. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheFlyingGerbil Posted February 27, 2015 Report Share Posted February 27, 2015 It works how I like it here, and if it didn't I'd have mentioned it constructively in forum suggestions not come in the ranting thread and be like, 'oi Dean, sort it out you knob!' - even if that was what I was secretly thinking,lol. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mister Jack Posted February 27, 2015 Report Share Posted February 27, 2015 If you ever read a news article online, don't ever read the comments section, not even for the hell of it. Holy shit, every time I do I remember why people build weapons of mass destruction. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eleven Posted February 27, 2015 Report Share Posted February 27, 2015 A lot of you may not agree, but I find reading gawker comments better than most. I actually like displaying only top rated comments and hiding a lot of posts that don't really add much to the discussion. On those sites, if something interests me I go through the trouble of clicking on things for the rest of the replies to appear. I think it's better than having a "no censorship" free for all with never ending threads of idiocy and rants. As for other news sites, I prepare myself and hope for the best as I navigate the section in search of things that add to the topic. I end up with a negative feeling though. So I do make a conscious effort to just not read comments at all to save myself from feeling bad. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mister Jack Posted February 27, 2015 Report Share Posted February 27, 2015 On another note: if you sell something to another person online, show a little common sense and include a tracking number for the package! Jesus Christ, I can't believe everyone doesn't do this already. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheFlyingGerbil Posted February 27, 2015 Report Share Posted February 27, 2015 I've got something expensive coming over from france at the moment without a tracking number, so I've no idea where it is or if it will arrive. I will not be relaxed until it does. There unfortunately wasn't an option for it to have one as I would have happily paid a bit extra for one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheRevanchist Posted February 27, 2015 Report Share Posted February 27, 2015 (edited) I've got something expensive coming over from france ooo-la-la! Naughty! Edited February 27, 2015 by TheRevanchist 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thursday Next Posted March 2, 2015 Report Share Posted March 2, 2015 A lot of you may not agree, but I find reading gawker comments better than most. I actually like displaying only top rated comments and hiding a lot of posts that don't really add much to the discussion. On those sites, if something interests me I go through the trouble of clicking on things for the rest of the replies to appear. I think it's better than having a "no censorship" free for all with never ending threads of idiocy and rants. As for other news sites, I prepare myself and hope for the best as I navigate the section in search of things that add to the topic. I end up with a negative feeling though. So I do make a conscious effort to just not read comments at all to save myself from feeling bad. The issue with that system is that it generally favours the quickest posters as insightful comments that appear later will be hidden while the initial crowd pleasers get more views, more upvotes and therefore become entrenched. Not saying it is bad, just pointing out that it is not perfect. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strangelove Posted March 9, 2015 Author Report Share Posted March 9, 2015 I hate that "roguelike" is a genre. I have nothing against the actual thing, but the name is terrible. It tells you absolutely nothing about what type of game it is. Even I'm not sure. Rogue. Like. What the fuck. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thursday Next Posted March 9, 2015 Report Share Posted March 9, 2015 I'm going to assume that you know where the Rogue in Roguelike comes from. I agree that it doesn't tell you much in terms of charcters, controls and so forth. But it does capture the essence of the thing. FTL and Rogue Legacy are very different games, but both in the roguelike genre, and I like them both because they are in that genre. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strangelove Posted March 9, 2015 Author Report Share Posted March 9, 2015 I only know the rogue class in RPGs and the one from the Xmen. That's about it. And i guess as a word. Being a rogue and whatnot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deanb Posted March 9, 2015 Report Share Posted March 9, 2015 Rogue was a game from the '80s. All games after it that were similar in mechanics (randomised rooms/enemies, permadeath, etc) were "roguelikes". I'm to understand at first the genre of games we know as "First Person Shooter" was originally "Doomlikes". A fair few games fall under "adventure", which doesn't tell you much. And technically Portal and Mirror's Edge are "FPS" games, just not at all like COD, Halo and co. Video game genre naming conventions are terrible, even more so as we head deeper into the world of having stories tied to them too. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faiblesse Des Sens Posted March 9, 2015 Report Share Posted March 9, 2015 (edited) Portal is a first-person puzzle game. It's not a shooter. The same (mostly) goes for Mirror's Edge, Antichamber, Quantum Conondrum, etc. But yeah, this is a type of media where the name of the type itself (video games) does a terrible job at saying what it actually is. Edited March 9, 2015 by Faiblesse Des Sens 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eleven Posted March 9, 2015 Report Share Posted March 9, 2015 Under today's classifications, what is a roguelike then? Shouldn't it have some generic genre name by now? Or maybe it's too specific a genre, that you can't dump it into "first person"/"third person" "action"/"shooter"/"puzzle" game? Are there other genres that are like this? Or maybe it's not really a genre, but kind of a gameplay mechanic or something? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thursday Next Posted March 9, 2015 Report Share Posted March 9, 2015 I think you mostly see "[Genre] with Roguelike elements" these days. So FTL would be a "Roguelike Strategy Game" and Rogue Legacy would be a "Roguelike, Hack and Slash, Dungeon Crawler". Much like Portal would be an FPS Puzzle Platformer. I think as Dean said, these big umbrella terms are less and less useful as games get more and more complex. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eleven Posted March 9, 2015 Report Share Posted March 9, 2015 Umbrella terms are fine, IMO. They're a bigger classification that we need in order to easily group things and narrow things down from there, and they do the job well. I believe we had a topic by TC regarding this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheMightyEthan Posted March 9, 2015 Report Share Posted March 9, 2015 I think part of the reason that roguelike didn't get a more generic name like doomlike did is because until very recently roguelikes have been very niche. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mister Jack Posted March 9, 2015 Report Share Posted March 9, 2015 Rogue Legacy isn't even a roguelike depending on who you ask. "Teh hardcorez" call games like that roguelites, which just makes it that much more complicated. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strangelove Posted March 12, 2015 Author Report Share Posted March 12, 2015 When people pretend something doesn't exist. Like a sequel to a game, movie or an episode/season of a tv show or whatever. I get that you hate it and you're trying to be cute, but it's reach its amount of cuteness. Now it's just annoying. Don't get me wrong, I also wish The Office had ended around season 5 or 6 or that Robocop 2, 3 and the remake didn't exist, but they're a thing and I gotta live with it. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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