toxicitizen Posted October 3, 2011 Report Share Posted October 3, 2011 On 10/3/2011 at 1:29 PM, Yantelope said: Reveal hidden contents Deus Ex 2 assumed that JC Denton merged with Helios so screw you if you went another direction. Well, if you picked any other ending than that, you're an idiot! But seriously, didn't Invisible War take elements from all four of Deus Ex's endings and merged them all into its plot? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deanb Posted October 3, 2011 Author Report Share Posted October 3, 2011 On 10/3/2011 at 1:29 PM, Yantelope said: All in all it's a good game but I feel like its ties to the original story were very very loose. Then again I still can't keep everything straight in my head from the first game. The other problem with 4 endings is that the sequel is going to have to assume one of them so it really loses the point. Reveal hidden contents Deus Ex 2 assumed that JC Denton merged with Helios so screw you if you went another direction. All four of them fit. And it was always a "may" when describing the outcomes.: Reveal hidden contents Sarif - augmentation research is allowed to go on uninhibited and 25 years down the line Nano-Augs are created. Taggart - Restrictions on R&D are brought in, it slows down, but Megan is working on Nano-Augs with Illuminati/M12 n they're not exactly restricted. Darrow - The truth is revealed, Illuminati are shunned, but given it's mainly M12 in next one, doesn't matter much. Mech Augs are shunned. Gunther doesn't like this. Jensen - well nothing. I think at first it wasn't meant to have any choices, hence the rather weak "push 4 buttons" thing. They don't really diverge too much either, probably to keep in line with the fact they can't have an ending where Augmentations are stopped completely. Ad while I've not played IW, I was under the impression that it assumed all the endings were true. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yantelope Posted October 3, 2011 Report Share Posted October 3, 2011 (edited) Reveal hidden contents If I remember correctly the 4 endings of the original were pretty exclusive. One was shut down helios and send the world into a new dark age but that would create freedom from augs and computers and such. The opposite being merge with helios and you discover at the very end of Invisible War, JC Denton had tried to merge with helios but it wasn't fully complete or something like that. That being said the 4 endings are rather weak. Seems a little pointless to me. from wiki, the three endings to the original Deus Ex. Pretty obvious that the only one that happens is the third. Reveal hidden contents Tong seeks to plunge the world into a second Dark Age by destroying the global communications hub and preventing anyone from taking control of the world.[34] Everett offers Denton the chance to bring the Illuminati back to power by killing Bob Page and using the technology of Area 51 to rule the world with an invisible hand.[35] Helios wishes to merge with Denton and rule the world as a benevolent dictator with infinite knowledge and reason Reveal hidden contents EDIT: Well, they apparently said it was all three that caused the 3rd game but really it's more like the third choice was made by Denton but it didn't exactly work as planned. Sounds like marketing spin to me. http://www.gamespot.com/pc/rpg/deusexinvisiblewar/preview_6074704.html Edited October 3, 2011 by Yantelope Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deanb Posted October 4, 2011 Author Report Share Posted October 4, 2011 We mare or may not have written shy of 9000 words on Deus Ex: Human Revolution http://pressxordie.com/2011/10/04/roundtable-deus-ex-human-revolution/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DocSeuss Posted October 4, 2011 Report Share Posted October 4, 2011 Just to address some comments near the top of the page: as I played the game, the more I found myself slipping into the role of Adam's character, and the more I found myself being willing to kill people. By the end, I was a one-man army of slaughterific proportions. I only let civilians live. Anyone with a gun died, and the more cruel their deaths, the better I felt. I actually enjoyed the game MORE when I did that than when I used stealth. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luftwaffles Posted October 6, 2011 Report Share Posted October 6, 2011 And oh man, that ending. Spoilers incoming. Reveal hidden contents I didn't mind the "pick a button" ending nearly as much as I thought I would, but I ended up choosing to blow up the entire thing just because I had already run down that hallway and didn't really feel like running back to press any of the other buttons. Plus, seeing how I killed Sarif, Darrow, and Taggart when I found them earlier I didn't really feel like siding with one, because they were all dead... Quicksaved right before so I could see all the endings, though. Reveal hidden contents I also had way more trouble with the first 2 boss battles than the last 2. I only had to restart the Namir fight once, and I didn't die at all during the final encounter with the robots. I definitely don't regret buying the typhoon and dermal armor later in the game, but I still felt like the last 2 battles were much easier than the first 2, with or without augs that made them easier. Either way, though, probably my favorite game of 2011. I liked Portal 2 a lot as well, but this felt a lot newer and fresh than Portal 2. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vargras Posted October 18, 2011 Report Share Posted October 18, 2011 Missing Link DLC is out. It's gotten very good reviews so far, clocks in at over 5 hours long (which is pretty damn long for DLC content), and the best part? The boss fights don't suck. That's right, you can ACTUALLY fight the boss in Missing Link however you want. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hot Heart Posted November 6, 2011 Report Share Posted November 6, 2011 http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2011-11-04-deus-ex-human-revolution-sells-2-18-million Sold quite a bit more in Europe than NA. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deanb Posted November 6, 2011 Author Report Share Posted November 6, 2011 We do have about 200million more people. And it was a decent PC version which will have helped in Europe. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hot Heart Posted November 6, 2011 Report Share Posted November 6, 2011 Yeah, I'm not especially surprised. It's promising news though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SomTervo Posted November 7, 2011 Report Share Posted November 7, 2011 On 10/6/2011 at 3:58 PM, Sporkwaffles said: just because I had already run down that hallway and didn't really feel like running back I lol'd. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toxicitizen Posted February 27, 2013 Report Share Posted February 27, 2013 http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=516444 So Square Enix have filed a trademark for Deus Ex: Human Defiance. Could be a sequel or whatever else (wasn't a movie project announced not too long ago?). I really hope it's a game. Human Revolution got almost everything right and I would love to see Eidos Montreal expand on it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Waldorf and Statler Posted February 27, 2013 Report Share Posted February 27, 2013 The ending sequence of HR already hinted at stuff leading into the first game. I still think that Jensen's story has more than enough to tell another game so I'll be looking forward to this if it indeed is a sequel. Heck to be completely honest I even hope they eventually remake/retell Deus Ex and Deus Ex 2. I'd love to play modern interpretations of those games. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toxicitizen Posted February 27, 2013 Report Share Posted February 27, 2013 But Reveal hidden contents Jensen died! Seriously, though. The problem with a direct sequel is the same one that Invisible War faced: which ending is canon? IW was too indecisive and just included elements of all three, which undermines the whole point of player choice. I'm not sure what I'd prefer, to be honest. All that comes to mind is Jensen's origins. Human Revolution vaguely hinted that he was special but never really expanded on it. I'd love for that to be addressed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Waldorf and Statler Posted February 27, 2013 Report Share Posted February 27, 2013 I don't need a prequel to a prequel. I need a sequel to the prequel that takes place before the first title (inorite?) And I don't know about you but... Reveal hidden contents 3 of the 4 or so possible endings don't have Jensen dying and the "red/green/blue" ending of HR wasn't exactly popular with people so I don't think many will care if they decide to go with Jensen being alive but after you mentioned IW i got reminded that trying to find a middle-ground might end up being shitty so maybe it IS best to do a new story. Ugh. This is my problem with multiple choice endings. A character as awesome as Jensen may not get another game because of a design choice nobody really liked anyways (for the most part) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toxicitizen Posted February 27, 2013 Report Share Posted February 27, 2013 Oh, when I said explore Jensen's origins I didn't mean prequel. I meant more like Jensen looking into it a bit more. Obviously, that's not enough meat for an entire game. Just have it be more than a short side-quest. When those guys in suits started showing up in HR, I started getting excited because it gave a strong conspiracy vibe like the original. But once that quest ended, it was never brought up again. Which made me sad. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deanb Posted March 31, 2013 Author Report Share Posted March 31, 2013 https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=483323705054316&set=a.483323668387653.1073741826.119442141442476&type=1 It's to be unveiled tomorrow. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NeoStarr Posted March 31, 2013 Report Share Posted March 31, 2013 April 1st. The worst day to announce your game. This better be real, I nearly had a heart attack when I saw that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hot Heart Posted March 31, 2013 Report Share Posted March 31, 2013 It's not a game, it's the film, I believe. I'm not sure how the dev team works, but I think a new Thief game is their next project. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deanb Posted March 31, 2013 Author Report Share Posted March 31, 2013 "Will Kirkham: Better be a game and not a movie""Deus Ex: It's a game!" It's the second comment on their post. Hooray for the new slightly-nested comments system FB has for Pages I guess. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hot Heart Posted March 31, 2013 Report Share Posted March 31, 2013 That wasn't there when I first looked at the link (when you first posted it). Good news though! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toxicitizen Posted March 31, 2013 Report Share Posted March 31, 2013 (edited) On 3/31/2013 at 9:41 PM, Hot Heart said: It's not a game, it's the film, I believe. I'm not sure how the dev team works, but I think a new Thief game is their next project. I'm pretty sure Thief has been in development since before Human Revolution came out. They probably just added resources and shifted focus to it after HR shipped. It would be awesome if it turns out to actually be a game. But I'm a bit skeptical considering this is kind of a weird, low-profile way of announcing. Edited March 31, 2013 by FLD Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deanb Posted March 31, 2013 Author Report Share Posted March 31, 2013 It was there when I first posted the link. That's why I knew to quote it because it was the second comment that was there when I opened the link when Eidos posted it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hot Heart Posted March 31, 2013 Report Share Posted March 31, 2013 Ah, well I must have skimmed over that since it was all nested. All I saw was someone posting a link about that being the film and assumed there wouldn't be anything on a new game. So I'm happy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hot Heart Posted April 1, 2013 Report Share Posted April 1, 2013 Game looks great. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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