Enervation Posted April 6, 2011 Report Share Posted April 6, 2011 I remember how someone kept correcting "amendment" to "amendement" for me when I was talking in a chat. Douchetard. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Little Pirate Posted April 6, 2011 Report Share Posted April 6, 2011 I remember how someone kept correcting "amendment" to "amendement" for me when I was talking in a chat. Douchetard. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Enervation Posted April 6, 2011 Report Share Posted April 6, 2011 I remember how someone kept correcting "amendment" to "amendement" for me when I was talking in a chat. Douchetard. The thing is though, "amendement" is apparently an entirely correct spelling. However, I was referring to the Amendments found in the Bill of Rights, so its a clear indication that the person correcting me has no idea how it is spelled here in America. Regardless, though... Google begs to differ. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheMightyEthan Posted April 6, 2011 Report Share Posted April 6, 2011 The thing is though, "amendement" is apparently an entirely correct spelling. Not according to Dictionary.com. Based on your Google link it looks like "amendement" is the French spelling. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheMightyEthan Posted April 6, 2011 Report Share Posted April 6, 2011 People who make sweeping statements about what is and isn't, then, when called on it say "I was just posting my opinion blah blah... freedom of speech blah blah...". This bugs the shit out of me too. If you say "the sky is usually red" you're just wrong, and prefacing it with "in my opinion" doesn't make you any less wrong. Just because you say it's your opinion doesn't change that it's actually a factual statement, which you are wrong about. People are taught in grade school that opinions can't be right or wrong, but they never seem to grasp the flipside of it that if what you say is verifiably right or wrong then ipso facto it's not an opinion, regardless of what you call it. So if you say "in my opinion the sky is usually red" then not only are you wrong about the sky being red, you're ALSO wrong about it being an "opinion." To throw some law in here, for the purposes of things like slander/libel/fraud/etc, a statement is an opinion if, by its very nature, it cannot be proved or disproved ("Coke tastes better than Pepsi"), conversely it's a factual statement if it can be proved or disproved, whether it is actually true or not ("Coke has fewer calories than Pepsi". Disclaimer: I don't know whether that's true or not). *Edit* - Also, "freedom of speech" doesn't mean people can't disagree with you, dumbass. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CorgiShinobi Posted April 6, 2011 Report Share Posted April 6, 2011 It's a general pet peeve, and I'm sure one most of you will agree with, but the use of "freedom of speech." In my opinion, too many people use it as a "Get Out of Jail" card much like people will say, "Just Kidding!" Except, with Freedom of Speech, it's like people will blame others for limiting it. Really, people use it as a buzzword. They disregard the "speech" aspect of the right and simply tote around the "freedom" like it'll get them anything they want. "If you don't let me stay up late, you're hindering my Freedom of Speech!" "I want to eat at Burger King guys! You're not allowing me my Freedom of Speech!" "I want to play this game because it's in my Freedom of Speech!" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cyber Rat Posted April 6, 2011 Report Share Posted April 6, 2011 Did I mention how I hate analogies on the Internet? I must have, but let me mention it again. One should be required to have a license to make analogies online. If I ruled the world, my second order of business would be to ban analogies. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheMightyEthan Posted April 6, 2011 Report Share Posted April 6, 2011 "If you don't let me stay up late, you're hindering my Freedom of Speech!" "I want to eat at Burger King guys! You're not allowing me my Freedom of Speech!" "I want to play this game because it's in my Freedom of Speech!" lolwut? @Cyber Rat: Do you mean analogies? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cyber Rat Posted April 6, 2011 Report Share Posted April 6, 2011 @Cyber Rat: Do you mean analogies? Yes, I do. God, I need to stop posting posting dead tired. EDIT: See? I EVEN POST WORDS TWICE! GRRRRR! *leaves the Internet* Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post deanb Posted April 6, 2011 Popular Post Report Share Posted April 6, 2011 Did I mention how I hate analogies on the Internet? I must have, but let me mention it again. One should be required to have a license to make analogies online. If I ruled the world, my second order of business would be to ban analogies. Hating analogies is like hating children. Sure they're annoying but they're a required part of life or nothing would get done. 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P4: Gritty Reboot Posted April 6, 2011 Report Share Posted April 6, 2011 @Cyber Rat: Do you mean analogies? Yes, I do. God, I need to stop posting posting dead tired. EDIT: See? I EVEN POST WORDS TWICE! GRRRRR! *leaves the Internet* Your hatred of analogies is similar to how Hitler hated the Jews and other undesirables. I hate Hitler analogies. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cyber Rat Posted April 6, 2011 Report Share Posted April 6, 2011 Did I mention how I hate analogies on the Internet? I must have, but let me mention it again. One should be required to have a license to make analogies online. If I ruled the world, my second order of business would be to ban analogies. Hating analogies is like hating children. Sure they're annoying but they're a required part of life or nothing would get done. :why: I swear, if I didn't know you were joking, I'd petition a ban. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cyber Rat Posted April 6, 2011 Report Share Posted April 6, 2011 @Cyber Rat: Do you mean analogies? Yes, I do. God, I need to stop posting posting dead tired. EDIT: See? I EVEN POST WORDS TWICE! GRRRRR! *leaves the Internet* Your hatred of analogies is similar to how Hitler hated the Jews and other undesirables. I hate Hitler analogies. I HATE YOU ALL! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CyberToyger Posted April 6, 2011 Report Share Posted April 6, 2011 I've fallen for that pic, the same damn pic, twice XD 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mercurial Posted April 6, 2011 Report Share Posted April 6, 2011 (edited) Oh I hate pics like that. Edited April 7, 2011 by Hakidia Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Enervation Posted April 7, 2011 Report Share Posted April 7, 2011 I've fallen for that pic, the same damn pic, twice XD Doesn't trick me. My highlight shows up in grey, not blue. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrainHurtBoy...2 Posted April 7, 2011 Report Share Posted April 7, 2011 Honestly, I just wish every website would default all links to 'open in new tab'. I'm really growing tired of the right-click followed by a mouse twitch. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Enervation Posted April 7, 2011 Report Share Posted April 7, 2011 Honestly, I just wish every website would default all links to 'open in new tab'. I'm really growing tired of the right-click followed by a mouse twitch. I think that's a browser-side thing. I know Chrome has an option to open every new link in either a new tab or a new window, or open within the current window - all as options, of course. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheMightyEthan Posted April 7, 2011 Report Share Posted April 7, 2011 Honestly, I just wish every website would default all links to 'open in new tab'. I'm really growing tired of the right-click followed by a mouse twitch. Middle-click. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strangelove Posted April 7, 2011 Author Report Share Posted April 7, 2011 You can just click with the wheel button. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CorgiShinobi Posted April 7, 2011 Report Share Posted April 7, 2011 "If you don't let me stay up late, you're hindering my Freedom of Speech!" "I want to eat at Burger King guys! You're not allowing me my Freedom of Speech!" "I want to play this game because it's in my Freedom of Speech!" lolwut? For the life of me I couldn't remember the exact quotes, but I've heard (and read) some ridiculous uses of "Freedom of Speech." Once some kid in high school tried to justify talking during a teacher's lecture as Freedom of Speech, but again, I can't remember it all other than, "No, you didn't just say that..." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Enervation Posted April 7, 2011 Report Share Posted April 7, 2011 How would one counter the argument of "Freedom of Speech" in a situation like a lecture, then? Personally, I would probably say that on government property (ie. the high school, assuming it its a public school) any rights they may have will be forfeit since they are currently government property, which allows the government the right to enforce the rules they have in place on said property. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CorgiShinobi Posted April 7, 2011 Report Share Posted April 7, 2011 How would one counter the argument of "Freedom of Speech" in a situation like a lecture, then? Personally, I would probably say that on government property (ie. the high school, assuming it its a public school) any rights they may have will be forfeit since they are currently government property, which allows the government the right to enforce the rules they have in place on said property. If I were the teacher, and I knew it was a private conversation, I would tell the kid to come up and share his speech with the rest of the class. After all, if you're going to invoke such liberties, it must be a discussion vital to everyone else. So yeah, kinda like reading a note in front of class. Then again, maybe everyone would be interested in knowing what he's gonna do with his girl that night. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thursday Next Posted April 7, 2011 Report Share Posted April 7, 2011 How would one counter the argument of "Freedom of Speech" in a situation like a lecture, then? Personally, I would probably say that on government property (ie. the high school, assuming it its a public school) any rights they may have will be forfeit since they are currently government property, which allows the government the right to enforce the rules they have in place on said property. You kick them out of the class. Freedom to say what you want is not the same as being free from the consequences of what you say. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheMightyEthan Posted April 7, 2011 Report Share Posted April 7, 2011 How would one counter the argument of "Freedom of Speech" in a situation like a lecture, then? Personally, I would probably say that on government property (ie. the high school, assuming it its a public school) any rights they may have will be forfeit since they are currently government property, which allows the government the right to enforce the rules they have in place on said property. First off, everything I'm about to say assumes that the kid is located in the U.S. Your right to free speech is actually stronger on government property than it is on private property, because the first amendment is a prohibition on government limitations on speech. That said, it's still subject to reasonable time, place, and manner restrictions, and telling a kid not to talk during class/lecture is a reasonable time/place/manner restriction. Also, not all speech (really "expression", it's not limited to "speech") is equally protected, there's a continuum with political/religious expression being the most protected, and criminal expression being the least/not-at-all protected (fraud, incitement to violence, etc), with other stuff falling in the middle. If what he's saying isn't protected then "freedom of speech" isn't a defense to the teacher telling him to shut the fuck up, and even if it is protected it's still not a defense because it can be subject to reasonable time/place/manner restrictions, they just can't block the message altogether/unreasonably. A school is intended to facilitate learning, and restrictions on speech that would interfere with that purpose are generally going to be "reasonable." I find constitutional law, especially the first amendment, quite interesting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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